The crucial bit will be the affordability of 10GbE 4-8 port switches. As long as the price is not stupid, I and many enthusiasts would be willing to pay a decent premium for one.
Cant wait to see more and more 10gig equipment hit the market! Sooooo excited! Just need some cheaper/quieter switches ($4-8 ports for $500 or less), and cards like this for under $100
I was actually thinking the same thing... what's the point of posting 8 images of the same side, and not one of the actual port (to see lights, placement, branding, etc)
1. Test full-duplex (10Gbps uplink/downlink simultaneously for a total of 20Gbps). 2. Adopt Arstechnica's methodology. "First we test downloading a 1MB file four times: with 10, then 100, then 1,000, and then 10,000 concurrent clients. Then we do the same with a 100K file and finally with a 10K file. In general, the smaller the filesize, the more punishing the test is likely to be for the router. Smaller filesizes means more and smaller packets, plus more TCP sessions to make and break."
I am curious about the Akitio 10gbe "five speed" product line. They offer both a pcie 3.0 x4 card like this one as well as an external thunderbolt option. They've been on the market some time, and competitively priced, but I've had a hard time finding any detailed feedback about them. It would be great to see one included if you're doing a round up
Don't get me wrong, this is cool and I definitely look forward to availability of new 10Gb RJ45 products coming to the consumer market, but what is the target audience? I see a lot of home lab enthusiasts utilizing used enterprise equipment with 10Gb or SPF+ switches and cards for dirt cheap prices.
i got a teamed 1+1GB link on my NAS, giving me 2 GB up/down, and 1 x 10GB on a few of my servers. I can transfer well up in the high 100's of MB/sec with this no problem from the NAS, and between servers about as fast as the HDD can spit it out.
Target audience is people who need to move a lot of data, or have more than 100 users pushing the network. Do I NEED and can fully utilize the 10GB today? No, but I definitely run the couple of servers I have with lightning speed, and I'm waiting for you unimpressed consumers to adopt it instead of bitching about what you don't think you need. this discussion will be moot this time next year as more and more are coming with 10G connections per default, or use TB3 networking (40GBit).
Could you please write an article regarding the cables and interface for 10 GbE. Fiber, vs cat 6E vs cat7; different types of fiber; SFP+ vs RJ-45; different types of SFP modules.
I'm disappointed by the lack of 2.5/5Gb hardware announcements. The industry was building NBASE-T hardware before the 802.3bz standard was announced. Netgear has a pro-level router on the market. Nobody was ready to announce new gear that's coming, even if it isn't available today? What's with that?
why bet money and time on things that run half or quarter speed? Anything you buy with 2.5/5 is a compromise that will no longer be any point to once the chipsets change generation (and on the server side we are almost there). Screw the 2.5&5, gimmi the full 10G instead.
My personal use case, would be for a NAS on 10GBE serving multiple clients on 1GBE and WiFi. I'd be curious as to what speed benefit 10GBE would provide in that scenario.
well, the benefit would basically be 10x the capacity of your GB link today? so easy math, 8 clients with ggabit speed would get 7 x more data and leave 200% of 1GB link still available.
Also, have you ever wondered how all these AC Wi-Fi is going to be able to run at "full speed" when the backlink maxes out at 1Gbit? What good does AC1800 do you with a gigabit backend? With a 10GB you could run multiple clients at full duplex transfer and still have plenty of capacity left.
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SkiBum1207 - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
"...but at this point in time GIGABYTE is keeping its cards close to its chest."I see what you did there, Ian... :D
shank15217 - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
For 10GbE to "fly off the shelves" there needs to be cheaper/quieter 10GbE switches. 10GbE cards aren't that expensive even now.r3loaded - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
OH YES PLEASE!The crucial bit will be the affordability of 10GbE 4-8 port switches. As long as the price is not stupid, I and many enthusiasts would be willing to pay a decent premium for one.
bcronce - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
I just want a 2.5G switch with 5G uplinks with Layer2 management for less than $600. Is that too much to ask?CaedenV - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
ITS HAPPENING!Cant wait to see more and more 10gig equipment hit the market! Sooooo excited! Just need some cheaper/quieter switches ($4-8 ports for $500 or less), and cards like this for under $100
Notmyusualid - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
At a possible $80/port, just go ahead and build your own switch.You can adds ports one-by-one, as your needs grow.
Or if your enterprise is not that cost constrained, just buy new or refurb 10GE switches as normal.
Refurb is great value for money.
nowayandnohow - Wednesday, January 18, 2017 - link
"Build your own switch" - how do you mean?timbotim - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
10GbE testing. 30GB VM file copy over the network, from \host0\NVMeSSD to \host1\NVMeSSD. Or 20GB. Or 40GB. Please.jgstew - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
I want 10gig ASAP and I'm disappointed in the consumer availability of anything 10gig.Samus - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
It's amazing how you took all those pictures and left out the most important angle...THE PORT.Come on AT, WTH?
phoenix_rizzen - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
It's a standard RJ45 port, why do you need to see pictures of it?vFunct - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
Need to confirm that it is standard RJ-45, instead of ARJ-45 or Tera or GG-45.eldakka - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
The 10GBASE-T standard specifies the 8P8C connector colloquially (tho after my wikipedia investigation, incorrectly) called RJ-45.If it uses an ARJ-45 or Tera or GG-45 connector then it does not meet the specifications of 10GBASE-T, therefore it won't be a 10GBASE-T card.
Sure, it could still be 10G ethernet, but it won't be BASE-T.
nowayandnohow - Wednesday, January 18, 2017 - link
I was actually thinking the same thing... what's the point of posting 8 images of the same side, and not one of the actual port (to see lights, placement, branding, etc)ignoramus_post-truth - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
Suggested testing methodology:1. Test full-duplex (10Gbps uplink/downlink simultaneously for a total of 20Gbps).
2. Adopt Arstechnica's methodology. "First we test downloading a 1MB file four times: with 10, then 100, then 1,000, and then 10,000 concurrent clients. Then we do the same with a 100K file and finally with a 10K file. In general, the smaller the filesize, the more punishing the test is likely to be for the router. Smaller filesizes means more and smaller packets, plus more TCP sessions to make and break."
(see http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/the-router-...
anomalydesign - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
I am curious about the Akitio 10gbe "five speed" product line. They offer both a pcie 3.0 x4 card like this one as well as an external thunderbolt option. They've been on the market some time, and competitively priced, but I've had a hard time finding any detailed feedback about them. It would be great to see one included if you're doing a round upanomalydesign - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
Product page link: https://www.akitio.com/expansion/10g-nbase-t-pcie-...OperativeOcelot - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
Don't get me wrong, this is cool and I definitely look forward to availability of new 10Gb RJ45 products coming to the consumer market, but what is the target audience? I see a lot of home lab enthusiasts utilizing used enterprise equipment with 10Gb or SPF+ switches and cards for dirt cheap prices.nowayandnohow - Wednesday, January 18, 2017 - link
i got a teamed 1+1GB link on my NAS, giving me 2 GB up/down, and 1 x 10GB on a few of my servers. I can transfer well up in the high 100's of MB/sec with this no problem from the NAS, and between servers about as fast as the HDD can spit it out.Target audience is people who need to move a lot of data, or have more than 100 users pushing the network. Do I NEED and can fully utilize the 10GB today? No, but I definitely run the couple of servers I have with lightning speed, and I'm waiting for you unimpressed consumers to adopt it instead of bitching about what you don't think you need. this discussion will be moot this time next year as more and more are coming with 10G connections per default, or use TB3 networking (40GBit).
drajitshnew - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
Could you please write an article regarding the cables and interface for 10 GbE. Fiber, vs cat 6E vs cat7; different types of fiber; SFP+ vs RJ-45; different types of SFP modules.eldakka - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
If someone's trying to sell you cat6E and you buy it, then I've got a bridge you might be interested in too...There is no defined standard that defines cat6e.
There's (in ascending capabilities order) cat5, 5e, 6 and 6A. There is no 6e.
shelbystripes - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
I'm disappointed by the lack of 2.5/5Gb hardware announcements. The industry was building NBASE-T hardware before the 802.3bz standard was announced. Netgear has a pro-level router on the market. Nobody was ready to announce new gear that's coming, even if it isn't available today? What's with that?nowayandnohow - Wednesday, January 18, 2017 - link
why bet money and time on things that run half or quarter speed? Anything you buy with 2.5/5 is a compromise that will no longer be any point to once the chipsets change generation (and on the server side we are almost there). Screw the 2.5&5, gimmi the full 10G instead.doggface - Saturday, January 14, 2017 - link
Hi Ian,My personal use case, would be for a NAS on 10GBE serving multiple clients on 1GBE and WiFi. I'd be curious as to what speed benefit 10GBE would provide in that scenario.
nowayandnohow - Wednesday, January 18, 2017 - link
well, the benefit would basically be 10x the capacity of your GB link today? so easy math, 8 clients with ggabit speed would get 7 x more data and leave 200% of 1GB link still available.Also, have you ever wondered how all these AC Wi-Fi is going to be able to run at "full speed" when the backlink maxes out at 1Gbit? What good does AC1800 do you with a gigabit backend? With a 10GB you could run multiple clients at full duplex transfer and still have plenty of capacity left.