Are these people serious? No availability date for Ryzen or RX Vega. No prices. No specs on any SKU. No benchmarks. My belief that these products are going to be worth buying wanes with every passing day. If you have something good up your sleeves, every day you don't give customers a reason to wait you lose potential sales. The fact that they aren't doing this tells me they have something to hide.
spoken like a real intel fanboy... thanks for the laugh.
i am using intel for 12 years now and im sick of being milked. ryzen showed that AMD can deliver.... only morons would doubt that now.
and i am sick to hear 14 year old kids whine about "but at 1080p the intel is 15% faster". some people do more with a PC then wasting their lifetime....
what i meant is.... 15% less game performance is as important for me as the rice price in china. a threadripper is first and foremost a workstation CPU.. not for game kiddies.
That 15% will be there forever, and as you move up in vid cards the same story will happen later at 1440p or 4k.
That 15% is important to MANY others. Also, if it wasn't for games, AMD maybe shouldn't market it as such in their demos huh? Not saying it isn't a "BETTER" workstation chip than gamer (yeah, sometimes it's worse than 15% too), but people will GAME on it. I'm sure there are many who bought pre-orders that are a bit peeved about the 15% (and more in many games) they just lost ;)
Unbelievable that you don't get that many of these chips will be in GAMER PC's. I'm over 40, still pissed about the gaming losses :) Won't buy until rev2 or just going Intel now. AMD might still get my HTPC's (apu's, need 2 of them) but not likely my GAMING box as Intel seems to own that until rev2 ryzen.
Seems Vega (AMD management) is going to be sunk by HBM again. Delayed 2 times, and probably lack of volume and margins again just like last time around. That sucks. It could have been a money maker 6 months ago with GDDR5x or maybe highly clocked GDDR5 even (how much do more traces cost vs. HBM?).
Actually there is no difference between Intel AMD at 1440p with any graphics card. And no practical difference at 1080p either since probably 99% of the people using that resolution are running 60 Hz monitors which can NEVER display more than 60fps
As long as I get a minimum of 60fps *who the hell cares what is faster*?
$500 for AMD, $900+ for Intel, 90% of the performance for 50% of the price. No brainer.
I'm still torn myself though. The six core is the sweet spot, same as the FX series, but the temptation of a 10+ core beast... I'm either going to go value-performance and get a six core or go stupid and build a beast.
Not ruling out Intel either at this point. If they drop prices enough on the i7s I'll grab one of those instead.
Faster memory only applies in certain titles, and even then it only shrinks to 10%.
Yes at higher resolutions the difference is less, but once you upgrade your GPU in the future to something more powerful that difference might be more pronounced and closer to the 10% 1080p difference.
Terrible presentation so far. We don't listen to Computex to hear bragging about existing products, but to learn something new. So far we haven't learned anything meaningful except the EPYC release date (those Raven Ridge slides were already leaked).
No, but they will care when financial analysts start talking about the utter lack of meaningful substance in tonight's presentation and the stock price drops as a result.
Really terrible, underwhelming conference. No specific details on SKUs and pricing for anything. And why demo Vega in Crossfire unless 1 card is going to come out inferior to Nvidia's competition? (Or unless they finally managed to get 2 GPUs to transparently act as one, but I don't think that is coming until Navi. And they would have bragged about it if they pulled that off.)
It has been getting harder and harder to wait, but I believe those APUs are precisely what is needed for my kids' computer for school. I really hope I can get a high-end chip for under $200, that will definitely gain wife approval.
anandtech is doing the bare minimum to report about AMD and threadripper.
if intel would offer us a new mainboard + CPU generation with 64 PCI lanes anandtech would be all over it. praising intel ....releasing new articles every 2 days.
instead we get articles about crippled intel x299 boards and CPU´s every two days.
i am in no way an AMD fanboy. i was an intel user for more than a decade. i buy what offers me the best bang for the buck. for my kind of work i need powerful CPU´s.
and this time it seems like AMD has the better offer.
Well probably because there's nothing to report on?
They did an article on the details from this press event, and I think one or two about x399 boards. There aren't many that were announced, so there isn't much to say.
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RaistlinZ - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
My body is ready.Radix999 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
My wallet is not.techguymaxc - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
Are these people serious? No availability date for Ryzen or RX Vega. No prices. No specs on any SKU. No benchmarks. My belief that these products are going to be worth buying wanes with every passing day. If you have something good up your sleeves, every day you don't give customers a reason to wait you lose potential sales. The fact that they aren't doing this tells me they have something to hide.Gothmoth - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
spoken like a real intel fanboy... thanks for the laugh.i am using intel for 12 years now and im sick of being milked.
ryzen showed that AMD can deliver.... only morons would doubt that now.
and i am sick to hear 14 year old kids whine about "but at 1080p the intel is 15% faster".
some people do more with a PC then wasting their lifetime....
vladx - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Believe it or not, 99% still game at 1080p or lower.Gothmoth - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
unbelievable you don´t get it....what i meant is.... 15% less game performance is as important for me as the rice price in china.
a threadripper is first and foremost a workstation CPU.. not for game kiddies.
TheJian - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
That 15% will be there forever, and as you move up in vid cards the same story will happen later at 1440p or 4k.That 15% is important to MANY others. Also, if it wasn't for games, AMD maybe shouldn't market it as such in their demos huh? Not saying it isn't a "BETTER" workstation chip than gamer (yeah, sometimes it's worse than 15% too), but people will GAME on it. I'm sure there are many who bought pre-orders that are a bit peeved about the 15% (and more in many games) they just lost ;)
Unbelievable that you don't get that many of these chips will be in GAMER PC's. I'm over 40, still pissed about the gaming losses :) Won't buy until rev2 or just going Intel now. AMD might still get my HTPC's (apu's, need 2 of them) but not likely my GAMING box as Intel seems to own that until rev2 ryzen.
Seems Vega (AMD management) is going to be sunk by HBM again. Delayed 2 times, and probably lack of volume and margins again just like last time around. That sucks. It could have been a money maker 6 months ago with GDDR5x or maybe highly clocked GDDR5 even (how much do more traces cost vs. HBM?).
fanofanand - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
You seem impatient, just overpay for Intel and be done with it.Outlander_04 - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
Actually there is no difference between Intel AMD at 1440p with any graphics card.And no practical difference at 1080p either since probably 99% of the people using that resolution are running 60 Hz monitors which can NEVER display more than 60fps
What was your point again ?
0ldman79 - Friday, June 2, 2017 - link
Outlander_04, exactly.As long as I get a minimum of 60fps *who the hell cares what is faster*?
$500 for AMD, $900+ for Intel, 90% of the performance for 50% of the price. No brainer.
I'm still torn myself though. The six core is the sweet spot, same as the FX series, but the temptation of a 10+ core beast... I'm either going to go value-performance and get a six core or go stupid and build a beast.
Not ruling out Intel either at this point. If they drop prices enough on the i7s I'll grab one of those instead.
Outlander_04 - Friday, June 2, 2017 - link
Gaming was my sole reason to upgrade so I have an R5 1600lioncat55 - Friday, June 2, 2017 - link
Actually, that 14% shrinks with both faster memory and higher resolutions.Dr. Swag - Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - link
Faster memory only applies in certain titles, and even then it only shrinks to 10%.Yes at higher resolutions the difference is less, but once you upgrade your GPU in the future to something more powerful that difference might be more pronounced and closer to the 10% 1080p difference.
Nem35 - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
HAHA! Gothmoth you made my day.WorldWithoutMadness - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
raven ridge, raven ridge, please announce raven ridgeJDG1980 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
When will they shut up about OEMs and get to Vega?!JDG1980 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
Terrible presentation so far. We don't listen to Computex to hear bragging about existing products, but to learn something new. So far we haven't learned anything meaningful except the EPYC release date (those Raven Ridge slides were already leaked).Cygni - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
I don't think AMD really cares why you listen to Computex presentations over the internet.JDG1980 - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
No, but they will care when financial analysts start talking about the utter lack of meaningful substance in tonight's presentation and the stock price drops as a result.qasdfdsaq - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Yeah, that happened... Not.AMD stocks are up, Intel are down. The market continues to surprise me...
Maleorderbride - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
And Intel October puts are up 13% today alone. Sounds like the market is smelling collapsing Intel profit margins after their next quarterly report.wolfemane - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
I hope we see a couple mITX boards in release. Asrock had that sweet mITX x299 board. Hopes to see that from AMD, and more mITX boards in general.JDG1980 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link
Really terrible, underwhelming conference. No specific details on SKUs and pricing for anything. And why demo Vega in Crossfire unless 1 card is going to come out inferior to Nvidia's competition? (Or unless they finally managed to get 2 GPUs to transparently act as one, but I don't think that is coming until Navi. And they would have bragged about it if they pulled that off.)JohnLinc - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
ThisistotesthedelayforWEBlizanosi - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
Amazing http://www.promocodeway.com/coupons/ubereats-promo...tamalero - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link
hang on, they did not post anything meanfully regarding VEGA?fanofanand - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link
It has been getting harder and harder to wait, but I believe those APUs are precisely what is needed for my kids' computer for school. I really hope I can get a high-end chip for under $200, that will definitely gain wife approval.Alexvrb - Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - link
"Worlds first and only all-in-one with an eight core CPU, I don't think he was counting Xeons here"There are Xeon all-in-ones? What's the target audience for that??
Alexvrb - Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - link
Sorry I meant Xeon octa-core all-in-ones. Something with a lower core count wouldn't be anything to be surprised about.Gothmoth - Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - link
anandtech is doing the bare minimum to report about AMD and threadripper.if intel would offer us a new mainboard + CPU generation with 64 PCI lanes anandtech would be all over it. praising intel ....releasing new articles every 2 days.
instead we get articles about crippled intel x299 boards and CPU´s every two days.
i am in no way an AMD fanboy. i was an intel user for more than a decade.
i buy what offers me the best bang for the buck. for my kind of work i need powerful CPU´s.
and this time it seems like AMD has the better offer.
Dr. Swag - Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - link
Well probably because there's nothing to report on?They did an article on the details from this press event, and I think one or two about x399 boards. There aren't many that were announced, so there isn't much to say.