"When it comes to display connectivity, there are three Mini DisplayPort 1.4 connectors, one DVI, and a single HDMI 2.0 port all in a row, making it possible to create a single-slot graphics card when used with a water block."
It looks like the exterior bracket is a single piece. Unless I'm not seeing something (possible due to the oblique angle o the image); to do it as a single slot you'd need to either remove the external bracket entirely (and find some other way to stabilize the card without screwing it into the back of the case; or to cut the 2nd half of the bracket off.
Kind of crazy how we're already this close to GPUs being shipped at 2GHz clocks. Not that long ago, a GPU hitting 1GHz was kind of a big deal. I'm thinking hitting 3GHz clocks should be foreseeable in the near future.
And yes, I know, clocks aren't indicative of real performance. I'm just stating that for the longest time GPUs were clocked at hundreds of megahertz, as opposed to what we're seeing now as thousand(s) of megahertz. So while CPUs have been sold for a while marketed as "4.0GHz" (rather than 4000 MHz), I wonder if GPUs will soon follow suit, too, in advertising clocks at GHz rather than MHz.
I don't know, perhaps finfets are the reason for the clock frequency boost. It might take another technology shift to further control leakage to reach 3 GHz.
NVIDIA had already released a GPU (GTX 550 Ti) with a 900 MHz core frequency on a 40 nm process back in March of 2011. In January of 2015, almost 4 years later, on a mature 28nm process the GTX 960 was released with a 1127 MHz core rate. 16 months later NVIDIA released the GTX 1080 with a 1607 MHz core clock frequency on a 16 nm FF node. We know they can achieve clock rates significantly higher than this without hitting a a power cliff if they are willing to be a bit less efficient. Maybe they can flatten the curve out a bit more or something.
Perhaps there is more opportunity to improve finfets, but it's possible that the jump was mostly a one-time boost.
We`re talking about a company that sees nothing wrong with keeping GTX980 passively cooled until heavy 3d starts. 60 degrees in a closed case, such a nice idea, those HDDs really need some extra warmth.
60C off a video card isn't really bad at all. If your hard drives are choking with a 60C device in your case, you need to get your case airflow figured out. Having the fans on or off isn't going to change the heat being generated.
Frankly, I agree. I've had to edit the cooling curve of every EVGA card I've ever had, sometimes at the bios level. I also personally don't like open air cooled cards, particularly because I build smaller ITX systems in small cases where blowers are more ideal. If nvidia uses a blower on the titan X, any card based on that die (1080ti) can certainly do the same. Vapor chamber it up EVGA.
Cases with very limited airflow are the only ones where blowers outperform open air coolers; and they're a distinct minority in enthusiast builds. Everywhere else the open air design is cooler and quieter. And since the GPU makers already have really good blowers on reference design cards there's not any room for significant cooling improvements by the OEMs in that style of card so they've stopped trying.
K|NGP|N's primary contribution to the project is giving his name for marketing hype. Beyond that he presumably helped with testing at the extreme edge of performance (the more important of boring work of making sure the card will last for years of use at factory speed would still be done by the in house QA team).
Funny you mention thermal engineering, I've had 3 980ti Kingpin cards blow up on me in the past 18 months. Stock clocks, lots of airflow, comically overspecced PSU. There are other reports online of folks on their 3rd, 4th, even 5th cards.
I appreciate their commitment to customer service but the downtime and cost of insured shipping is really making me regret my purchase. At least I had the foresight to postpone dabbling in subzero overclocking until I know it's out of warranty...
It looks kind of like chicken wire with three fans attached or a weird toaster with three fans attached, it could go either way....That KingPin guy must be highly regarded to test how quickly a 1080 made by evga can catch on fire.
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Memo.Ray - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
"card can be to be overclocked"jimjamjamie - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
they don't think it be like it is, but it do.DanNeely - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
"When it comes to display connectivity, there are three Mini DisplayPort 1.4 connectors, one DVI, and a single HDMI 2.0 port all in a row, making it possible to create a single-slot graphics card when used with a water block."It looks like the exterior bracket is a single piece. Unless I'm not seeing something (possible due to the oblique angle o the image); to do it as a single slot you'd need to either remove the external bracket entirely (and find some other way to stabilize the card without screwing it into the back of the case; or to cut the 2nd half of the bracket off.
RazrLeaf - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
Or they just swap the bracket for a single slot version when they put on the water block.JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Kind of crazy how we're already this close to GPUs being shipped at 2GHz clocks. Not that long ago, a GPU hitting 1GHz was kind of a big deal. I'm thinking hitting 3GHz clocks should be foreseeable in the near future.And yes, I know, clocks aren't indicative of real performance. I'm just stating that for the longest time GPUs were clocked at hundreds of megahertz, as opposed to what we're seeing now as thousand(s) of megahertz. So while CPUs have been sold for a while marketed as "4.0GHz" (rather than 4000 MHz), I wonder if GPUs will soon follow suit, too, in advertising clocks at GHz rather than MHz.
Yojimbo - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
I don't know, perhaps finfets are the reason for the clock frequency boost. It might take another technology shift to further control leakage to reach 3 GHz.NVIDIA had already released a GPU (GTX 550 Ti) with a 900 MHz core frequency on a 40 nm process back in March of 2011. In January of 2015, almost 4 years later, on a mature 28nm process the GTX 960 was released with a 1127 MHz core rate. 16 months later NVIDIA released the GTX 1080 with a 1607 MHz core clock frequency on a 16 nm FF node. We know they can achieve clock rates significantly higher than this without hitting a a power cliff if they are willing to be a bit less efficient. Maybe they can flatten the curve out a bit more or something.
Perhaps there is more opportunity to improve finfets, but it's possible that the jump was mostly a one-time boost.
ricketycricket - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Power connectors on the rear means this card will work much better in a 4U server.ghostbit - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Seems like EVGA needs to fire their entire thermal engineering team if this KINGPIN guy does it better with no formal training.Hurr Durr - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
We`re talking about a company that sees nothing wrong with keeping GTX980 passively cooled until heavy 3d starts. 60 degrees in a closed case, such a nice idea, those HDDs really need some extra warmth.vincentlaw - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
60C off a video card isn't really bad at all. If your hard drives are choking with a 60C device in your case, you need to get your case airflow figured out. Having the fans on or off isn't going to change the heat being generated.Hurr Durr - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
Having fans on removes the hot air, taking the problem with it. I have no intention to add fans into the case just because EVGa can`t do a GPU right.Samus - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
Frankly, I agree. I've had to edit the cooling curve of every EVGA card I've ever had, sometimes at the bios level. I also personally don't like open air cooled cards, particularly because I build smaller ITX systems in small cases where blowers are more ideal. If nvidia uses a blower on the titan X, any card based on that die (1080ti) can certainly do the same. Vapor chamber it up EVGA.DanNeely - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
Cases with very limited airflow are the only ones where blowers outperform open air coolers; and they're a distinct minority in enthusiast builds. Everywhere else the open air design is cooler and quieter. And since the GPU makers already have really good blowers on reference design cards there's not any room for significant cooling improvements by the OEMs in that style of card so they've stopped trying.DanNeely - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
K|NGP|N's primary contribution to the project is giving his name for marketing hype. Beyond that he presumably helped with testing at the extreme edge of performance (the more important of boring work of making sure the card will last for years of use at factory speed would still be done by the in house QA team).Grimmm - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Funny you mention thermal engineering, I've had 3 980ti Kingpin cards blow up on me in the past 18 months. Stock clocks, lots of airflow, comically overspecced PSU. There are other reports online of folks on their 3rd, 4th, even 5th cards.I appreciate their commitment to customer service but the downtime and cost of insured shipping is really making me regret my purchase. At least I had the foresight to postpone dabbling in subzero overclocking until I know it's out of warranty...
lazarpandar - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Expecting tesla prices on this onelazarpandar - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
titan*webdoctors - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
It'll probably still be cheaper than Vega and have better performanceHurr Durr - Friday, June 2, 2017 - link
I guess I could buy one at firesale liquidation price, I`ll give you that.BrokenCrayons - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
That's an interesting cooling apparatus subjected to laughably bad branding.ckbryant - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
It looks kind of like chicken wire with three fans attached or a weird toaster with three fans attached, it could go either way....That KingPin guy must be highly regarded to test how quickly a 1080 made by evga can catch on fire.