Why? $230 for a snapdragon 430 based phone that doe snot even work with all networks? Moto has been doing the right thing IMO. Better chipset and unlocked for all networks for the same price as phones like this.
Can't wait to see the SD 450 phones. That should offer a good bang for the buck if it has 3gb of ram or more.
The main points of Nokia 6 are very durable and well done body and pure android. So not something you use for hard gaming, but a durable and good looking phone with good sound quality and reasonable camera at very reasonable price.
Snapdragon 430, with its 8x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1.4 GHz and Adreno 505, seems be more similar to snapdragon 616/617/625/626/630 series, which are also built on 8 A53 cores and Adreno 405/506/508 gpus.
My guess is now that the Snapdragon 660 has moved to Kryo cores, Qualcomm is simply moving the old 6xx series A53 based technology into the 400 series.
The 6 series models you listed have either 4+4 BIG.little core configs or 8 substantially higher-clocked A53 cores. For example the lowest 600 series that uses 8 A53 cores clocks them around 2Ghz. The 617 and up have more memory bandwidth than the 430, and the 625 and up have a faster GPU.
I understand what you're saying, but they're not just pushing rebranded 600 series down the line. Whenever they come out with new chips, they make tweaks and/or substantial improvements. It's just that in the pursuit of improvements, the lower-end chips "catch up" with the older-gen mid-level chips.
For example, the upcoming SD 450 will have nearly caught up with the 626. But you've already got 65x chips with a faster CPU, faster GPU, and twice the memory bandwidth. In roughly the same launch timeframe as the 450 (if not sooner) you'll see 630/660 chips.
Also, the upcoming 630 I mentioned still uses A53. That's why they slotted it numerically below the 65x series, despite being a newer release. So "old 6xx technology" is still in use in new 600 series chips, where it makes sense. They wanted to fill the gap between the older 62x chips and the 65x and above, both in terms of cost and performance. The 450 doesn't fit that bill, given it's still slightly slower than a 626.
You can have pure android on shitty $60 lenovo phones. Just because the nexus pixel has the same AOSP look, it doesn't mean that it will automatically qualify a phone for the same benefits you get there. Let's not conflate nexus and AOSP look. I just dislike the green accent used everywhere in AOSP, it looks worse on AMOLED. Goodlock in touchwiz can let you have the AOSP notification slider with all colours customizable. It is just absurd that a side project of touchwiz systemUI team has more customization options than Stock Android.
It's not absurd it's just that the world's largest internet advertising business care more about serving ads and collecting every single piece of data it can about you than giving you a choice of how to view your device.
It would be awesome if this thing runs smooth. It looks great on paper, but UI slowdown and stutters really ruin a phone for me. I still have an Xperia Z3, and this looks about as good (worse camera and SOC, probably) for a very cheap price. I'd love to see what they could do in the $350-$400 range.
The $340 China/International version is a joke right? Yeah good luck competing with likes of Xiaomi Mi 5 SD820 phones that are priceed $100 less, you gonna need lots of it.
Too bad it runs Android. I keep hoping it will improve, but it remains the Windows of the phone world. Function over UI at every turn, clunky, jerky feel, and grade school color and contrast choices. It was quite ironic that the company that originally made Windows made the un-Windows for mobile, and even more so that it died due to poor marketplace traction. It's good I guess that someone else is trying to jump in and make nice hardware, but there's never really been a shortage of that in the Android world, and as the lesson of HTC tells us, it's going to be pretty tough to survive with that differentiation alone. If the original Nokia/MS didn't make it, this never will.
That SoC though, makes it a bit less interesting. 90 A53 cores won't stop jank on single thread bound situations, two A72s and two A53s would be better.
I don't the article actually links to the $179 version? Here is a link: http://amzn.to/2sic15T (url shortened) Personally, I'll just pay full price.... but it's nice to have the option :-)
Yeah because those people buying those <$100 China phones with similar specs are going to give a shit about security updates. Wait, I don't think 99.999% of Android users gives a crap either.
I'm guessing once again no replaceable battery. I wish more people demanded this. I have no odea how people manage to use their phones relying on a charging cable to get their phones functional again. I just swap batteries. Portable chargers are nice but not as efficient and they have to be plugged in to you phone.
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VirusTheory - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Oh how I wish to have a Nokia phone with flagship specs again. Maybe that day will come again if this sells well enoughtipoo - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
The 9 will, iirc.Marlin1975 - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Why? $230 for a snapdragon 430 based phone that doe snot even work with all networks?Moto has been doing the right thing IMO. Better chipset and unlocked for all networks for the same price as phones like this.
Can't wait to see the SD 450 phones. That should offer a good bang for the buck if it has 3gb of ram or more.
haukionkannel - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
The main points of Nokia 6 are very durable and well done body and pure android.So not something you use for hard gaming, but a durable and good looking phone with good sound quality and reasonable camera at very reasonable price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5aXkW0EFRI
Novaguy - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Snapdragon 430, with its 8x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1.4 GHz and Adreno 505, seems be more similar to snapdragon 616/617/625/626/630 series, which are also built on 8 A53 cores and Adreno 405/506/508 gpus.My guess is now that the Snapdragon 660 has moved to Kryo cores, Qualcomm is simply moving the old 6xx series A53 based technology into the 400 series.
Alexvrb - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
The 6 series models you listed have either 4+4 BIG.little core configs or 8 substantially higher-clocked A53 cores. For example the lowest 600 series that uses 8 A53 cores clocks them around 2Ghz. The 617 and up have more memory bandwidth than the 430, and the 625 and up have a faster GPU.I understand what you're saying, but they're not just pushing rebranded 600 series down the line. Whenever they come out with new chips, they make tweaks and/or substantial improvements. It's just that in the pursuit of improvements, the lower-end chips "catch up" with the older-gen mid-level chips.
For example, the upcoming SD 450 will have nearly caught up with the 626. But you've already got 65x chips with a faster CPU, faster GPU, and twice the memory bandwidth. In roughly the same launch timeframe as the 450 (if not sooner) you'll see 630/660 chips.
Alexvrb - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
Also, the upcoming 630 I mentioned still uses A53. That's why they slotted it numerically below the 65x series, despite being a newer release. So "old 6xx technology" is still in use in new 600 series chips, where it makes sense. They wanted to fill the gap between the older 62x chips and the 65x and above, both in terms of cost and performance. The 450 doesn't fit that bill, given it's still slightly slower than a 626.ET - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
"doe snot". Now I can't get the image of Bambi's mother sneezing out of my head.SaolDan - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Pure android for $230. Yes.Mavendependency - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
You can have pure android on shitty $60 lenovo phones. Just because the nexus pixel has the same AOSP look, it doesn't mean that it will automatically qualify a phone for the same benefits you get there. Let's not conflate nexus and AOSP look.I just dislike the green accent used everywhere in AOSP, it looks worse on AMOLED.
Goodlock in touchwiz can let you have the AOSP notification slider with all colours customizable. It is just absurd that a side project of touchwiz systemUI team has more customization options than Stock Android.
Diji1 - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
It's not absurd it's just that the world's largest internet advertising business care more about serving ads and collecting every single piece of data it can about you than giving you a choice of how to view your device.wiineeth - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
if they would have used snapdragon 625 instead of 430 it would be an instant buy for me! Redmi note 4 offers Snapdragon 625 and Bigger battery.haukionkannel - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Nokia 7 or 8 may come with something like that. Nokia 9 is supposed to have 835, so it will be high-end and also very expensive.celestialgrave - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
Imagine that, yet another phone not compatible with Verizon...shame they have the best coverage in my area.cfenton - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
It would be awesome if this thing runs smooth. It looks great on paper, but UI slowdown and stutters really ruin a phone for me. I still have an Xperia Z3, and this looks about as good (worse camera and SOC, probably) for a very cheap price. I'd love to see what they could do in the $350-$400 range.StrangerGuy - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link
The $340 China/International version is a joke right? Yeah good luck competing with likes of Xiaomi Mi 5 SD820 phones that are priceed $100 less, you gonna need lots of it.ABR - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
Too bad it runs Android. I keep hoping it will improve, but it remains the Windows of the phone world. Function over UI at every turn, clunky, jerky feel, and grade school color and contrast choices. It was quite ironic that the company that originally made Windows made the un-Windows for mobile, and even more so that it died due to poor marketplace traction. It's good I guess that someone else is trying to jump in and make nice hardware, but there's never really been a shortage of that in the Android world, and as the lesson of HTC tells us, it's going to be pretty tough to survive with that differentiation alone. If the original Nokia/MS didn't make it, this never will.Mumrik - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
"but it remains the Windows of the phone world."Windows is the Windows of the phone world.
yhselp - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
The international model is too expensive; it'd have been much better if it had a faster SoC instead of the added RAM and storage.tipoo - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
That SoC though, makes it a bit less interesting. 90 A53 cores won't stop jank on single thread bound situations, two A72s and two A53s would be better.
Boogaloo - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
One chart omits band 12 support, another says full TMO compatibility. Something ain't right.coolhardware - Tuesday, July 4, 2017 - link
I don't the article actually links to the $179 version? Here is a link: http://amzn.to/2sic15T (url shortened)Personally, I'll just pay full price.... but it's nice to have the option :-)
Gunbuster - Wednesday, July 5, 2017 - link
So a standard ODM (Foxcon) phone. On the plus side it's T-Mo and Dual SIM. On the minus it's 100% Meh.That price needs to come down if they intent to compete with BLU on Amazon.
boxner1 - Thursday, July 6, 2017 - link
This is how you compete:https://www.xda-developers.com/hmds-nokia-6-is-alr...
StrangerGuy - Thursday, July 6, 2017 - link
Yeah because those people buying those <$100 China phones with similar specs are going to give a shit about security updates. Wait, I don't think 99.999% of Android users gives a crap either.jmunjr - Thursday, July 6, 2017 - link
I'm guessing once again no replaceable battery. I wish more people demanded this. I have no odea how people manage to use their phones relying on a charging cable to get their phones functional again. I just swap batteries. Portable chargers are nice but not as efficient and they have to be plugged in to you phone.andersonhenry620 - Tuesday, August 1, 2017 - link
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