Would be nice if you could point out what better-known desktop cards the quadro/firepro cards are equivalent to. Also its curious how did the Alienware Alpha fit a GTX 960 in 2.2 litres and this one can't improve on that?
No, because it wouldn't fit the length limitation of the chassis.
Why would you bother mating a >$700 graphics card to a miniature prebuilt that would probably have issues handling a 7700T (35W TDP CPU) under heavy loads?
You can probably get better these days, especially if you're happy to do without an optical drive, but I'm using a Lian-Li PC Q08 www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08. This will fit pretty much any dual-slot card, I'm using it with an Nvidia 1060, previously I had an AMD 7870 in it, but there's space for larger cards still.
Where can I get the reverse of that hard riser card? I may need to go with a ribbon if I can't find the right card
I was looking for a low profile riser that mounts the graphics card on the opposite side so I can squeeze a mini ITX into a 1U (1.75" Tall X 19" wide) case with rubber feet so I can intake fresh air from the bottom directly into the graphics card
May need to go to 1.5U if cpu cooling is a problem but the width is perfect for setting my monitor on top of the PC and I need a bit more height for the monitor anyway
I imagine you're looking for an internal riser cable, because to fabricate the exact riser card you're looking for would require manufacturing of a custom PCB to match your case's dimensions. If your 1U case didn't come with a riser card and the manufacturer doesn't sell a riser card, it's better to stick with a flexible riser cable since you can just fold away excess cable while managing your cables..
You're most likely better served by using a chassis that actually has the internal riser card included in the purchase. The Node 202, ML07B, FTZ01B, and RVZ02B all include rigid riser cards (as opposed to cables) manufactured especially for the case, but if your intention is to rack mount it (you mention RU), then you can either get a 2U shelf or attempt to find a server chassis that supports rackmounting and has an included riser card for GPUs.
I imagine the chassis I've listed won't work since they're thicker than 1U and since you mention rack mounting, you're probably pretty limited on options given available rack space.
They need to ditch using obsolets cpu's like the intel's.
They could easily opt for the Ryzen 7 1700, with a minor tweak in a custom bios they can get the power consumption down to <45w @3Ghz and get updates all the way to 2020, 1151 is a dead platform.
It was the very first think to struck my mind as well. But this seems geared towards business use, so maybe those multi coloured audio ports can be excused.
But sometimes the computer industry seem to really act backwards. Tweak this offering a bit and it would be a very enticing product for light gamers. Instead of an external powerbrick use an internal. How hard can it possibly be to cool down a maximum of ~15 watt of excessive heat from a PSU? Remove that silly VGA connector and add more USB3-ports. And make room for a double-height graphic card since this would allow the use of a GTX 1050Ti without breaking a ~160 watt total power draw celling.
This only accepts single slot cards. I don't think a single slot 1050 Ti exists does it?
Think AT needs to do a little more background on this as I can't find a 1050 Ti single slot so don't claim this can support one. The 1030 looks like the limit to me.
" The card should use a single-slot cooler and its maximum length should be no longer than 208.5 mm. "
Oof, so close! An extra 45mm and you could fit the single-slot Galax 1070 Katama (253mm length). Or going to double slot thickness you could use one of the many 'short' GPUs up to the 1080Ti (though Zotac's 1080 Ti Mini would need the shroud trimmed down to fit) with the aid of a secondary 12VDC supply. Just going to double-slot with the existing PSU would still allow a much wider selection of cards.
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Visual - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Would be nice if you could point out what better-known desktop cards the quadro/firepro cards are equivalent to.Also its curious how did the Alienware Alpha fit a GTX 960 in 2.2 litres and this one can't improve on that?
Qwertilot - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Not sure about the Alpha but at least some of these really tiny things have used mobile chips - logical but of course you can't then replace them.hemedans - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - link
Enter your commenti thought alpha use laptop gpu?Samus - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - link
Doesn't the Alpha use an MXM module? It isn't a PCIe card.fackamato - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
This looked like a really good setup until I saw the 180W power supply.What's the best GPU that one can fit in this case with that power limit? I couldn't find the +12v specifications of the PSU.
inighthawki - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
From the specs table:"Single-slot graphics card up to 208.5 mm in length and a sub-100W TDP
Up to AMD Radeon RX460 or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti"
I'm honestly a bit surprised it can handle that.
fackamato - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Ah, thanks.I wonder, if you had an external power supply, if you could put a 1080 Ti in it.
JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
No, because it wouldn't fit the length limitation of the chassis.Why would you bother mating a >$700 graphics card to a miniature prebuilt that would probably have issues handling a 7700T (35W TDP CPU) under heavy loads?
fackamato - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Essentially, I'm trying to build the smallest possible 4k machine. Here's what I have to far, but it's too big. Well, it's the smallest I could build.https://pcpartpicker.com/user/mattematte/saved/JJJ...
JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
You're looking to build the smallest possible "4K" machine but the problem is you're sticking to MicroATX form factor. You can go smaller.AMD Ryzen 5 1600: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Qw96X
Intel i5-7600k: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W9RZYr
Alternative Cases:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MtV48d/silverston...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P9Wrxr/silverston...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zmgPxr/silverston...
If you prefer the almost prebuilt/barebones kind of kits that Shuttle typically offers:
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/magnus-e...
You're just looking at the wrong products here. This Shuttle PC is intended to fit small PCI-e bus powered GPUs only along with a low TDP Intel CPU.
fackamato - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Great point. I'm looking at ITX cases now. Thanks!mm0zct - Friday, August 25, 2017 - link
You can probably get better these days, especially if you're happy to do without an optical drive, but I'm using a Lian-Li PC Q08 www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08. This will fit pretty much any dual-slot card, I'm using it with an Nvidia 1060, previously I had an AMD 7870 in it, but there's space for larger cards still.Samus - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - link
Yeah, it's definitely pushing the limit of the PSU.Bullwinkle J Moose - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Where can I get the reverse of that hard riser card?I may need to go with a ribbon if I can't find the right card
I was looking for a low profile riser that mounts the graphics card on the opposite side so I can squeeze a mini ITX into a 1U (1.75" Tall X 19" wide) case with rubber feet so I can intake fresh air from the bottom directly into the graphics card
May need to go to 1.5U if cpu cooling is a problem but the width is perfect for setting my monitor on top of the PC and I need a bit more height for the monitor anyway
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JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
I imagine you're looking for an internal riser cable, because to fabricate the exact riser card you're looking for would require manufacturing of a custom PCB to match your case's dimensions. If your 1U case didn't come with a riser card and the manufacturer doesn't sell a riser card, it's better to stick with a flexible riser cable since you can just fold away excess cable while managing your cables..This is one such example, but there are alternatives on the market:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...
You're most likely better served by using a chassis that actually has the internal riser card included in the purchase. The Node 202, ML07B, FTZ01B, and RVZ02B all include rigid riser cards (as opposed to cables) manufactured especially for the case, but if your intention is to rack mount it (you mention RU), then you can either get a 2U shelf or attempt to find a server chassis that supports rackmounting and has an included riser card for GPUs.
I imagine the chassis I've listed won't work since they're thicker than 1U and since you mention rack mounting, you're probably pretty limited on options given available rack space.
guidryp - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
So often any of the small solutions are double the price. This is actually quite reasonable.Lolimaster - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
They need to ditch using obsolets cpu's like the intel's.They could easily opt for the Ryzen 7 1700, with a minor tweak in a custom bios they can get the power consumption down to <45w @3Ghz and get updates all the way to 2020, 1151 is a dead platform.
Gunbuster - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - link
Just shuttle reminding us they currently have the worst industrial designers in the industry, I swear they had more modern looking products in 2001...Calista - Thursday, August 24, 2017 - link
It was the very first think to struck my mind as well. But this seems geared towards business use, so maybe those multi coloured audio ports can be excused.But sometimes the computer industry seem to really act backwards. Tweak this offering a bit and it would be a very enticing product for light gamers. Instead of an external powerbrick use an internal. How hard can it possibly be to cool down a maximum of ~15 watt of excessive heat from a PSU? Remove that silly VGA connector and add more USB3-ports. And make room for a double-height graphic card since this would allow the use of a GTX 1050Ti without breaking a ~160 watt total power draw celling.
Twingo - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - link
This only accepts single slot cards. I don't think a single slot 1050 Ti exists does it?Think AT needs to do a little more background on this as I can't find a 1050 Ti single slot so don't claim this can support one. The 1030 looks like the limit to me.
edzieba - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - link
" The card should use a single-slot cooler and its maximum length should be no longer than 208.5 mm. "Oof, so close! An extra 45mm and you could fit the single-slot Galax 1070 Katama (253mm length). Or going to double slot thickness you could use one of the many 'short' GPUs up to the 1080Ti (though Zotac's 1080 Ti Mini would need the shroud trimmed down to fit) with the aid of a secondary 12VDC supply. Just going to double-slot with the existing PSU would still allow a much wider selection of cards.
jabber - Thursday, August 24, 2017 - link
I just hate seeing those spilt petal style USB ports. The just look so cheap. Why cant they use solid ones like Fractal uses?