Ask Nvidia if the 16GB model can be upgraded by the user by adding a internal 2.5" HDD or SSD.
Last years model had the sata connector hookups on the PCB, but no connectors, making it impossible to add one.. I'm assuming you can always do USB, but i'd like to be able to add internal and not pay for a $100 upgrade that only adds a $35 hard drive.
Since the article explicitly mentions much of the physical down-size comes from removing the internal 2.5" bay I'm gonna go ahead and guess that they didn't also add the feature for the end user to install a 2.5" drive.
Unless you had (or have?), mad soldering skilz you had about Zero chance of installing a HDD into the old 16Gb version. If anything I'm more p**sed that they removed the Touchpad from the new Gamepad. That to me speaks volumes about them ever bringing it back.
No Dolby Vision and ADroid OS that features Gogle spyware? No sale. HDR10 is garbage compared to Dolby Vision anyway will wait for the LG Blu-Ray that will have streaming apps and Dolby Vision.
Depending on your uses, for a streaming focused device the XBone is *terrible*, utter garbage. I picked up an S for a hopefully someday useful 4K BluRay player and the UI is clunky, cluttered, absurdly sluggish and most importantly the sound..... it's utter trash. Straight up, the lowest price point Chromecast curb stomps the XBoneS for sound quality, MS should be ashamed shipping a console with such putrid options for audio output in 2006(yeah, my point). Supposedly a fix is incoming in a firmware update, maybe, someday; until that point- the Shield outright annihilates the XBone as a streaming device.
Now, the PS4 comparison is a bit better as at least Sony handles trivial functionality OK, and it integrates with modern devices significantly better than the XBone. That said, no streaming 4K HDR content with the PS4- again, Shield wins that battle easily.
If you are looking at Shield as a console replacement it is a tough sell at its price point, but, when you look at it as unquestionably the best consumer streaming device, it makes a lot more sense. On that front, it easily bests the PS4 and the Bone is still trying to match the PS3.
Question is for current nvidia shield owners, will they update the software to have the same capabilities as the OS on the new version? I am very much interested in using amazon video on the old shield. If they make that possible I see no reason for me to have to upgrade to the new version.
Yes, from the reports I've read all the functionality will be coming to the original Shield TV, as long as one buys a new controller with the microphone (the new controller is compatible with the original Shield TV) for the Google Assistant functionality. So there's no reason to buy a new one unless you want it to be smaller.
I think Anandteh needs to recheck its data. The Shield TV (Slim) *cough* 2 Does NOT in fact have an IR Receiver. The agnostic Controller's will come with IR Blasters. For AVR's, and TV's, but the Shield TV Slim will have to get on with either Bluetooth, or WiFi Direct for its input needs.
I don't exactly get the whole polygonal gamer meme they have with game device design these days.
Do they not understand by going with that shape for the controller that it's both uncomfortable (read: not ergonomic) to hold in your hands and that if those ridges are actually recesses, the amount of skin oils/fragments that will collect inside those channels?
Do they just think, "Woah, gamers know games are made from polygons, lets make game devices in polygon shapes because that really appeals to gamers who obviously don't have polygonal hands"?
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Morawka - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Ask Nvidia if the 16GB model can be upgraded by the user by adding a internal 2.5" HDD or SSD.Last years model had the sata connector hookups on the PCB, but no connectors, making it impossible to add one.. I'm assuming you can always do USB, but i'd like to be able to add internal and not pay for a $100 upgrade that only adds a $35 hard drive.
savagemike - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Since the article explicitly mentions much of the physical down-size comes from removing the internal 2.5" bay I'm gonna go ahead and guess that they didn't also add the feature for the end user to install a 2.5" drive.Ichijoe - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Unless you had (or have?), mad soldering skilz you had about Zero chance of installing a HDD into the old 16Gb version. If anything I'm more p**sed that they removed the Touchpad from the new Gamepad. That to me speaks volumes about them ever bringing it back.Flunk - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Sure it can, you just need to put it in a USB enclosure and plug it into a USB port ;).SpartanJet - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
No Dolby Vision and ADroid OS that features Gogle spyware? No sale. HDR10 is garbage compared to Dolby Vision anyway will wait for the LG Blu-Ray that will have streaming apps and Dolby Vision.Flunk - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Android doesn't support Dolby Vision so it's hard to support something the underlying OS doesn't support.nathanddrews - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
All the more reason to avoid it.BillBear - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Did they not update the Tegra X1 at all? I was hoping for at least a die shrink.beginner99 - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
Yeah i don't see why I should pay $200 for this when I can get a PS4/xbox for not much more.BenSkywalker - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
Depending on your uses, for a streaming focused device the XBone is *terrible*, utter garbage. I picked up an S for a hopefully someday useful 4K BluRay player and the UI is clunky, cluttered, absurdly sluggish and most importantly the sound..... it's utter trash. Straight up, the lowest price point Chromecast curb stomps the XBoneS for sound quality, MS should be ashamed shipping a console with such putrid options for audio output in 2006(yeah, my point). Supposedly a fix is incoming in a firmware update, maybe, someday; until that point- the Shield outright annihilates the XBone as a streaming device.Now, the PS4 comparison is a bit better as at least Sony handles trivial functionality OK, and it integrates with modern devices significantly better than the XBone. That said, no streaming 4K HDR content with the PS4- again, Shield wins that battle easily.
If you are looking at Shield as a console replacement it is a tough sell at its price point, but, when you look at it as unquestionably the best consumer streaming device, it makes a lot more sense. On that front, it easily bests the PS4 and the Bone is still trying to match the PS3.
Hxx - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Question is for current nvidia shield owners, will they update the software to have the same capabilities as the OS on the new version? I am very much interested in using amazon video on the old shield. If they make that possible I see no reason for me to have to upgrade to the new version.Yojimbo - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Yes, from the reports I've read all the functionality will be coming to the original Shield TV, as long as one buys a new controller with the microphone (the new controller is compatible with the original Shield TV) for the Google Assistant functionality. So there's no reason to buy a new one unless you want it to be smaller.JohnLemon - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
One error in your specs chart: the new SHIELD (non-pro) does NOT have IR.Yojimbo - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Seems the remote and controller that come with it have an IR blaster for use with TVs but the non-Pro Shield device does not have an IR receiver.Ichijoe - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
I think Anandteh needs to recheck its data. The Shield TV (Slim) *cough* 2Does NOT in fact have an IR Receiver. The agnostic Controller's will come with IR Blasters.
For AVR's, and TV's, but the Shield TV Slim will have to get on with either Bluetooth, or WiFi Direct for its input needs.
JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
I don't exactly get the whole polygonal gamer meme they have with game device design these days.Do they not understand by going with that shape for the controller that it's both uncomfortable (read: not ergonomic) to hold in your hands and that if those ridges are actually recesses, the amount of skin oils/fragments that will collect inside those channels?
Do they just think, "Woah, gamers know games are made from polygons, lets make game devices in polygon shapes because that really appeals to gamers who obviously don't have polygonal hands"?
Hixbot - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
Agreed, that controller looks very uncomfortable.Hixbot - Thursday, January 12, 2017 - link
The hardware should be a close match for the Nintendo Switch, too bad this thing can't play Nintendo games.Mogster - Friday, January 13, 2017 - link
I wonder if the new controller uses Bluetooth instead of Wi-Fi Direct.