"The minor product launch was the 256GB version of their Extreme PRO USB flash drive. The high-capacity 'SSD on a flash drive' boasts read and write speeds of 420 MBps and 380 MBps respectively. These are obviously peak numbers. SanDisk wouldn't confirm whether they are MLC or TLC drives, but, they did indicate that the drive does NOT have TRIM support." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Corsair Voyager GTX $102 @ Newegg or less than $90 when its on sale includes Trim Support, 450MB/sec Read Speed and "CONSISTENTLY" high performance
"The Extreme PRO is smaller, though, and can fit into more USB slots easily." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's great but GTX fits in all my USB ports
I can also run GTA-V from the GTX with Windows2Go just fine and it probably boots up faster than the Sandisk for $40 less, even after your price drop next month
I have Windows 10 to Go on one GTX and Windows 8.1 to Go on another
Windows2Go v8.1 on the GTX boots in 12 seconds from a 35 Watt 2.6Ghz Dualcore Sandy Bridge
Without a lower price, consistent performance, a "Fixed Disk" option and Trim, the Sandisk is for someone other than me!
Nah, Voyager doesn't fit when the next port is filled with a similarly large thing. It isn't easy finding fast and small drives. This is a viable product for a niche. I just doubt this niche is really relevant.
Even though the Voyager GTX fits all my USB ports, I still use a 12/18 or 24" USB3 extension cable because the GTX is HEAVY, not because it doesn't fit
Therefore, I don't care if something big is in the next port
I've had a lot of generic flash drives die after as few as 10 P/E's, such as Microcenters house-brand drives (they claim to be Toshiba but the NAND die isn't Toshiba NAND) and an older drive from ADATA failed in my security camera DVR after 1 month from what I can only attribute to overheating from constant small-byte writing.
fangdahai "How's the endurance? I am wondering whether I can host virtual machines there." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are referring to the SD card, mostly NO! If you load the VM into RAM? Sure If you try running Windows2Go directly from the card by using WINtoUSB to boot directly from a Virtual Machine? HELL NO!
If you meant the Sandisk thumb drive? You should be fine for VMs It may still be very slow when running demanding tasks when booting Windows VMs directly from the thumb drive when using WINtoUSB, but other VMs, like Windows XP run fine from older Sandisk extreme thumb drives when loading them in Virtualbox from a Linux Mint installation
speed of the guest depends each link in the chain
VMWare Player is slower than Virtualbox
Linux Host O.S. is less demanding than Windows O.S.
Demanding tasks will make ALL thumb drives unusable with a Windows host unless they have Trim Control/garbage collection and at least 8GB Ram
Windows XP Virtual Machines seem VERY fast on older Sandisk Extremes when hosting with Linux Mint and 8GB Ram (Even 4GB works - mostly) but only if the tasks are not too demanding and only with Virtualbox
VMware Player is much slower and glitchier than Virtualbox
TEST EVERYTHING! Then pick what works for your needs
Writes are inherently lower in flash products. There is no easy workaround for that. Even on devices that rate read/write the same, in practice writes will typically be significantly slower than reads, even if in a few specific scenarios they can reach read speeds.
1) Not always, there are products that are within 10-20% of read 2) The problem here is not that writes are lower but the lack of any specification provided to the "dummy consumers" that we have became.
What about data? If I have some small laptop with, say, a size limited eMMC hard drive I don't want to fill up, can I use the SD slot to save files (e.g., Excel spreadsheets or Word docs) to, and then delete them as they become obsolete? Or are you saying they won't really clear off the drive? Thanks.
"What about data?" ------------------------- Data is fine... Think of the SD card as a different form of thumb drive It is additional storage / not a primary O.S. drive
Google: "Trim and garbage collection" if you are confused
Is this card intended to be slathered over a cheap cut of beef to cover up that it should've been dumped in the grinder instead of put on the grill? Because if so I think they missed the point when pricing it well above a very premium cut of beef.
I don't think the pricing is that bad. Sure, you'd have to resort to a bowl of ramen noodles instead of premium moo moo, but isn't storing a bunch of stuff worth it? :D
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Bullwinkle J Moose - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
"The minor product launch was the 256GB version of their Extreme PRO USB flash drive. The high-capacity 'SSD on a flash drive' boasts read and write speeds of 420 MBps and 380 MBps respectively. These are obviously peak numbers. SanDisk wouldn't confirm whether they are MLC or TLC drives, but, they did indicate that the drive does NOT have TRIM support."-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Corsair Voyager GTX $102 @ Newegg or less than $90 when its on sale
includes Trim Support, 450MB/sec Read Speed and "CONSISTENTLY" high performance
That's MB/s, not Mb/s
Bullwinkle J Moose - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Sorry, missread MBpsThought it said Mbps
need more coffee
ganeshts - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Yes, we have reviewed the Voyager GTX before. The Extreme PRO is smaller, though, and can fit into more USB slots easily.Bullwinkle J Moose - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
"The Extreme PRO is smaller, though, and can fit into more USB slots easily."-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's great but GTX fits in all my USB ports
I can also run GTA-V from the GTX with Windows2Go just fine and it probably boots up faster than the Sandisk for $40 less, even after your price drop next month
I have Windows 10 to Go on one GTX and Windows 8.1 to Go on another
Windows2Go v8.1 on the GTX boots in 12 seconds from a 35 Watt 2.6Ghz Dualcore Sandy Bridge
Without a lower price, consistent performance, a "Fixed Disk" option and Trim, the Sandisk is for someone other than me!
Might be good for Linux though?
Zizy - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
Nah, Voyager doesn't fit when the next port is filled with a similarly large thing. It isn't easy finding fast and small drives. This is a viable product for a niche. I just doubt this niche is really relevant.Bullwinkle J Moose - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
Even though the Voyager GTX fits all my USB ports, I still use a 12/18 or 24" USB3 extension cable because the GTX is HEAVY, not because it doesn't fitTherefore, I don't care if something big is in the next port
fangdahai - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
How's the endurance? I am wondering whether I can host virtual machines there.hojnikb - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
if its tlc, then a few 100 p/eSamus - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
I've had a lot of generic flash drives die after as few as 10 P/E's, such as Microcenters house-brand drives (they claim to be Toshiba but the NAND die isn't Toshiba NAND) and an older drive from ADATA failed in my security camera DVR after 1 month from what I can only attribute to overheating from constant small-byte writing.Bullwinkle J Moose - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
fangdahai"How's the endurance? I am wondering whether I can host virtual machines there."
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If you are referring to the SD card, mostly NO!
If you load the VM into RAM? Sure
If you try running Windows2Go directly from the card by using WINtoUSB to boot directly from a Virtual Machine? HELL NO!
If you meant the Sandisk thumb drive? You should be fine for VMs
It may still be very slow when running demanding tasks when booting Windows VMs directly from the thumb drive when using WINtoUSB, but other VMs, like Windows XP run fine from older Sandisk extreme thumb drives when loading them in Virtualbox from a Linux Mint installation
speed of the guest depends each link in the chain
VMWare Player is slower than Virtualbox
Linux Host O.S. is less demanding than Windows O.S.
Demanding tasks will make ALL thumb drives unusable with a Windows host unless they have Trim Control/garbage collection and at least 8GB Ram
Windows XP Virtual Machines seem VERY fast on older Sandisk Extremes when hosting with Linux Mint and 8GB Ram (Even 4GB works - mostly) but only if the tasks are not too demanding and only with Virtualbox
VMware Player is much slower and glitchier than Virtualbox
TEST EVERYTHING!
Then pick what works for your needs
djsvetljo - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Great, another "Write speeds lower" product - no thanks (for the microSD card). USA style TV commercial marketing.Reflex - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Writes are inherently lower in flash products. There is no easy workaround for that. Even on devices that rate read/write the same, in practice writes will typically be significantly slower than reads, even if in a few specific scenarios they can reach read speeds.djsvetljo - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
1) Not always, there are products that are within 10-20% of read2) The problem here is not that writes are lower but the lack of any specification provided to the "dummy consumers" that we have became.
tipoo - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Damn products always abiding by physics. Marketing, all of physics, I tell ya!djsvetljo - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
The marketing fail (for us, I am sure it is good for them) is the denial to put proper specs on the package!HomeworldFound - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Almost $200 for a Micro SDXC memory card, I get the convenience and speed but I'd rather pay 75% less for a Sandisk 128GB Ultra card.tipoo - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
I'm curious about one of these as leave-in expanded storage for laptops, but how is garbage collection/TRIM on SD cards like?Bullwinkle J Moose - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
No Trim or Garbage collection on SD cards!Not for O.S. or VM's
(Technically, you could but very painful)
Apps only!
sfwineguy - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
What about data? If I have some small laptop with, say, a size limited eMMC hard drive I don't want to fill up, can I use the SD slot to save files (e.g., Excel spreadsheets or Word docs) to, and then delete them as they become obsolete? Or are you saying they won't really clear off the drive? Thanks.Bullwinkle J Moose - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
"What about data?"-------------------------
Data is fine...
Think of the SD card as a different form of thumb drive
It is additional storage / not a primary O.S. drive
Google: "Trim and garbage collection" if you are confused
Cod3rror - Monday, January 23, 2017 - link
Come on, get up to 512GB already.DanNeely - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
Is this card intended to be slathered over a cheap cut of beef to cover up that it should've been dumped in the grinder instead of put on the grill? Because if so I think they missed the point when pricing it well above a very premium cut of beef.BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - link
I don't think the pricing is that bad. Sure, you'd have to resort to a bowl of ramen noodles instead of premium moo moo, but isn't storing a bunch of stuff worth it? :D