Very interested to see how these quad core U processors stack up to their dual core "U" predecessors and the more power hungry "HQ" mobile series.
Speaking of which....has Intel said anything about Coffeelake HQ processors? I know they typically come out a few months after the U lineup - usually like January/February so we're still pretty far away. However, the chips usually are on the official timelines since many business grade laptops run them and need to be spec'd in advance.
And apparently these new quad U's are Kaby Lake Refresh, not Coffee Lake.
Besides the obvious groans about multiple architectures, lithographies, etc sharing the 8000 series...making this a refresh instead of a brand new line or series seems like a massive marketing fail. They're doubling the core/thread counts of the U line...why would they not be plastering "new architecture, double speed OMGBBQ" all over? They double the cores and call it a refresh? Marketing fail like I've never seen before...well done Intel.
When they make small architectural tweaks and call it "a new architecture" people rightfully complain. And you suggest it's a fail that they don't call the same architecture new? That would be a downright lie.. not even marketing is that bold.
These cpus are what the 700 series was to nVidias 600 series. A refresh of the same technology, but in different product configurations which benefit users.
Possibly Kaby Lake Refresh is Coffee Lake but for mobile. It does look like significant architecture changes happen. I expecting we are going to see a lot more systems with more cores coming especially in the mobile lines.
The performance of these CPU's don't just look because of double the cores, better battery life appears to happen.
They will have benefits when you are plugged at home and it is winter :)
In normal operating conditions they quickly clock down and you end up with a rather modest performance gain for sustained workloads. And sustained workloads are pretty much the only ones that merit and benefit from more cores.
That's for 2 in 1 devices, thicker laptops might fare better due to better cooling and more power juce.
I'm pretty sure that $900 is going towards the 2-in-1 hinges, NVidia MX150 and i7 procesor. Given the hardware and cooling abilities of an ultrabook, anything higher than 2160p would struggle terribly. 1080p gives great battery life and good framerates. That said, I do think that a 2160p screen should at least be an option since they have the MX150. Ultrabooks are all about sacrifices...have to give up something for the size and weight.
It will take a couple of months. It will be good, amd will finally be competitive in the high end mobile device market. I doubt there will be sub 10 watt parts thou, but it is not all that bad, because when amd say 10 watts they mean 10 watts, whereas intel's figures are understated, and the actual product ends up with a larger power footprint.
The article states that the 15 uses TB3; however going to Asus's product pages indicate that only 1 of the 3 models is TB3 equipped (the other two are just 5gbps USB3.1g1); it's the top end model with a 4k screen and the GTX 1050.
The specsheet for the 14 says it's only 3.1g1 (5GBps).
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Kakti - Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - link
Very interested to see how these quad core U processors stack up to their dual core "U" predecessors and the more power hungry "HQ" mobile series.Speaking of which....has Intel said anything about Coffeelake HQ processors? I know they typically come out a few months after the U lineup - usually like January/February so we're still pretty far away. However, the chips usually are on the official timelines since many business grade laptops run them and need to be spec'd in advance.
Kakti - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
And apparently these new quad U's are Kaby Lake Refresh, not Coffee Lake.Besides the obvious groans about multiple architectures, lithographies, etc sharing the 8000 series...making this a refresh instead of a brand new line or series seems like a massive marketing fail. They're doubling the core/thread counts of the U line...why would they not be plastering "new architecture, double speed OMGBBQ" all over? They double the cores and call it a refresh? Marketing fail like I've never seen before...well done Intel.
MrSpadge - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
When they make small architectural tweaks and call it "a new architecture" people rightfully complain. And you suggest it's a fail that they don't call the same architecture new? That would be a downright lie.. not even marketing is that bold.These cpus are what the 700 series was to nVidias 600 series. A refresh of the same technology, but in different product configurations which benefit users.
HStewart - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
Possibly Kaby Lake Refresh is Coffee Lake but for mobile. It does look like significant architecture changes happen. I expecting we are going to see a lot more systems with more cores coming especially in the mobile lines.The performance of these CPU's don't just look because of double the cores, better battery life appears to happen.
ddriver - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
They will have benefits when you are plugged at home and it is winter :)In normal operating conditions they quickly clock down and you end up with a rather modest performance gain for sustained workloads. And sustained workloads are pretty much the only ones that merit and benefit from more cores.
That's for 2 in 1 devices, thicker laptops might fare better due to better cooling and more power juce.
austinsguitar - Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - link
dude i am SO STOKED for these 4 core 8 thread processors man...zodiacfml - Saturday, September 2, 2017 - link
Same. When are these things get to reviewed?CoreyWat - Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - link
Really Asus 1080p for ~$900 smh.Kakti - Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - link
I'm pretty sure that $900 is going towards the 2-in-1 hinges, NVidia MX150 and i7 procesor. Given the hardware and cooling abilities of an ultrabook, anything higher than 2160p would struggle terribly. 1080p gives great battery life and good framerates. That said, I do think that a 2160p screen should at least be an option since they have the MX150. Ultrabooks are all about sacrifices...have to give up something for the size and weight.WorldWithoutMadness - Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - link
Still no amd raven ridge models? Even teaser or leak?Confidence, wrong strategy or gimped laptops again?
ddriver - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
It will take a couple of months. It will be good, amd will finally be competitive in the high end mobile device market. I doubt there will be sub 10 watt parts thou, but it is not all that bad, because when amd say 10 watts they mean 10 watts, whereas intel's figures are understated, and the actual product ends up with a larger power footprint.mr_tawan - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
does it support stylus?ddriver - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
"It also has precision stylus support"mr_tawan - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
Thank you. I missed that sentence.sonalimahajan93 - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
looking good ..and features too....<a href="http://justinreviews.org"> best gadgets</a>by asus
jaydee - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
Is the USB-C connector a USB 3.0, or 3.1, or TB?DanNeely - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link
The article states that the 15 uses TB3; however going to Asus's product pages indicate that only 1 of the 3 models is TB3 equipped (the other two are just 5gbps USB3.1g1); it's the top end model with a 4k screen and the GTX 1050.The specsheet for the 14 says it's only 3.1g1 (5GBps).
https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-ZenBook-Flip-14-...
markiz - Monday, October 30, 2017 - link
Damn OEMs and their slow rollout to availability.Are these things coming or not?