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• ducsauce - Saturday, January 24, 2004 - link

  Does anyone know whether this would accomodate the upcoming Prescott? I have one that's been sitting around for months. I've been waiting for the new 90nm procs but wonder whether it'll be compatible.
  
  thanks

• Anonymous User - Friday, October 17, 2003 - link

  www.newegg.com carry it, but not in stock till oct 31,

• Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - link

  U. S Suppliers please??

• Anonymous User - Tuesday, October 7, 2003 - link

  2 5.25" bays? woohoo - this means that I can now get my 4 drive raid 10 array in one :)
  
  
  What do you lot think? 2 drives in the 5.25s, one in the floppy 3.5 and one normal drive bay. The raid card in the pci slot, a Radeon 9700 pro in the agp and a DVDRW/CDRW combo in an external case on the USB2.
  
  Lan is already in, sound too - what else do i need? (a P4 2.4c and a pair of geil platinums)
  
  
  My only reservation is the power supply - I know for a fact that (using an extenal meter that measures power drain) my rig pulls 220W when running 3dmark2001 and copying 2 files simultaniously and the only real difference is an SB live and my p4 is a 2.4b. Im just not sure that even 250w will be enough.
  

• Anonymous User - Tuesday, October 7, 2003 - link

  I still would get the Shuttle SB65G2 or SB75G2 , who cares about quiet? I need colling and performance. What y'all think?

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  Put anything next to an 800W amp in a cramped stereo rack and you will have cooling problems.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  I agree. Could we have some temp. readings of the case and of the rear exhaust. I currently have an older Shuttle SV25 and the case gets really hot at times. I already burned out one powersupply. I am mostly concerned about temperature since I use these SFFs as stero components along with the rest of my stero equipment. Put a little computer next to a 800W amplifier in a cramped stero rack and you will have cooling problems.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  Apple introduced the Cube back in July 2000, if I recall correctly. But then again, the Next Cube came out long before that (Oct. 1988!). It was a fairly big cube, though. Of course, if you go really far back, things like the Sinclair were, um, small, too.
  
  Anyway, it seems like the Shuttle, Biostar and Soltek (that were recently reviewed) are all good PCs. Praising the Soltek for having more capacity is a little odd, though, since I thought the whole point is for these to be small.
  
  I'm shopping for a new system right now and have gone back and forth between mid tower, laptop, and SFF, and between Shuttle, Biostar, and Soltek. I think I've settled upon the Shuttle, though, since it's the smallest while still being full featured. (And it will take an ati 9800xt, unlike a laptop. Sweet!)

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  #9 I'm no apple lover by any means but #6 is right the apple launched the Apple ICube quite a while before shuttle started making sff computers.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  #9 what do you consider to be a sff?
  i remember some macs being very small(compared to hulking pc's at the time).
  
  while i cant say for a FACT that they were the 'first' to make a sff, i can say that i have seen similar sff-like-macs many, many years ago.
  
  
  btw, i am not #6, i am some other person.
  
  

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  hey wesley, great review...one thing tho...would u be able to post some temperature readings...especially the case temp...and compare that to a regular tower..doesn't really matter which...i just want to see if the inside of the case is hot. especially with the 9800pro in there...i know the case is very quiet...but my concern is that if the case is the quietest, would that compromises the temp of the system?

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  #6, show us proof that Apple released an SFF before Shuttle. I don't believe it.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  Found the EQ3401A here in the UK (www.pcnextday.co.uk) - no idea if they ship to the US though.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  Hey where are you located and where did you get the EQ3401A? I'm in the USA, but I haven't found any site in the USA that carries the EQ3401A or any site outside the USA that carries the EQ3401 and ships to the USA. Thanks for any help.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  I don't want to spark a horrible war here... but Shuttle didn't pioneer the SFF machines. Apple did. While I'll admit that Apple's machine had problems (mostly cosmetic), they did debut before the Shuttle boxes did.
  
  <flame away>

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  At last 2x DVD! But lacking ICH5R, shocking!!!
  

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  I notice you didn't use a serial ATA drive. On my EQ3401A (aluminium finish), the supplied ATA cable sticks out from the side of the case, preventing the lid from being replaced. A right-angled S-ATA cable would have solved this, but wasn't included. Can you confirm this is the same as yours?
  
  To answer Shalmanese - the shiny finish is extremely intolerant of fingerprints unfortunately.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  I was wondering how the noise levels of the SFF systems compare to regular systems.
  Anybody?

• Shalmanese - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  Is the shiny finish tolerant of strany finger marks and the like?
  
  It seems that many shiny computer things look very good out of the box but quickly become grungy after everyday use.

• Anonymous User - Monday, October 6, 2003 - link

  Thank you for the nice article. A nitpick: I guess you installed 1 GB of DDR400 memory, not 1 Mb DDR400 (page 8)...