Also, so lame the author doesn't mention AMD forcing Intel increasing mainstream core count. Intel milked the market with 4 core rehashes for 10 years. Author casually mentions the increase like Intel is being kind and generous for no reason.
Why would they talk about AMD in a post specifically about pricing and availability of the "new" Intel chips? It's not like AMD weren't mentioned and Ryzen compared to these chips in the actual review article.
This is 100% a paper launch to try and stop people from buying AMD systems for a while.
Intel is killing the whole bottom half of its Skylake X line and completely killing Kaby Lake as well.
A buyer would simply be crazy or extremely unknowledgeable to buy ANY Kaby Lake or older Intel platform today , because these are dead platforms with no upgrade path.
But the Coffee Lake paper launch will create a halo effect and fool the ordinary PC buyiers into going Intel despite not having the slightest chance of installing any future Coffee Lake gaming chip into any current motherboard.
Intel is also slowing down AMD's sales inertia.
What AMD needs to is to leak the future 12nm lineup to show people that going Ryzen is the right choice, bringing in a platform with a long future and upgrade paths to chips that will surpass Coffee Lake soon.
We understand what Anton did here and it is very, very much apreciated.
Basically Anandtech is playing nice with Intel's PR, but also tells us in a newer article that this IS a paper launch.
Er, Skylake-X has one processor which has been equalled by Coffee Lake (the 7800X) but which has quad channel RAM as well as more than 50% more PCIe lanes on the CPU - so depending on your workload it's not exactly "killed off", unless you also want to claim that it's "killed off" Ryzen 1700X-1800X which are broadly performance comparable.
Everything above that has more cores and threads than anything in Coffee Lake, so not exactly "killed off" either.
It has killed off Kaby Lake-X - is that what you meant?
Your logic is also broken. You start by asserting that this is a paper launch to stop people buying AMD - but go on to talk about the fact that it's "killed" Kaby Lake which is an Intel platform.
So which is it? Is it designed to stop people buying Intel or AMD?
"Your logic is also broken. You start by asserting that this is a paper launch to stop people buying AMD - but go on to talk about the fact that it's "killed" Kaby Lake which is an Intel platform.
So which is it? Is it designed to stop people buying Intel or AMD?"
? Obviously BOTH he isn't limited to ONE choice it can stop AMD and also screw over the Intel Kaby lake chips
...except it doesn't screw over the Kaby Lake chips as discussed? The Kaby Lake-X ones are largely irrelevant now but the rest of the product range has precisely as much value as it ever did.
Give it a few months for the cfl platform to mature then you can reasonably say that it's superceded kbl but at the moment the assertions he's making are ridiculous.
(Oh and the problem in his logic is that he claims it's 100% for one thing then chooses to spend his time talking about something completely different. YMMV but that's just weird and fanboyish to me)
It's not impossible to get one in Germany. Alles Technik have shipped out 8700Ks already, Computeruniverse have taken orders for 8700K stock due in on October 9th, and MindFactory have confirmed they have a shipment of 8700Ks incoming.
Although it's strange how Amazon.de doesn't seem to have anything! And Alternate are claiming a shipping date of December..!
Well, of course the locked CPUs are available: no one wants them. There's no mainstream motherboards available until next year. No one is going to buy a Z370 motherboard for a CPU that can't be overclocked.
That’s only partially true. You can still mildly overclock a non-K part, just not via multiplier. But your point stands. Nobody is going to cheap out on a cpu when forced to buy a Z series board. That’s thy the i3 is collecting dust everywhere. If it could be paired with a $80 motherboard. It would be flying off the shelf.
If that mild overclock means maintaining all core turbo at 4.6 I'm fine with that being much better in the efficiency curve (much easier to cool as well) and more guaranteed stability.
You need a z370 as well to use higher than stock memory which at least for me is more impact in certain applications that I have performance concerns with than that 5ghz overclock.
It seems Newegg offers over 50 z370 chip boards, starting at $120. I was also amazed at the incredibly wide range of ram available from Gskill at decent speeds, i.e., 4x8 3400 for $330. I find it amazing that there are over 50 boards available with no cpu supply. Also, Newegg did not show a mobo z370 chip option, but had a LGA 1151 (300 Series) option which produced 53 z370 offerings. I was surprised to learn the Z370 boards are only compatible with 8th Gen 1151 chips
This suggests that the top of the line 8700K is very popular right now. Probably part of that is that a lot of the people who would be interested in any of the lower priced parts are more cost sensitive and thus more inclined to wait a few weeks for prices to fall to the MSRP values.
It also suggests that there is interest in the multiplier locked parts, but not so much in the 4 core parts. These are competing directly with the 4 core Kaby Lake products, and this may be where the higher cost of Coffee Lake motherboards is having the largest impact on demand.
This is the kind of stuff that makes me dislike this place more and more. Sure be intel biased i dont care, but at least bring some analysis to the table instead of vomiting Intel PR slides with zero thoughts going into what is written. You need to be really bad at your job to ignore, in an article supposedly analyzing product stocks, the fact that there is NO H370 and so it makes ZERO sense to buy a locked chip with an overclocking board. It's just so blatant that they ignored that fact. They did the same in the coffee lake review. It's just low effort stuff that i'd expect from a low wage intern from india or maybe even a blog bot. There used to be a time this place had actual reports and analysis, sad that it doesn't anymore. I can read the Intel PR slides without your help thank you.
The low availability made me think the CPU is hot and everyone want it, but that turned out to be due to extremely low stocks. I can see from comments here and there on retailers' websites that people are jumping to AMD's wagon just for the availability!!
It really doesn't strike me as a paper launch. You can still buy an 8600k. There's no real indication that Coffee Lake *yields* are bad; it's 14nm fundamentally, and Intel should have excellent yields there.
I think that the 8700k is just going to be in huge demand; it's Intel's best chip as a product, by far, since Sandy Bridge. Maybe fully enabled products are just hard to come by, but I think it's just launch demand outstripping supply, which has happened with basically every hardware launch ever.
I agree about it probably being demand driven. It's the first wow level upgrade since sandy bridge. I went from a i7-920 to a i7-4790k 2 years ago. It wasn't a huge upgrade, and was more driven by reliability concerns than anything else.
An 8700k would probably be a bigger upgrade than I did last time. I'm mostly passing for now less because my current system's still new (I probably could get enough back parting it out on fleabay) than because I want a few pending IO upgrades first. PCIe4 (or 5) and an ~50/50 mix of USB A and C ports.
Waiting will also give me a chance to see how Intel's upcoming Icelake architecture stacks up against AMDs Zen 2 or Zen 3. Lower clock rates and consequently single threaded perf is Zen's current biggest weakness. I'm hoping that addressing this is part of the low hanging fruit that AMD said is present to improve Zen's performance.
I don't think so, pal. i7-4790k was a huge improvement from i7-920, about 80% performance wise. But i7-8700k is only about 30% faster than the i7-4790k.
Yields are probably good... but it isn't guaranteed to have the same yields. First of all, they tweaked the node. But more importantly it's a new die, with more cores. So again, I'm sure the yields are fine, but excellent yields aren't automatically guaranteed. Only Intel knows just how good they are. Same as SL and KBL? Who knows.
But yeah, initial rollout demand is responsible for the shortages.
Whilst his assertion that all the UK exports is a few cars is absolutely wrong, it is a close second to the #1 export which is gold. As far as GDP, the USA exports a good bit more.
If he's in shock by the 20% tax, I think he'd fall over if he read thru the income tax brackets LOL.
Go and check your figures again. I'm not talking about total exports, I'm talking about exported *goods*. AKA manufacturing, aka "stuff the UK makes". Yes, the US has a lot more resources which they export but in terms of actual manufacturing volume per capita the UK is well ahead.
Total taxes in most of the developed world are much higher than in the US; it's the flip side of their govts paying for expensive things like healthcare and college education instead of making us do it out of pocket.
Don't feel so sure it could never happen here though. Every few years someone floats a plan to reform US taxes by replacing a significant chunk of either income or corporate taxes (which you pay every time you buy something since they're priced into what the seller charges) with a national sales tax.
You can add Indian online stores Primeabgb and Mdcomputers on the list. Only locked processors are available. Mdcomputers will ship after 12th October. Prices include 18% taxes, so they are close to US prices. i3 8100 is ₹9696, i5 8400 ₹14,799 and i7 8700 is ₹25,006. Although unlocked ones are also listed on Primeabgb, no word about price and availability.
The launch in the UK is a joke. No 8600K or 8700K available until November except for the pre-binned parts from OCuk which aren't worth it for the money.
Choosing Proshop as a Finnish data point is odd: by looking at Alexa it is a site that opened during summer so it a very minor player in a small market. It would make much more sense to use Jimm's or Verkkokauppa.com as these are fully Finnish and are also notable players on the Finnish computer sales market. Jimm's is specialized to tech, Verkkokauppa has become more general ecommerce site.
Therefore to fill the gaps...
8700K: Not Listed @ Verkkokauppa.com ETA unknown / +25 coming @ Jimm's
8700: 3 In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com ETA 10/10 / 5 coming @ Jimm's
8600K ETA 10/23 - 10/30 @ Verkkokauppa.com ETA unknown / +25 coming @ Jimm's
8400: 12 In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com ETA unknown / 3 coming @ Jimm's
8350K: In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com In Stock @ Jimm's
8100: In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com In Stock @ Jimm's
There are other companies that sell tech in notable quantity (Gigantti, Power), but these are multinational players who put more effort on traditional stores, don't have any of the enthusiast models listed and are less open when it comes to data in general, making them poor choices for reflecting the market in Finland.
"physical core count stalled at two for entry-level and at four in case of higher-end parts from 2006 to 2017. With the launch of Ryzen, AMD changed that singlehandedly and remarkably and should be rewarded by our purchases".
The core count wasn't really stalled at that level, more were available to those who needed (see, e.g. Xeon and Opteron).
AMD did light some fire under Intel in the consumer space now though, perhaps we'll see some progress on multithreaded games that will use all the cores you throw at 'em. Fingers crossed.
And this is not over yet, both AMD and Intel have a lot more coming in the Spring. Exciting times again for a change.
Looks like a paper launch. Roadmap had Q1 2018 release, limited stock/availability everywhere for the popular skus. Looks like AMD forced Intel's hand with this one.
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Gothmoth - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
it´s a paper launch.here in germany it is impossible to get an i7.
only i3 and some i5 are available.
milkywayer - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
Also, so lame the author doesn't mention AMD forcing Intel increasing mainstream core count. Intel milked the market with 4 core rehashes for 10 years. Author casually mentions the increase like Intel is being kind and generous for no reason.mkaibear - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
Why would they talk about AMD in a post specifically about pricing and availability of the "new" Intel chips? It's not like AMD weren't mentioned and Ryzen compared to these chips in the actual review article.IGTrading - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
This is 100% a paper launch to try and stop people from buying AMD systems for a while.Intel is killing the whole bottom half of its Skylake X line and completely killing Kaby Lake as well.
A buyer would simply be crazy or extremely unknowledgeable to buy ANY Kaby Lake or older Intel platform today , because these are dead platforms with no upgrade path.
But the Coffee Lake paper launch will create a halo effect and fool the ordinary PC buyiers into going Intel despite not having the slightest chance of installing any future Coffee Lake gaming chip into any current motherboard.
Intel is also slowing down AMD's sales inertia.
What AMD needs to is to leak the future 12nm lineup to show people that going Ryzen is the right choice, bringing in a platform with a long future and upgrade paths to chips that will surpass Coffee Lake soon.
We understand what Anton did here and it is very, very much apreciated.
Basically Anandtech is playing nice with Intel's PR, but also tells us in a newer article that this IS a paper launch.
mkaibear - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
Er, Skylake-X has one processor which has been equalled by Coffee Lake (the 7800X) but which has quad channel RAM as well as more than 50% more PCIe lanes on the CPU - so depending on your workload it's not exactly "killed off", unless you also want to claim that it's "killed off" Ryzen 1700X-1800X which are broadly performance comparable.Everything above that has more cores and threads than anything in Coffee Lake, so not exactly "killed off" either.
It has killed off Kaby Lake-X - is that what you meant?
Your logic is also broken. You start by asserting that this is a paper launch to stop people buying AMD - but go on to talk about the fact that it's "killed" Kaby Lake which is an Intel platform.
So which is it? Is it designed to stop people buying Intel or AMD?
piiman - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
"Your logic is also broken. You start by asserting that this is a paper launch to stop people buying AMD - but go on to talk about the fact that it's "killed" Kaby Lake which is an Intel platform.So which is it? Is it designed to stop people buying Intel or AMD?"
? Obviously BOTH he isn't limited to ONE choice it can stop AMD and also screw over the Intel Kaby lake chips
mkaibear - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
...except it doesn't screw over the Kaby Lake chips as discussed? The Kaby Lake-X ones are largely irrelevant now but the rest of the product range has precisely as much value as it ever did.Give it a few months for the cfl platform to mature then you can reasonably say that it's superceded kbl but at the moment the assertions he's making are ridiculous.
(Oh and the problem in his logic is that he claims it's 100% for one thing then chooses to spend his time talking about something completely different. YMMV but that's just weird and fanboyish to me)
PenguinJim - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
It's not impossible to get one in Germany. Alles Technik have shipped out 8700Ks already, Computeruniverse have taken orders for 8700K stock due in on October 9th, and MindFactory have confirmed they have a shipment of 8700Ks incoming.Although it's strange how Amazon.de doesn't seem to have anything! And Alternate are claiming a shipping date of December..!
nathanddrews - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
In the historical launch price chart, a couple corrections:1. i7-5775C for $366
2. i5-7600K for $242
lefty2 - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
Well, of course the locked CPUs are available: no one wants them. There's no mainstream motherboards available until next year. No one is going to buy a Z370 motherboard for a CPU that can't be overclocked.Samus - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
That’s only partially true. You can still mildly overclock a non-K part, just not via multiplier. But your point stands. Nobody is going to cheap out on a cpu when forced to buy a Z series board. That’s thy the i3 is collecting dust everywhere. If it could be paired with a $80 motherboard. It would be flying off the shelf.limitedaccess - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
If that mild overclock means maintaining all core turbo at 4.6 I'm fine with that being much better in the efficiency curve (much easier to cool as well) and more guaranteed stability.You need a z370 as well to use higher than stock memory which at least for me is more impact in certain applications that I have performance concerns with than that 5ghz overclock.
bill_mt - Monday, October 9, 2017 - link
It seems Newegg offers over 50 z370 chip boards, starting at $120. I was also amazed at the incredibly wide range of ram available from Gskill at decent speeds, i.e., 4x8 3400 for $330. I find it amazing that there are over 50 boards available with no cpu supply. Also, Newegg did not show a mobo z370 chip option, but had a LGA 1151 (300 Series) option which produced 53 z370 offerings. I was surprised to learn the Z370 boards are only compatible with 8th Gen 1151 chips8steve8 - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
meh, i will buy z370 and a K CPU and will never overclock it. At stock it is still faster than 7700k and 7700.limitedaccess - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
On paper the i7-8700 and 8700k would be the same stock for stock as they have the same all core turbo of 4.3ghz.sonny73n - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
Funny you said you'll never overclock this gen CPU when you're comparing it to the previous gen.KAlmquist - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
shopblt.com shows the following numbers for pending orders, which gives us some indication of demand:8700K: 4779
8700: 1425
8600K: 1816
8400: 1740
8350K: 1
8100: 1 in stock
This suggests that the top of the line 8700K is very popular right now. Probably part of that is that a lot of the people who would be interested in any of the lower priced parts are more cost sensitive and thus more inclined to wait a few weeks for prices to fall to the MSRP values.
It also suggests that there is interest in the multiplier locked parts, but not so much in the 4 core parts. These are competing directly with the 4 core Kaby Lake products, and this may be where the higher cost of Coffee Lake motherboards is having the largest impact on demand.
putneg - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link
This is the kind of stuff that makes me dislike this place more and more. Sure be intel biased i dont care, but at least bring some analysis to the table instead of vomiting Intel PR slides with zero thoughts going into what is written. You need to be really bad at your job to ignore, in an article supposedly analyzing product stocks, the fact that there is NO H370 and so it makes ZERO sense to buy a locked chip with an overclocking board. It's just so blatant that they ignored that fact. They did the same in the coffee lake review. It's just low effort stuff that i'd expect from a low wage intern from india or maybe even a blog bot. There used to be a time this place had actual reports and analysis, sad that it doesn't anymore. I can read the Intel PR slides without your help thank you.Mo3tasm - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
The low availability made me think the CPU is hot and everyone want it, but that turned out to be due to extremely low stocks. I can see from comments here and there on retailers' websites that people are jumping to AMD's wagon just for the availability!!Drumsticks - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
It really doesn't strike me as a paper launch. You can still buy an 8600k. There's no real indication that Coffee Lake *yields* are bad; it's 14nm fundamentally, and Intel should have excellent yields there.I think that the 8700k is just going to be in huge demand; it's Intel's best chip as a product, by far, since Sandy Bridge. Maybe fully enabled products are just hard to come by, but I think it's just launch demand outstripping supply, which has happened with basically every hardware launch ever.
Drumsticks - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
As a reminder, what happened with:- Vega
- GTX 1080 Ti
- Ryzen 7
At launch?
DrKlahn - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
I got my R7 the week of the launch with no fuss. Motherboard availability was spotty but no price gouging or anything. Been running strong ever since.Vega on the other hand has been plagued with issues and still is. I never tracked the 1080Ti so no comment there.
Communism - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
It's AMD kicking it's shill farms into overdrive.They are even going as low as to unleash their shill farm into the amazon reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Co...
piiman - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
lol whateverDanNeely - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
I agree about it probably being demand driven. It's the first wow level upgrade since sandy bridge. I went from a i7-920 to a i7-4790k 2 years ago. It wasn't a huge upgrade, and was more driven by reliability concerns than anything else.An 8700k would probably be a bigger upgrade than I did last time. I'm mostly passing for now less because my current system's still new (I probably could get enough back parting it out on fleabay) than because I want a few pending IO upgrades first. PCIe4 (or 5) and an ~50/50 mix of USB A and C ports.
Waiting will also give me a chance to see how Intel's upcoming Icelake architecture stacks up against AMDs Zen 2 or Zen 3. Lower clock rates and consequently single threaded perf is Zen's current biggest weakness. I'm hoping that addressing this is part of the low hanging fruit that AMD said is present to improve Zen's performance.
sonny73n - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
I don't think so, pal. i7-4790k was a huge improvement from i7-920, about 80% performance wise. But i7-8700k is only about 30% faster than the i7-4790k.jospoortvliet - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
On video encoding it will easily be >50-60% faster...Alexvrb - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
Yields are probably good... but it isn't guaranteed to have the same yields. First of all, they tweaked the node. But more importantly it's a new die, with more cores. So again, I'm sure the yields are fine, but excellent yields aren't automatically guaranteed. Only Intel knows just how good they are. Same as SL and KBL? Who knows.But yeah, initial rollout demand is responsible for the shortages.
piiman - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
"You can still buy an 8600k."Where?
rookie aka gamer - Monday, October 9, 2017 - link
From gaga land its available :P he knows the address ask him? U might get the info.alistair.brogan - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
A quick note for Canadians, the website only version of NCIX (owned by the same company) had all the CPUs for a much lower price.https://www.directcanada.com/search/?kw=intel%208t...
I picked up a 8600k for $305 Canadian. They still have i3 and 8400's available.
alistair.brogan - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
ok it was there a few hours ago and now removed, I guess they want to reserve those for NCIX nowQasar - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
Memory express has them listed as well.. but not in stock ...BedfordTim - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
Don't forget UK prices include tax at 20% and so should not be directly compared with US prices which are quoted without sales tax.sonny73n - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
Sales tax in UK are 20%, are you kidding? ...But UK don't make anything besides a few cars.mkaibear - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
USA: 323m people, exported goods $1.47tnUK: 65m people, exported goods $.41tn
Looks like we manufacture more, relatively, than the US, mate... ;-)
Also yes, 20% on basically everything which funds things like universal healthcare. I'm quite happy with that bargain ;-)
Manch - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
Simple google search says otherwise mate.GBR is $41.8K GDP PER CAPITA
25TH OF 184 nations
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/
USA is $56.1KGDP PER CAPITA
12TH OF 184 nations
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/usa/
Whilst his assertion that all the UK exports is a few cars is absolutely wrong, it is a close second to the #1 export which is gold. As far as GDP, the USA exports a good bit more.
If he's in shock by the 20% tax, I think he'd fall over if he read thru the income tax brackets LOL.
mkaibear - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
Go and check your figures again. I'm not talking about total exports, I'm talking about exported *goods*. AKA manufacturing, aka "stuff the UK makes". Yes, the US has a lot more resources which they export but in terms of actual manufacturing volume per capita the UK is well ahead.DanNeely - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
Total taxes in most of the developed world are much higher than in the US; it's the flip side of their govts paying for expensive things like healthcare and college education instead of making us do it out of pocket.Don't feel so sure it could never happen here though. Every few years someone floats a plan to reform US taxes by replacing a significant chunk of either income or corporate taxes (which you pay every time you buy something since they're priced into what the seller charges) with a national sales tax.
HollyDOL - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
Around here, preorder 8700K is ~533USD (no pre-binned, plain one) :-/peevee - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
You made a mistake in the price-per-core table:i7-7800X 6/12 3.5 GHz $383 $72
383/6=63.8, not 72
t.s - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
And at i5 8400,Scan U.K. £172 $132 In Stock
not $132, but $255
jaggajatt - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link
You can add Indian online stores Primeabgb and Mdcomputers on the list. Only locked processors are available. Mdcomputers will ship after 12th October. Prices include 18% taxes, so they are close to US prices. i3 8100 is ₹9696, i5 8400 ₹14,799 and i7 8700 is ₹25,006. Although unlocked ones are also listed on Primeabgb, no word about price and availability.lset - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
The launch in the UK is a joke. No 8600K or 8700K available until November except for the pre-binned parts from OCuk which aren't worth it for the money.Merri - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
Choosing Proshop as a Finnish data point is odd: by looking at Alexa it is a site that opened during summer so it a very minor player in a small market. It would make much more sense to use Jimm's or Verkkokauppa.com as these are fully Finnish and are also notable players on the Finnish computer sales market. Jimm's is specialized to tech, Verkkokauppa has become more general ecommerce site.Therefore to fill the gaps...
8700K:
Not Listed @ Verkkokauppa.com
ETA unknown / +25 coming @ Jimm's
8700:
3 In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com
ETA 10/10 / 5 coming @ Jimm's
8600K
ETA 10/23 - 10/30 @ Verkkokauppa.com
ETA unknown / +25 coming @ Jimm's
8400:
12 In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com
ETA unknown / 3 coming @ Jimm's
8350K:
In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com
In Stock @ Jimm's
8100:
In Stock @ Verkkokauppa.com
In Stock @ Jimm's
There are other companies that sell tech in notable quantity (Gigantti, Power), but these are multinational players who put more effort on traditional stores, don't have any of the enthusiast models listed and are less open when it comes to data in general, making them poor choices for reflecting the market in Finland.
Merri - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link
Fix: 8700K is listed on Verkkokauppa.com with same ETA as 8600K.Zandros - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
Proshop has been around a while on the Scandinavian market, but I’m not sure how well established they are in Finland.In Sweden, I believe enthusiasts are more likely to use webhallen.com or inet.se rather than Misco. Komplett is a fine data point though.
Arbie - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
"physical core count stalled at two for entry-level and at four in case of higher-end parts from 2006 to 2017. With the launch of Ryzen, AMD changed that singlehandedly and remarkably and should be rewarded by our purchases".Fixed that for you.
RealBeast - Sunday, October 8, 2017 - link
The core count wasn't really stalled at that level, more were available to those who needed (see, e.g. Xeon and Opteron).AMD did light some fire under Intel in the consumer space now though, perhaps we'll see some progress on multithreaded games that will use all the cores you throw at 'em. Fingers crossed.
And this is not over yet, both AMD and Intel have a lot more coming in the Spring. Exciting times again for a change.
putneg - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link
I think Intel fixed that for him...Gnomer87 - Monday, October 9, 2017 - link
Can't wait to replace my first gen i5.She served me well, still does, but now it's time for the long sleep. Sad really.
Here in Norway the supply appears to be about 0. K models appear to be completely unobtainable at the present.
kooya - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 - link
Looks like a paper launch. Roadmap had Q1 2018 release, limited stock/availability everywhere for the popular skus. Looks like AMD forced Intel's hand with this one.merpy - Friday, October 13, 2017 - link
I pre-ordered the 8700k from Scan UK for £360 and they sent me an email stating that their ETA for dispatch is November 1st.Pyro411 - Thursday, October 19, 2017 - link
Updated North American Links for the i7-8700KCDW $429.99 <No Stock>
https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Intel-Core-i7-87...
Fry's $399.99 <Sold Out>
https://frys.com/product/9339760
govind - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
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