The i9-10980xe is pretty impressive when you consider where Intel is coming from and how far ahead AMD is in IPC with a more advanced manufacturing process. It's a solid chip, assuming that's all you need, because that's all Intel has that's price-competitive at the moment.
You are aware that the 5950X is cheaper and considerably faster, right? Some Arbitrary "HEDT" moniker for the platform is irrelevant. X570 can run 3x NVME at gen3 4x full speed without sharing bandwidth, too.
"We do however have the rest of Threadripper Pro 3900WX family in for testing, and we will be reviewing these on AnandTech shortly. " _______________________________________________
That should be fun. I hate (LOL) my Threadripper Pro 3945WX workstation. It's so fast I don't have time to grab a snack ... HA!
Depend of how often AMD release new generation, if they plan to release new architecture each 2 years then the prices will stay same. Currently the old threadrippers are cheap, because the new one offert much better performance. If they start to make even slower new generations we will see same situation as intel - trash i5 with 4 cores skylake on ebay cost as much as 2600 6/12, why? Because 5 years later this is the best architecture that intel have, so this trash i5 is the high end of the i5s. Meanwhile zen lose its value after 1 year because already there is real upgrade and the last year one is outdated.
I am rather curious why the 5950x wasn’t included. It isn’t officially an HEDT part, but it walks all over many of the other parts on the list. Also, at least in the US, availability is good provided you live near a microcenter.
^ Basically this. It's also cheaper than most of those HEDT parts. 3950X is, too. Both these CPUs deserve a mention here in this article because they are both in the same performance level, 5950X is faster than ANY of those in single-threaded, too (and gaming fwiw lol), and with cheaper motherboards, and still has 128GB of RAM support with 32GB DIMMs on X570/B550.
When you are an architect, you want a blistering fast CPU and a mid level Quadro GPU with atleast 64Gb ram and a very fast SSD. In a quiet case. Who cares about which platform.
The HEDT platform isn't just about faster CPU speed though. The bigger differences are that you can get more memory channels and PCIe lanes than you can get on any regular desktop processor. There are tons of workloads where having more cores doesn't help you if you don't have the memory bandwidth to feed all of them.
I broadly agree. However it'd be good to see for context.
$$$ limited purchases might demand a compromise. That decision may have been aided by seeing direct comparison of the 5950 to the HEDT CPUs. Yes, sacrifice on the platform side - but may be worth it for someone.
I think something is off in your AVX 512 chart: the 8C i9-11900K is shown beating the 64C Threadripper, and more than quadrupling the score of the previous gen 10C i9-10900K. If that score was real, the 11900 would be by far the best value on the chart, but I think it's far more likely something got mislabeled.
For those waiting for an AMD Zen 3 Threadripper, my personal feeling is that AMD is not performing well at 7nm. EPYC processors may very well not scale up to the speeds required for a TR chip. And, they are having issues just filling their datacenter orders with the EPYC chips. I really wish someone would get pointy-headed with Dr. Lisa Su and ask these questions. Where is Anand Lal Shimpi when we need him? (Rhetorical question...)
This “best” list is mysterious both as to whom it is addressed plus the choices. What percentage of the viewers of this site need, are using, or have a budget for $1,500 to $5,500 processors? “Best” is not so simple as to what has the highest benchmark numbers in two benchmarks that are both measuring relative to the number of cores. Processor performance is highly application dependent- single thread vs. cores, relative to clock speed and IPC, plus memory bandwidth, capacity, and speed.
For example, compare a mid-range “Smart Money” choice of the Threadripper 3960X 24C @3.8 / 4.5 at $1,400. In Passmark Performance Test, the CPU mark is 55,010 and the Single thread Mark (STM) = 2,688 (506 tested). For comparison, consider the Ryzen 9 5950X (16C @ 3.4 /4.9GHz) $800 CPU= 46,144 STM= 3,500 (1,233 tested). Yes, the 3960X will run through Blender tile renders more quickly: 55,010 is 119% of 46,144, but the real-time tasks of making the 3D models will be noticeably faster due to the single-thread performance: the 5950X STM of 3,500 is 130% of the 3960X’s 2,688. When rendering videos or large batches of 3D CAD renderings or compiling, the system works on it’s own, the user walks away, but when hand-on working on 3D models, video or photo editing the highest single-thread is “best”. A much higher percentage of users will be looking at $800 processors than $1,400 “down from $1,600" processors. The inclusion of the Xeon W-3175X is simply silly: it’s 28C @ 3.1 / 3.8GHz / CPU= 36,360 / STM= 2,247 runs at 255W, costs $3,075 and there were only ever two motherboards made for it. Those are all signs of seriously dead product. The realm of AVX512 is uncertain enough and those interested might consider waiting to see how it and the associated hardware develops.
In m view, the article did not address memory bandwidth to a sufficient degree, as that is a critical difference in workstation applications and a significant reason to consider HEDT such as Threadripper Pro instead of “prosumer”. Consider benchmarking in the wide-range of WS specific applications to assist in revealing what is “best” (e.g., see Gamers Nexus).
Anyway, many of the choices in this list; the ones that are “down from $XXXX” are down from those prices as they are to be replaced in August by undoubtedly higher performing Zen 3 Threarippers. As well, as announced at Computex 2021, some Ryzen CPU’s are going to acquire a special 3X L3 cache chiplet (total on 5900X = 192MB instead of 64MB) averaging a 14% performance boost in Ryzen 5900X. Is it responsible to recommend as “best” components that are only two months from superior replacements as well in importantly improved products in other series?
Disappointing article but at least encourages discussion of workstation hardware.
Well if those new Ryzen CPUs are HEDT then I can see them being on this list. But of far more importance is availability. Currently looking at the TR Pro and they're somewhat available, but like the article says only three motherboards which really puts a crunch into the process since on most backorder*. Plus memory seems to be the current silent sticker shock at $1,000+
*Most expensive and over-featured board at $999 and available.
I think of Ryzen 9 as "prosumer" processors- highly reliable, fast enough, and with enough memory bandwidth for serious professional applications, including development, compiling, rendering, 3D CAD, and etc., but not running AI, vast database, and server-oriented applications. The suggestion in the comments was that HEDT needs to be considered against the application and scale of projects to judge whether it's necessary and/or cost effective.
You're correct that availability is an important issue: to some degree it doesn't matter what is best if it it can't be purchased, but a longer view is to say something along the lines of, "This is the best component and I can wait for it." Buying something to "make do", being hyper-vigilant, shopping twice and replacing it is more expensive and time-consuming than a task running a couple of minutes longer. The problem is that at the HEDT and server level, the buyers are forced to pay whatever they cost. In a intensive commercial situation- a hyper-scale server function though can often not wait. Amazon makes about $26M /hour, so ensuring absolute reliability and a 10% performance improvement is worth the cost. I would dearly like to replace the current GTX 1070 Ti with an RTX 3070- the "best" for my uses, but performance is perceptually relative; until it's dramatically improved and experienced, it's impossible to, as it were, miss in advance. I'll wait- for me it's a few minutes here and there.
Already (6.12.21) it's possible to buy Ryzen 5900X at msrp and 5950X at a $50-80 premium instead of the recent $200-300 premium. The prosumer CPU situation is improving at least. Yes, $700- $1,000 motherboards, 2TB of RAM, and enterprise M.2 drives at $3,000+ are other compounding reasons to be more judicious in suggesting HEDT systems.
It's accurate as far as how the markets are defined these days that 16C, 128GB RAM, and 7 GB/s reads from internal storage don't make a "workstation." But isn't it wild that that's so.
For those confused about what a 'HEDT' or 'workstation' processor is, ask yourself this. Do you run Blender, Small World GIS or Autocad all day? If no, you are not the audience this article is aimed at.
read the review and than look at the portfolio from OEM where it is 99% INTEL ONLY... poor narrow IT mindset and driving OEM/R&D funding by INTEL $$$$$$
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There's something very odd about those 3D Particle Movement benchmarks (and we've seen it before here, too). The AVX512 per-core performance ranges from 3.8 to 6.5 times that of the best performing AMD CPU, with AVX2.
In most circumstances, doubling the SIMD width is not going to get you even twice the performance, so a factor of four or more is incredible. Literally, incredible: it's really hard to believe that we're comparing like-with-like across the AVX512 implementation and the AVX2 implementation.
I can imagine that this benchmark has been highly tuned for the AVX512 case, which is perfectly reasonable, but unless there is some dominating operation that has instruction-level support in AVX512 but not AVX2, the natural conclusion is that the AVX2 version of the benchmark has not been optimized with similar diligence.
Without the source, of course, we can't tell. Can you provide a link to the sources for these versions of the benchmark?
Likely, some key part of that algorithm is gaining massively from an AVX512 instruction/s, giving a skewed picture. In a bigger, more-balanced application, the gains will be absorbed into the whole and shrink. Encoding, for example, doesn't seem to gain all that much.
As per the article, there's a wide variety of used processors or unsold new processors available in the ThreadRipper 1xxx and 2xxx series. You can save HUGE amounts of money, assuming your work is parallel. You could get a 24 core processor at the same cost as modern 8 cores.
I used to be very averse to used products, but my wallet has thanked me. My current Ryzen 3700x was used and it's flawless. Saved HEAPS of money. Highly recommend considering it if you're on a budget.
Naturally buy from a reputable place with a good return policy. As for TR it might be better to go with a Pro since there's a marked difference in improvement between the two.
It would be really nice if you could add recommended motherboards, since the motherboard guide does not have s4094 boards. Also, the fact that all AMD HEDT/WS/epyc have variants of the same MB makes sorting MBs tedious -- you have to go into the description.
Well the TR Pro is pretty much three boards, of which two usually is on back-order, and the last the most expensive. The regular TR is much better board and CPU-wise.
I recently built a TR Pro system with 256 GB RAM. Then my application's task crashed when it ran out of RAM. I am so glad I went with TR Pro and not TR, because I have another 256 GB coming in the mail.
(FYI: 3955WX CPU with Supermicro M12SWA-TF motherboard. 4x64 DDR4-3200 RDIMM, soon to be 8x64.)
For kicks, might try to build on of theses CPUs to find out what the HEDT is about in regards to preforming internet surfing, webpage rendering, etc... the tough stuff that taxes a CPU. Top it off with a RTX 3070 graphic card and 64GB RAM and NvMe gaming SSD.
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Duncan Macdonald - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Pretty sad for Intel that they are so far behind in the HEDT market that they do not even have a remotely competitive product.Samus - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
The i9-10980xe is pretty impressive when you consider where Intel is coming from and how far ahead AMD is in IPC with a more advanced manufacturing process. It's a solid chip, assuming that's all you need, because that's all Intel has that's price-competitive at the moment.AshlayW - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
You are aware that the 5950X is cheaper and considerably faster, right? Some Arbitrary "HEDT" moniker for the platform is irrelevant. X570 can run 3x NVME at gen3 4x full speed without sharing bandwidth, too.Jorgp2 - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
>Some Arbitrary "HEDT" moniker for the platform is irrelevant.Talk about having to move goalposts.
A 10900x can have two GPUs running at full bandwidth, four NVMe directly on the CPU, and still have some SSDs and networking through the chipset.
Along with supporting 256GB of RAM.
And don't come up with something stupid like a magical product that converts Gen 4 lanes to double the Gen 3 lanes for free.
Smell This - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
"We do however have the rest of Threadripper Pro 3900WX family in for testing, and we will be reviewing these on AnandTech shortly. "
_______________________________________________
That should be fun.
I hate (LOL) my Threadripper Pro 3945WX workstation. It's so fast I don't have time to grab a snack ... HA!
GeoffreyA - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
The small Eifell Tower can do things the big Eifell Tower can only dream of ;)jerrylzy - Sunday, June 13, 2021 - link
Lenovo P620?29a - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
"embarrassingly parallel"Possibly the most annoying phrase used in computing, closely followed by "spinning rust".
sheh - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Spinning rust - yeah, might've been cute initially, but that cliche has long worn out its welcome.Spunjji - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
Why? If you're not aware, "embarrassing" in this sense doesn't mean "humiliating".29a - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
I'd like to see more benchmarks between Enterprise vs Pro.Oxford Guy - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Dinky stuff. I want wafer-scale!dicobalt - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
I wonder what the used Threadripper market is going to look like in another 2-3 years.usiname - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
Depend of how often AMD release new generation, if they plan to release new architecture each 2 years then the prices will stay same. Currently the old threadrippers are cheap, because the new one offert much better performance. If they start to make even slower new generations we will see same situation as intel - trash i5 with 4 cores skylake on ebay cost as much as 2600 6/12, why? Because 5 years later this is the best architecture that intel have, so this trash i5 is the high end of the i5s. Meanwhile zen lose its value after 1 year because already there is real upgrade and the last year one is outdated.tyger11 - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Really looking forward to a Zen 3 TR Pro.eek2121 - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
I am rather curious why the 5950x wasn’t included. It isn’t officially an HEDT part, but it walks all over many of the other parts on the list. Also, at least in the US, availability is good provided you live near a microcenter.AshlayW - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
^ Basically this. It's also cheaper than most of those HEDT parts. 3950X is, too. Both these CPUs deserve a mention here in this article because they are both in the same performance level, 5950X is faster than ANY of those in single-threaded, too (and gaming fwiw lol), and with cheaper motherboards, and still has 128GB of RAM support with 32GB DIMMs on X570/B550.Jorgp2 - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
Because it isn't an HEDT part.What's the point in having more performance if it would DNC test that reflect real world use cases?
Foeketijn - Saturday, June 26, 2021 - link
When you are an architect, you want a blistering fast CPU and a mid level Quadro GPU with atleast 64Gb ram and a very fast SSD. In a quiet case.Who cares about which platform.
tomatotree - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
The HEDT platform isn't just about faster CPU speed though. The bigger differences are that you can get more memory channels and PCIe lanes than you can get on any regular desktop processor. There are tons of workloads where having more cores doesn't help you if you don't have the memory bandwidth to feed all of them.Atari2600 - Sunday, June 13, 2021 - link
I broadly agree. However it'd be good to see for context.$$$ limited purchases might demand a compromise. That decision may have been aided by seeing direct comparison of the 5950 to the HEDT CPUs. Yes, sacrifice on the platform side - but may be worth it for someone.
drajitshnew - Sunday, June 20, 2021 - link
I agree-- a note in the VFM/ budget constrained sections is warrantedtomatotree - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
I think something is off in your AVX 512 chart: the 8C i9-11900K is shown beating the 64C Threadripper, and more than quadrupling the score of the previous gen 10C i9-10900K. If that score was real, the 11900 would be by far the best value on the chart, but I think it's far more likely something got mislabeled.Tomatotech - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
Well spotted, brother.Slash3 - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
11th gen Rocket Lake supports native AVX512, while the previous 10900K parts do not.croc - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
For those waiting for an AMD Zen 3 Threadripper, my personal feeling is that AMD is not performing well at 7nm. EPYC processors may very well not scale up to the speeds required for a TR chip. And, they are having issues just filling their datacenter orders with the EPYC chips. I really wish someone would get pointy-headed with Dr. Lisa Su and ask these questions. Where is Anand Lal Shimpi when we need him? (Rhetorical question...)Smell This - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
Your username is an apt description of your posts ...
alexbirdie1 - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
In the graphics 3990x, 3970x and 3960x are described as TR3.Do you mean "Threadripper generation 3" or , if the socket type, should it be sTRX4 socket ?
BambiBoom - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
This “best” list is mysterious both as to whom it is addressed plus the choices. What percentage of the viewers of this site need, are using, or have a budget for $1,500 to $5,500 processors? “Best” is not so simple as to what has the highest benchmark numbers in two benchmarks that are both measuring relative to the number of cores. Processor performance is highly application dependent- single thread vs. cores, relative to clock speed and IPC, plus memory bandwidth, capacity, and speed.For example, compare a mid-range “Smart Money” choice of the Threadripper 3960X 24C @3.8 / 4.5 at $1,400. In Passmark Performance Test, the CPU mark is 55,010 and the Single thread Mark (STM) = 2,688 (506 tested). For comparison, consider the Ryzen 9 5950X (16C @ 3.4 /4.9GHz) $800 CPU= 46,144 STM= 3,500 (1,233 tested). Yes, the 3960X will run through Blender tile renders more quickly: 55,010 is 119% of 46,144, but the real-time tasks of making the 3D models will be noticeably faster due to the single-thread performance: the 5950X STM of 3,500 is 130% of the 3960X’s 2,688. When rendering videos or large batches of 3D CAD renderings or compiling, the system works on it’s own, the user walks away, but when hand-on working on 3D models, video or photo editing the highest single-thread is “best”. A much higher percentage of users will be looking at $800 processors than $1,400 “down from $1,600" processors. The inclusion of the Xeon W-3175X is simply silly: it’s 28C @ 3.1 / 3.8GHz / CPU= 36,360 / STM= 2,247 runs at 255W, costs $3,075 and there were only ever two motherboards made for it. Those are all signs of seriously dead product. The realm of AVX512 is uncertain enough and those interested might consider waiting to see how it and the associated hardware develops.
In m view, the article did not address memory bandwidth to a sufficient degree, as that is a critical difference in workstation applications and a significant reason to consider HEDT such as Threadripper Pro instead of “prosumer”. Consider benchmarking in the wide-range of WS specific applications to assist in revealing what is “best” (e.g., see Gamers Nexus).
Anyway, many of the choices in this list; the ones that are “down from $XXXX” are down from those prices as they are to be replaced in August by undoubtedly higher performing Zen 3 Threarippers. As well, as announced at Computex 2021, some Ryzen CPU’s are going to acquire a special 3X L3 cache chiplet (total on 5900X = 192MB instead of 64MB) averaging a 14% performance boost in Ryzen 5900X. Is it responsible to recommend as “best” components that are only two months from superior replacements as well in importantly improved products in other series?
Disappointing article but at least encourages discussion of workstation hardware.
Threska - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
Well if those new Ryzen CPUs are HEDT then I can see them being on this list. But of far more importance is availability. Currently looking at the TR Pro and they're somewhat available, but like the article says only three motherboards which really puts a crunch into the process since on most backorder*. Plus memory seems to be the current silent sticker shock at $1,000+*Most expensive and over-featured board at $999 and available.
BambiBoom - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
Threska,I think of Ryzen 9 as "prosumer" processors- highly reliable, fast enough, and with enough memory bandwidth for serious professional applications, including development, compiling, rendering, 3D CAD, and etc., but not running AI, vast database, and server-oriented applications. The suggestion in the comments was that HEDT needs to be considered against the application and scale of projects to judge whether it's necessary and/or cost effective.
You're correct that availability is an important issue: to some degree it doesn't matter what is best if it it can't be purchased, but a longer view is to say something along the lines of, "This is the best component and I can wait for it." Buying something to "make do", being hyper-vigilant, shopping twice and replacing it is more expensive and time-consuming than a task running a couple of minutes longer. The problem is that at the HEDT and server level, the buyers are forced to pay whatever they cost. In a intensive commercial situation- a hyper-scale server function though can often not wait. Amazon makes about $26M /hour, so ensuring absolute reliability and a 10% performance improvement is worth the cost. I would dearly like to replace the current GTX 1070 Ti with an RTX 3070- the "best" for my uses, but performance is perceptually relative; until it's dramatically improved and experienced, it's impossible to, as it were, miss in advance. I'll wait- for me it's a few minutes here and there.
Already (6.12.21) it's possible to buy Ryzen 5900X at msrp and 5950X at a $50-80 premium instead of the recent $200-300 premium. The prosumer CPU situation is improving at least. Yes, $700- $1,000 motherboards, 2TB of RAM, and enterprise M.2 drives at $3,000+ are other compounding reasons to be more judicious in suggesting HEDT systems.
Sapphiree - Sunday, June 13, 2021 - link
1900X for low-end HEDT buhahaha, the first generation of TR was total crap when it comes to stability and bugs of the platform in multiple scenarios.Atari2600 - Sunday, June 13, 2021 - link
Do you honestly think that the motherboard bios has not seen updates in some time?Or do you think that a CPU has to live with erratic behaviour forever more and that microcode updates don't exist?
twotwotwo - Sunday, June 13, 2021 - link
It's accurate as far as how the markets are defined these days that 16C, 128GB RAM, and 7 GB/s reads from internal storage don't make a "workstation." But isn't it wild that that's so.croc - Monday, June 14, 2021 - link
For those confused about what a 'HEDT' or 'workstation' processor is, ask yourself this. Do you run Blender, Small World GIS or Autocad all day? If no, you are not the audience this article is aimed at.duploxxx - Monday, June 14, 2021 - link
read the review and than look at the portfolio from OEM where it is 99% INTEL ONLY... poor narrow IT mindset and driving OEM/R&D funding by INTEL $$$$$$astroopd - Tuesday, June 15, 2021 - link
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But I thought astrology was a pseudoscience, astroopd?Holliday75 - Friday, June 18, 2021 - link
Astrology has joined the modern era and uses HEDT platforms now.halfflat - Tuesday, June 15, 2021 - link
There's something very odd about those 3D Particle Movement benchmarks (and we've seen it before here, too). The AVX512 per-core performance ranges from 3.8 to 6.5 times that of the best performing AMD CPU, with AVX2.In most circumstances, doubling the SIMD width is not going to get you even twice the performance, so a factor of four or more is incredible. Literally, incredible: it's really hard to believe that we're comparing like-with-like across the AVX512 implementation and the AVX2 implementation.
I can imagine that this benchmark has been highly tuned for the AVX512 case, which is perfectly reasonable, but unless there is some dominating operation that has instruction-level support in AVX512 but not AVX2, the natural conclusion is that the AVX2 version of the benchmark has not been optimized with similar diligence.
Without the source, of course, we can't tell. Can you provide a link to the sources for these versions of the benchmark?
GeoffreyA - Tuesday, June 15, 2021 - link
Likely, some key part of that algorithm is gaining massively from an AVX512 instruction/s, giving a skewed picture. In a bigger, more-balanced application, the gains will be absorbed into the whole and shrink. Encoding, for example, doesn't seem to gain all that much.AbRASiON - Tuesday, June 15, 2021 - link
As per the article, there's a wide variety of used processors or unsold new processors available in the ThreadRipper 1xxx and 2xxx series. You can save HUGE amounts of money, assuming your work is parallel. You could get a 24 core processor at the same cost as modern 8 cores.I used to be very averse to used products, but my wallet has thanked me. My current Ryzen 3700x was used and it's flawless. Saved HEAPS of money. Highly recommend considering it if you're on a budget.
Threska - Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - link
Naturally buy from a reputable place with a good return policy. As for TR it might be better to go with a Pro since there's a marked difference in improvement between the two.drajitshnew - Sunday, June 20, 2021 - link
" ...but those people clearly don’t know what these processors are about" thanks for finally calling a spade a spadedrajitshnew - Sunday, June 20, 2021 - link
It would be really nice if you could add recommended motherboards, since the motherboard guide does not have s4094 boards. Also, the fact that all AMD HEDT/WS/epyc have variants of the same MB makes sorting MBs tedious -- you have to go into the description.Threska - Sunday, June 20, 2021 - link
Well the TR Pro is pretty much three boards, of which two usually is on back-order, and the last the most expensive. The regular TR is much better board and CPU-wise.Mikewind Dale - Thursday, June 24, 2021 - link
I recently built a TR Pro system with 256 GB RAM. Then my application's task crashed when it ran out of RAM. I am so glad I went with TR Pro and not TR, because I have another 256 GB coming in the mail.(FYI: 3955WX CPU with Supermicro M12SWA-TF motherboard. 4x64 DDR4-3200 RDIMM, soon to be 8x64.)
Harry_Wild - Tuesday, November 23, 2021 - link
For kicks, might try to build on of theses CPUs to find out what the HEDT is about in regards to preforming internet surfing, webpage rendering, etc... the tough stuff that taxes a CPU. Top it off with a RTX 3070 graphic card and 64GB RAM and NvMe gaming SSD.