MediaTek is still stuck with the old Mali GPUs plus they don't care about GPLv2, Their CPUs are useless when It comes to long term aftermarket firmware mods and custom ROMs development.
Personally I'm not that fussed about gaming on a smartphone. I have tried portable consoles (PSP) and smartphone games but the only ones that gripped me were the "Gurk" series and that wasn't exactly a GPU hog. I can see the point in having a chip which doesn't have massive gaming potential and charging less for it as there's probably a much smaller market for mobile gaming than we really think. I'd be very interested to see the numbers but I bet the vast majority of people are only looking for multimedia and casual (read - tetris esque stuff) gaming. The point is proven by Sony producing that slide out phone with a game pad. I loved that idea (and bought the one with a slide out keyboard) but it never took off, even with Sony behind it.
Personally, I'd rather pay 50 [insert currency here] less and have a mediocre GPU which can drive android well and a set of decent CPU cores. I do think the market would generally agree but I am perfectly willing to be corrected if anyone has evidence / experience to the contrary.
Oh how I loved windows mobile. So laggy and bloated and poorly coded. Then a new skin came along and made it amazing to use. My TYTN II was just awesome with that and a huge battery.
How is Android any different? The last three Android phones I've had dating back to the Galaxy SII all needed AOSP or CyanogenMod to be remotely functional.
It sounds like you might just want to avoid Samsung, their ROMs are trash. There are plenty of other hardware options with varying levels of competency in putting together stock roms.
Samsung firmware is demonstrably worse then other ROMs. It lags on hardware more powerful then nexus phones. It gets worse battery life then custom ROMs thrown together by one or two people. Touchwiz, in my opinion, is butt ugly.
The moto z, with a SD625, fells smoother and more responsive then a S7 with a SD820. And buying that isnt " buying an altar to worship glorious leader Google". It is just using the stock, clean, efficient interface that google uses in stock android.
Further evidence, HTC's skin is much lighter weight and doesnt lag anywhere near the level of touchwiz. Heck, Samsung ended up needing google's help to make touchwiz not suck harder than a kirby vaccum cleaner.
Sony stock ROM are fine but alas they employ Mediatek chips in some of their phones (such as Xperia E5 that I own) which means no upgrade - it's stuck with 6.0 Marshmallow and will never see 7.0, let alone 7.1 or anything higher.
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Quantumz0d - Wednesday, February 8, 2017 - link
MediaTek is still stuck with the old Mali GPUs plus they don't care about GPLv2, Their CPUs are useless when It comes to long term aftermarket firmware mods and custom ROMs development.philehidiot - Wednesday, February 8, 2017 - link
Personally I'm not that fussed about gaming on a smartphone. I have tried portable consoles (PSP) and smartphone games but the only ones that gripped me were the "Gurk" series and that wasn't exactly a GPU hog. I can see the point in having a chip which doesn't have massive gaming potential and charging less for it as there's probably a much smaller market for mobile gaming than we really think. I'd be very interested to see the numbers but I bet the vast majority of people are only looking for multimedia and casual (read - tetris esque stuff) gaming. The point is proven by Sony producing that slide out phone with a game pad. I loved that idea (and bought the one with a slide out keyboard) but it never took off, even with Sony behind it.Personally, I'd rather pay 50 [insert currency here] less and have a mediocre GPU which can drive android well and a set of decent CPU cores. I do think the market would generally agree but I am perfectly willing to be corrected if anyone has evidence / experience to the contrary.
jimjamjamie - Thursday, February 9, 2017 - link
From my experience you are correct for most mid-low end phones. 4/8 low-power cpu cores paired with the most basic GPU the soc vendor offers.damianrobertjones - Wednesday, February 8, 2017 - link
Custom roms... I remember all of that years back with windows mobile:-A new custom cooked rom arrives
-50 pages of people stating how 'epic' it is
-10 pages describing issues
-74 pages moaning for fixes or a new rom
Repeat. Glad that's all over with.
philehidiot - Wednesday, February 8, 2017 - link
Oh how I loved windows mobile. So laggy and bloated and poorly coded. Then a new skin came along and made it amazing to use. My TYTN II was just awesome with that and a huge battery.Samus - Wednesday, February 8, 2017 - link
How is Android any different? The last three Android phones I've had dating back to the Galaxy SII all needed AOSP or CyanogenMod to be remotely functional.Flunk - Wednesday, February 8, 2017 - link
It sounds like you might just want to avoid Samsung, their ROMs are trash. There are plenty of other hardware options with varying levels of competency in putting together stock roms.Mavendependency - Thursday, February 9, 2017 - link
Not everyone wants to buy an altar to worship glorious leader Google. Samsung firmware is fine.TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, February 9, 2017 - link
Sounds like somebody hit a nerve.Samsung firmware is demonstrably worse then other ROMs. It lags on hardware more powerful then nexus phones. It gets worse battery life then custom ROMs thrown together by one or two people. Touchwiz, in my opinion, is butt ugly.
The moto z, with a SD625, fells smoother and more responsive then a S7 with a SD820. And buying that isnt " buying an altar to worship glorious leader Google". It is just using the stock, clean, efficient interface that google uses in stock android.
Further evidence, HTC's skin is much lighter weight and doesnt lag anywhere near the level of touchwiz. Heck, Samsung ended up needing google's help to make touchwiz not suck harder than a kirby vaccum cleaner.
philehidiot - Thursday, February 9, 2017 - link
Interestingly I've been pretty happy with my last 3 android phones. All HTC.sunnyydv23 - Sunday, February 19, 2017 - link
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Sony stock ROM are fine but alas they employ Mediatek chips in some of their phones (such as Xperia E5 that I own) which means no upgrade - it's stuck with 6.0 Marshmallow and will never see 7.0, let alone 7.1 or anything higher.Ariknowsbest - Thursday, February 9, 2017 - link
Mali-880 is still fairly new, for a media/productivity its more than enough. Ain't Mali-G71 only in one design at the moment Kirin 960.As I prefer PowerVR I mostly game on my iPad as the games are well optimized. Adreno is nice too, haven't used Nvidia since T3/T4 days