I've bought a Dell 8600c and I'm wondering if I can use generic SODIMM 200pin RAM for it, or I must use the more expensive RAM from kingston specifically designed for it.
Some computer resellers tell me that I must use the kingston RAM 5150 for Dell. But a Dell supporter told me that standard RAM will do as well.
I understand that some notebooks are made with customized RAM modules. This makes spare parts more expensive and thus makes it an interesting note to add in the review of a notebook computer.
I bought a dell 8500 last week and am typing on it currently, it is the most awesome laptop I have ever used, the screen is super sharp (15.4 sxga+) to tell you the truth 1900x1200 would be way too small, 1680x1050 is preemo, so much damn realestate. I had a centrino but wasn't too impressed (600m) battery life was not that much better than a standard p4m, perhaps only a difference of a half hour. Being a college student at Cal I believe the 8500 is perfect, because at the library there are many power outlets so battery life isn't an issue, also if you plug in a wlan card you can use it in the library without a hitch (preemo bandwidth). On the video card issue, I wouldn't want to play games on a laptop not because of the graphics but mainly for the sound quality...sigmatel in my opinion is not kosher on the ears. Long live the forums and dell stackable coupons.
Sony, doesn't sell in the same volumes as Dell. Toshiba was the first to market with the Go56x0 (we mentioned this in the M10 and NV31M head to head). However, this was mainly with the Japanese market. This is also the case with Sony, as they are not widespread domestically. We didn't say that the 8600 was the first with NV31M; we said it was the first mainstream laptop with NV31M. This is in the context of the domestic market and demographics.
Just wanted to correct an error in the article. The Dell is not the first laptop with the Geforce FX 5600go. In fact I'm typing on a laptop that has one in it right now - a laptop I bought 3 months ago. The Sony Vaio GRT170. Just thought I'd let you know.
This scan shows a Dell 8600 with a mobility Radeon 9600XT (128mb). It does not show up on any of the dell sites I visited (French, Dutch, English). Is this a hoax or a dream come true?
I must apollogize Mr Ku , I do seem to be wrong on certain facts there , but for my interest , would you kindly explain where the term Molex comes into mbile processing ,as it also refers to the electrical connector for a hard drive(or so I have been told/taught ) . As for Mobile processing often been entirely diffrent park , doesn't a desktop replacement laptop like , say a dell 8600 user a Pentuim-M chip , which uses 478 PPGA Flip - chip 2 array , just likes its desktop brother , the same that can be found in certain laptops as well , ? and doesn't Laptops use 333MHz DDR -Ram (albiet in SO-DIMM format ) , latest GPU'S , 7200 RPM hardrives , and some even with RAID systems . Please would you clarify this , as I am not challenging you , just simply asking ?
Hey bud :), I don't recall 386 processors in notebooks that used sockets... In fact, only recently have notebooks on such a wide scale used molex socket designs to house processors, and this is more for the ease of scalability and or the need to use desktop components. Remember that when you are talking about the mobile side of pcs, often times it becomes an entirely different ball park than when compared to the desktop side.
Btw, if you are refering to the use of "molex," it is a technically correct term. Additionally, we did not write "molex connectors." If you read page 4, you will see that we instead wrote "molex socket."
I just wonder when CPU's went from using sockets ," as they have done since the 386" , to using molex connectors as refered to in the article , should technical writers proof read more ????
The 7200 rpm uses less power if used over time..indicated by the write wattage. Here's a quick comparison of wattage use from the previous 60GB/5400 rpm model vs the 7K60/7200 rpm model:
60GB/5400 RPM vs 60GB/7200 RPM: Max (startup/spinup) - 5W vs 5.5W Seek (avg): 2.6W for both Read (avg): 2.5W for both Write (avg): 2.7W vs 2.5W (7K60 slightly lower) Performance idle (avg): 2.0W for both Active idle (avg): 1.3W for both Sleep: 0.1W for both
you can also try http://pctorque.com, they have the same laptops as some of the ones on the ati site but a little cheaper i think (plus there's one that has an option for a 2x dvd-rw drive and a built in tv tuner :) (that's if you're willing to dish out upwards in about $3000US for it
I totally agree on the fact that Dell should offer a notebook with the Ati M10(p) !!! ...I live in Belgium ( Europe ) an dcannot find a "known" brand with an ATI M10(p) offer...
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olberd - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - link
I've bought a Dell 8600c and I'm wondering if I can use generic SODIMM 200pin RAM for it, or I must use the more expensive RAM from kingston specifically designed for it.Some computer resellers tell me that I must use the kingston RAM 5150 for Dell. But a Dell supporter told me that standard RAM will do as well.
I understand that some notebooks are made with customized RAM modules. This makes spare parts more expensive and thus makes it an interesting note to add in the review of a notebook computer.
Rune
Duddy - Friday, November 26, 2004 - link
I just purchased an 8600 from Dell.com and the option for a Mobility Radeon 9600 was there and I ordered it. :)VIDEO: 128MB DDR ATI's MOBILITY® RADEON? 9600 PROTURBO
Total came out to be around $1800 plus 20% off all Inspiron notebooks. I paid exactly $1,516.40.
akodi - Thursday, November 6, 2003 - link
I bought a dell 8500 last week and am typing on it currently, it is the most awesome laptop I have ever used, the screen is super sharp (15.4 sxga+) to tell you the truth 1900x1200 would be way too small, 1680x1050 is preemo, so much damn realestate. I had a centrino but wasn't too impressed (600m) battery life was not that much better than a standard p4m, perhaps only a difference of a half hour. Being a college student at Cal I believe the 8500 is perfect, because at the library there are many power outlets so battery life isn't an issue, also if you plug in a wlan card you can use it in the library without a hitch (preemo bandwidth). On the video card issue, I wouldn't want to play games on a laptop not because of the graphics but mainly for the sound quality...sigmatel in my opinion is not kosher on the ears. Long live the forums and dell stackable coupons.Andrew Ku - Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - link
Sony, doesn't sell in the same volumes as Dell. Toshiba was the first to market with the Go56x0 (we mentioned this in the M10 and NV31M head to head). However, this was mainly with the Japanese market. This is also the case with Sony, as they are not widespread domestically. We didn't say that the 8600 was the first with NV31M; we said it was the first mainstream laptop with NV31M. This is in the context of the domestic market and demographics.Anonymous User - Saturday, October 18, 2003 - link
Just wanted to correct an error in the article. The Dell is not the first laptop with the Geforce FX 5600go. In fact I'm typing on a laptop that has one in it right now - a laptop I bought 3 months ago. The Sony Vaio GRT170. Just thought I'd let you know.Anonymous User - Thursday, October 16, 2003 - link
Somebody know EUROCOM notebooks?? are they good quality? They have "nice" notebooks wit m10pAnonymous User - Thursday, October 16, 2003 - link
nice photoshop art in my opinion... otherwise Andrew Ku would aahve known this don't you think????Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - link
http://forum.tt-hardware.com/uploads/pub_dell_pcac...This scan shows a Dell 8600 with a mobility Radeon 9600XT (128mb). It does not show up on any of the dell sites I visited (French, Dutch, English). Is this a hoax or a dream come true?
Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - link
Whatever... Dell is bull....Anonymous User - Sunday, October 12, 2003 - link
I must apollogize Mr Ku , I do seem to be wrong on certain facts there , but for my interest , would you kindly explain where the term Molex comes into mbile processing ,as it also refers to the electrical connector for a hard drive(or so I have been told/taught ) . As for Mobile processing often been entirely diffrent park , doesn't a desktop replacement laptop like , say a dell 8600 user a Pentuim-M chip , which uses 478 PPGA Flip - chip 2 array , just likes its desktop brother , the same that can be found in certain laptops as well , ? and doesn't Laptops use 333MHz DDR -Ram (albiet in SO-DIMM format ) , latest GPU'S , 7200 RPM hardrives , and some even with RAID systems . Please would you clarify this , as I am not challenging you , just simply asking ?Bandwidth Boy
Andrew Ku - Saturday, October 11, 2003 - link
Hey bud :), I don't recall 386 processors in notebooks that used sockets... In fact, only recently have notebooks on such a wide scale used molex socket designs to house processors, and this is more for the ease of scalability and or the need to use desktop components. Remember that when you are talking about the mobile side of pcs, often times it becomes an entirely different ball park than when compared to the desktop side.Btw, if you are refering to the use of "molex," it is a technically correct term. Additionally, we did not write "molex connectors." If you read page 4, you will see that we instead wrote "molex socket."
Anonymous User - Saturday, October 11, 2003 - link
I just wonder when CPU's went from using sockets ," as they have done since the 386" , to using molex connectors as refered to in the article , should technical writers proof read more ????bandwidthboy
Anonymous User - Friday, October 10, 2003 - link
The 7200 rpm uses less power if used over time..indicated by the write wattage.Here's a quick comparison of wattage use from the previous 60GB/5400 rpm model vs the 7K60/7200 rpm model:
60GB/5400 RPM vs 60GB/7200 RPM:
Max (startup/spinup) - 5W vs 5.5W
Seek (avg): 2.6W for both
Read (avg): 2.5W for both
Write (avg): 2.7W vs 2.5W
(7K60 slightly lower)
Performance idle (avg): 2.0W for both
Active idle (avg): 1.3W for both
Sleep: 0.1W for both
Anonymous User - Friday, October 10, 2003 - link
well if you guys are looking for m10's in laptops you can try looking here:http://atitech.com/buy/onboard/mobile/mobilityrade...
you can also try http://pctorque.com, they have the same laptops as some of the ones on the ati site but a little cheaper i think (plus there's one that has an option for a 2x dvd-rw drive and a built in tv tuner :) (that's if you're willing to dish out upwards in about $3000US for it
Anonymous User - Friday, October 10, 2003 - link
# 4 If you want quality settings like FSAA & Aniso the ATI is much..much.. better.Also 2D graphics quality is on the ATI A LOT better!!
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link
He meant for a monitor only, read more carfullyAnonymous User - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link
# 2 try 2300.00 w/out a M10Anonymous User - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link
Actually they are not nearley that expensive for the 17" wide screens. Samsung has one of the best, the 172w.http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&a...
Well, I have a 8600 on the way, wont ship until early november because dell claims the 1920x1200 screens will not be in until OCt 28.
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link
I totally agree on the fact that Dell should offer a notebook with the Ati M10(p) !!!...I live in Belgium ( Europe ) an dcannot find a "known" brand with an ATI M10(p) offer...
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link
Yes there out there but pricey, a 17" $700 -800 on up...Anonymous User - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link
I'd love to buy a wide screen LCD for my not-mobile computer, is there any ? Can't find a review of such a thing