Since the public became unreasonably outraged over SuperFish, unjustly accusing Lenovo of all sorts of absurd things, the company has had to remove a lot of background revenue-generating preloaded software which drives up the cost of their laptops. If people had just kept their mouths shut, you'd still be able to buy a top-end laptop like the Y920, enjoy Lenovo's industry leading post-sales support, and their outstanding industrial design for far less money. It's really the fault of consumers that we've gotten to this point. The company was really working hard to make things better and their customers (and a lot of people that weren't even buying their products) got greedy and grubbed around making waves about nothing they should have concerned themselves with. It's not like the go after Facebook or Google for doing what they do, but some serious anti-Lenovo bias drove them to irrational outrage for no good reason.
No he's not being sarcastic. This guy is so full of it on ever article he comments on. He either has his tin foil hat on and accuses companies of all kinds of outrageous nonsense, or he takes that hat off, like now, and backs up a company that has been proven to install backdoors in the firmware of their products.
At any rate, I think we are all happy to see HP taking the #1 spot so far this year from Lenovo after a 3 year reign. Competition is good, and it has really pushed HP to be more aggressive with prices (this article's laptop excluded, there is no arguing that Lenovo's most attractive proposition over the last decade has been their subjectively low cost compared to Dell, HP, Apple, and even Acer.)
The real issue here, is can Lenovo make a $2700 laptop that actually feels like a $2700 laptop. I don't think so. I haven't felt a "premium" product from Lenovo for years, and we used to deal with all of them in IT before Northwestern Hospital began transitioning away from Lenovo in 2013 toward HP.
And I'd be lying if I said superfish had nothing to do with it. But there are obviously dozens of factors in switching 5,000 PC's over 36 months to an entirely different OEM. If I asked around what people like more about HP's here, I'm sure it'd be half think the support is better, and half think they are easier to service. And if I asked what people don't like, pretty much the only thing I can guarantee I'd here is proprietary components, especially in the servers, such as HP SmartMemory, our biggest peeve.
Btw dude, the difference between Facebook and Lenovo is that I didn't buy a Facebook laptop while not knowing that a dangerous exploit was installed at the firmware level.
As I commented below, you are a tiring troll.
"If people had just kept their mouths shut." Yeah because we should just shut up and buy products from a company with our hard earned money and not care what they are doing to that product without our knowledge.
You are part of the problem that allows companies to continue pulling stunts like that and exploiting their customers.
You flip-flop about issues on everything you post and people are getting really tired of you here. Go troll elsewhere.
"It's really the fault of consumers that we've gotten to this point. The company was really working hard to make things better and their customers (and a lot of people that weren't even buying their products) got greedy and grubbed around making waves about nothing they should have concerned themselves with"
I am sorry, is it a parody? Or Chinese Communist-style PR?
Totally super-deluxe, ultra-Communistic, megazord-transforms-into-more-than-meets-the-eye-important Chinese propaganda that you should take with complete and utter seriousness like that other guy that flipped out in posts above yours. :3
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gunsman - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
$2700 for a 1070? could pick up a 1080 equipped for that price. Doesn't seem worth itBrokenCrayons - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
Since the public became unreasonably outraged over SuperFish, unjustly accusing Lenovo of all sorts of absurd things, the company has had to remove a lot of background revenue-generating preloaded software which drives up the cost of their laptops. If people had just kept their mouths shut, you'd still be able to buy a top-end laptop like the Y920, enjoy Lenovo's industry leading post-sales support, and their outstanding industrial design for far less money. It's really the fault of consumers that we've gotten to this point. The company was really working hard to make things better and their customers (and a lot of people that weren't even buying their products) got greedy and grubbed around making waves about nothing they should have concerned themselves with. It's not like the go after Facebook or Google for doing what they do, but some serious anti-Lenovo bias drove them to irrational outrage for no good reason.thetuna - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
/s? I honestly can't tell lolacparker18 - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
No he's not being sarcastic. This guy is so full of it on ever article he comments on. He either has his tin foil hat on and accuses companies of all kinds of outrageous nonsense, or he takes that hat off, like now, and backs up a company that has been proven to install backdoors in the firmware of their products.He's just an opportunistic troll.
Samus - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
At any rate, I think we are all happy to see HP taking the #1 spot so far this year from Lenovo after a 3 year reign. Competition is good, and it has really pushed HP to be more aggressive with prices (this article's laptop excluded, there is no arguing that Lenovo's most attractive proposition over the last decade has been their subjectively low cost compared to Dell, HP, Apple, and even Acer.)The real issue here, is can Lenovo make a $2700 laptop that actually feels like a $2700 laptop. I don't think so. I haven't felt a "premium" product from Lenovo for years, and we used to deal with all of them in IT before Northwestern Hospital began transitioning away from Lenovo in 2013 toward HP.
And I'd be lying if I said superfish had nothing to do with it. But there are obviously dozens of factors in switching 5,000 PC's over 36 months to an entirely different OEM. If I asked around what people like more about HP's here, I'm sure it'd be half think the support is better, and half think they are easier to service. And if I asked what people don't like, pretty much the only thing I can guarantee I'd here is proprietary components, especially in the servers, such as HP SmartMemory, our biggest peeve.
sonicmerlin - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
Must be a trump supporterBrokenCrayons - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
Haha! Sorry tuna, I meant to /s that at the end, but I got distracted mid-post and when I came back to it, I left it out. :)acparker18 - Friday, May 26, 2017 - link
Btw dude, the difference between Facebook and Lenovo is that I didn't buy a Facebook laptop while not knowing that a dangerous exploit was installed at the firmware level.As I commented below, you are a tiring troll.
"If people had just kept their mouths shut." Yeah because we should just shut up and buy products from a company with our hard earned money and not care what they are doing to that product without our knowledge.
You are part of the problem that allows companies to continue pulling stunts like that and exploiting their customers.
You flip-flop about issues on everything you post and people are getting really tired of you here. Go troll elsewhere.
drajitshnew - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
I think you forgot your medications today.peevee - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
"It's really the fault of consumers that we've gotten to this point. The company was really working hard to make things better and their customers (and a lot of people that weren't even buying their products) got greedy and grubbed around making waves about nothing they should have concerned themselves with"I am sorry, is it a parody? Or Chinese Communist-style PR?
BrokenCrayons - Saturday, May 27, 2017 - link
Totally super-deluxe, ultra-Communistic, megazord-transforms-into-more-than-meets-the-eye-important Chinese propaganda that you should take with complete and utter seriousness like that other guy that flipped out in posts above yours. :3