A 1080 Ti is already 50-60% faster than one 1070. So with ~90% sli scaling on the 1070 pair, the 1080 Ti is within spitting distance at only ~10% overclock.
But if you REALLY need performance density, just wait six months for Vega 10X2. That oughta win the performance density competition easily.
Well the board is an older one - P7F7E-WS that I got with the CPU (Xeon X3470) for an unbelievable price ($200 for both CPU and motherboard) in perfect shape. If I opened up the back of the single slots I could actually fit seven of these on there. Assuming the CPU could keep it fed, the 1070 can do on average 700k ppd, the 1080 does about 800k ppd, the 1080ti would be good for maybe 1000k ppd. However, I could only fit four 1080ti's (double slots) equalling about 4m ppd.
Meanwhile, seven 1070s would be good for 4.9m ppd.
But why DVI? DisplayPort adapters are comparatively cheap, so why not keep the DisplayPort connectors? I am pleased to see that someone is acknowledging the demand for single slot cards, even if it is a small audience...
Yeah 4 mini DP connectors would probably be the best port configuration but having a Dual-Link DVI is potentially a selling point for some with older high-resolution monitors. I bet they could fit a DVI and 3 mini DP ports though.
DisplayPort to dual-link DVI adapters aren't cheap, they're around $100.
DP->DL-DVI adapters are not cheap. A significant (probably majority) of people using resolutions greater than 1080p are doing so on inexpensive 1440p panels without DP inputs (i.e. Korean monitors or similar) that require DL-DVI.
As long as it is a DL DVI I think it's worth having. There are still a lot of us that have monitors that rely on DL DVI, like all those cheap 27" 2560x1440 monitors and I have a Dell 3007WFP that is pre-displayport so it also relies on DL DVI. DP -> DL DVI adapters aren't that cheap and they can be finicky. It sucks, I agree we should move on but for now there are still a lot of people depending on them. I also have a U3011 that I can run on DP but it is a finicky and "disconnects" from the computer if you turn it off, so I prefer to run it on DL DVI as well, if I can.
I feel like the kind of consumer with a cheapo Korean 27"er isn't the kind of consumer that has a compelling use case for a specialized single slot high performance gpu.
They would just use a dual slot card like everyone else.
I'd rather deal with the price premium and unoptimized (for games) drivers of a Quadro P600 or P400 so I can get a single slot, half height GPU. They're currently the only Pascal-based cards that have a sane TDP.
That's such a bad choice compared to a GTX1050 with manually lowered power limit, which would perform higher (more bandwidth, more shaders at moderately lower clocks) at half the cost.
That won't fix the double slot cooler issue. It would be necessary to find a non-OEM cooling solution of likely unproven capability. The last time I checked on Amazon, the P400 was selling for $140 so a GTX 1050 isn't half the cost. True, it's faster and may have drivers that are tweaked for gaming, but after spending almost a decade using latop Quadro GPUs to run the occasional game, I'm pretty happy with the state of professional graphics cards for casual amusement.
While I'm not going to buy one, it's great that manufacturers are listening to customer's requests and making these high performance single slot cards. The obvious target market is HTPC builds where space is limited. Thank you Palit for paying attention to what many people have been asking for.
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bill.rookard - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
Oh, the folding rig I could make with these.... there's a reason I have a quad-sli motherboard, and these are it.ImSpartacus - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
Wouldn't dual 1080 Tis provide nearly the same performance (especially if overclocked)?I'm assuming you're not cost limited or else you wouldn't have a quad sli board.
Samus - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
Dual 1080 Ti's take up twice the space.For occupying only one slot each, two of these cards would offer more power than any double-slot card available.
ImSpartacus - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
You'd be comfortable cramming two of these guys next to each other?I don't think that's a good idea. Look at the illustration in this article. There's a gap.
Furthermore, I think one aggressively overclocked 1080 Ti (or hell, Titan Xp) could easily approach the performance of two undercooled 1070s.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_T...
A 1080 Ti is already 50-60% faster than
one 1070. So with ~90% sli scaling on the 1070 pair, the 1080 Ti is within spitting distance at only ~10% overclock.
But if you REALLY need performance density, just wait six months for Vega 10X2. That oughta win the performance density competition easily.
bill.rookard - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link
Well the board is an older one - P7F7E-WS that I got with the CPU (Xeon X3470) for an unbelievable price ($200 for both CPU and motherboard) in perfect shape. If I opened up the back of the single slots I could actually fit seven of these on there. Assuming the CPU could keep it fed, the 1070 can do on average 700k ppd, the 1080 does about 800k ppd, the 1080ti would be good for maybe 1000k ppd. However, I could only fit four 1080ti's (double slots) equalling about 4m ppd.Meanwhile, seven 1070s would be good for 4.9m ppd.
Haha - wow that would be ridiculous.
johncena - Friday, May 5, 2017 - link
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But why DVI? DisplayPort adapters are comparatively cheap, so why not keep the DisplayPort connectors?I am pleased to see that someone is acknowledging the demand for single slot cards, even if it is a small audience...
ImSpartacus - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
Yeah, I'm normally pro-dvi, but for this slim use case, I feel like several displayport (or even mini dp) and a single hdmi would've been ideal.mjeffer - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
I was thinking the same thing. Not only that, you could fit four outputs on there without DVI.peterfares - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
Yeah 4 mini DP connectors would probably be the best port configuration but having a Dual-Link DVI is potentially a selling point for some with older high-resolution monitors. I bet they could fit a DVI and 3 mini DP ports though.DisplayPort to dual-link DVI adapters aren't cheap, they're around $100.
ImSpartacus - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
I wish miniDP would've beat out full size DP. It's such a nice connector, but full size DP makes it hard for everyone to transition.owan - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
DP->DL-DVI adapters are not cheap. A significant (probably majority) of people using resolutions greater than 1080p are doing so on inexpensive 1440p panels without DP inputs (i.e. Korean monitors or similar) that require DL-DVI.Bullwinkle J Moose - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
Noise canceling headphones should have been included for the high pressure blower!Silent graphics requires an extra slot
Silencers are required for single slot graphics
Sivar - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
I have never seen a silent 1070, but I imagine it would take more than even two slots for the massive heatsink that would be required.extide - Thursday, April 13, 2017 - link
As long as it is a DL DVI I think it's worth having. There are still a lot of us that have monitors that rely on DL DVI, like all those cheap 27" 2560x1440 monitors and I have a Dell 3007WFP that is pre-displayport so it also relies on DL DVI. DP -> DL DVI adapters aren't that cheap and they can be finicky. It sucks, I agree we should move on but for now there are still a lot of people depending on them. I also have a U3011 that I can run on DP but it is a finicky and "disconnects" from the computer if you turn it off, so I prefer to run it on DL DVI as well, if I can.ImSpartacus - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
I feel like the kind of consumer with a cheapo Korean 27"er isn't the kind of consumer that has a compelling use case for a specialized single slot high performance gpu.They would just use a dual slot card like everyone else.
BrokenCrayons - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
I'd rather deal with the price premium and unoptimized (for games) drivers of a Quadro P600 or P400 so I can get a single slot, half height GPU. They're currently the only Pascal-based cards that have a sane TDP.MrSpadge - Saturday, April 15, 2017 - link
That's such a bad choice compared to a GTX1050 with manually lowered power limit, which would perform higher (more bandwidth, more shaders at moderately lower clocks) at half the cost.BrokenCrayons - Monday, April 17, 2017 - link
That won't fix the double slot cooler issue. It would be necessary to find a non-OEM cooling solution of likely unproven capability. The last time I checked on Amazon, the P400 was selling for $140 so a GTX 1050 isn't half the cost. True, it's faster and may have drivers that are tweaked for gaming, but after spending almost a decade using latop Quadro GPUs to run the occasional game, I'm pretty happy with the state of professional graphics cards for casual amusement.damianrobertjones - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
"Since the boards are unique, it is likely that they will be sold at a premium"Typical.
watzupken - Friday, April 14, 2017 - link
Very nice looking. But I wonder how loud will the slim blower be, and how much does it cost.Kakti - Saturday, April 15, 2017 - link
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