On my NV Shield, the game streaming has worked perfectly 99% of the time. Its dependent on where you live and your internet provider, but no issues in CA, NY and TX so far. Dunno about international places.
If this truly works, it'll be ridiculously amazing. The biggest issue I have with my Shield is the unavailability of my existing Steam purchased games. Its the Netflix of gaming.
the fact that is not a monthly fee but "on demand" is going to attract the crowd. I think this was a smart move by Nvidia but yeah , lag will always be an issue.
For single player games, sure, this would work fine. But for anything multiplayer I expect the latency to be far to high for any reasonable competitive play.
Ever hear of 'pay as you go' cell phones? Yeah, they really took off big time, didn't they? People want to OWN the hardware so they can game as much as like without paying rent for it. It's a completely stupid idea, just like renting software is a stupid idea that Microsoft already backed away from. Time sharing computing power is an idea best left in the 1960s.
you only need some people to start the service and I'm sure there are enough rich people who don't want little timmy to build a monstrous computer and will rather pay for this. Then I guess they will adapt prices if this is destined to scale. I'm surprised console makers are behind the curve on this thing though, it's their market getting stolen.
Exactly. If you game 1 hrs per day, that roughly $456 per year ($1.25 per hour) at lowest quality setting which I assume means 30 frames per second. that's almost $1500 (eg a good quality gaming pc) every 3 years and we all now you don't have to replace a PC that often nowadays.
Why? $25 per 20 hrs probably on lowest quality setting. I will be of far cheaper buying a console or for higher quality a PC. The difference between a console and the shield is already less than $200. Even at $250 that would equal only 200hrs of gameplay. If you game 1 hrs per day that will last you for about 6.5 month...
Nvidia spot: lol lets put a bunch of microphones all over the house. You should at least get a tax deduction for so graciously providing the NSA with so much juicy data.
People wowed by this AI car stuff don't get the reality that it isn't a free for all market, but a state by state tightly regulated market that will have a requirement that manufacturers meet certification standards open to all AI providers or not happen, at all.
The fact Nvidia cannot and never will produce a viable Server CPU means they are screwed moving forward in the data center, never mind the money AMD will be pairing Zen with Volta in all OEM and custom build systems.
Volta will be in Mac Pro Volta will be in the next iMac
If Apple dumps the Thunderbolt requirement for USB-C 3.1 it can dumped Intel all together and just use Zen.
I'm not an expert on automotive certification standards, but in the keynote the acronym ASIL was mentioned, I would think anything that meets automotive grade standards should be allowed by various states but IANAL.
I thought for automotive things, it just needs to meet the Federal DOT standard and that's why I have these DOT stampings all over my car frame. Honestly I doubt the state agencies know anything about CPUs, or Zen etc. and will only deal with automotive car models and not the specific parts within them.
This is just my crazy thinking, I think AMD had secret deal with Apple since Apple adopted 'Metal', if this were true Nvidia won't get any deal within Apple lineup in the next 2-3 years.
Uhm, where is AMD Live coverage? Presentation started about 15 mins ago and should be much more interesting that new spyware that we can install at home.
Another failure called GeForce Now. Why the hell do they bother, also for 25$ for 20h is really bad. If it was monthly well maybe but for 20h, hell no. Also i'm sure the lag will be there as always when we use internet for things. Was hoping for 1080i.
What a load of crap. All of it. nVidia is finished in gaming, as AMD already controls >75% of the gaming GPU hardware market (consoles + PC cards). nVidia is just trying to exit the add-in PC board market gracefully and trick their shareholders into believing that they can make up for the gaming revenues they're about to start losing with other products. nVidia's revenues have peaked due to their DX11-oriented hardware, and it's about to start falling with new AMD-powered consoles, and AMD Zen+Vega GPU deals.
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Hxx - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
Those video game stats did not see that coming.realbabilu - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
Creepy as terminator era#softwarewritesoftware
Shadowmaster625 - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
If GeForce Now actually works without lag, then it truly is RIP AMD.nathanddrews - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
It wont. It's not possible.webdoctors - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
On my NV Shield, the game streaming has worked perfectly 99% of the time. Its dependent on where you live and your internet provider, but no issues in CA, NY and TX so far. Dunno about international places.If this truly works, it'll be ridiculously amazing. The biggest issue I have with my Shield is the unavailability of my existing Steam purchased games. Its the Netflix of gaming.
nathanddrews - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
The claim that there is no lag is so false as to be laughable. Also, who would pay over $1/hr to stream games in lower quality than local?Hxx - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
the fact that is not a monthly fee but "on demand" is going to attract the crowd. I think this was a smart move by Nvidia but yeah , lag will always be an issue.negusp - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
For single player games, sure, this would work fine. But for anything multiplayer I expect the latency to be far to high for any reasonable competitive play.anubis44 - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
Ever hear of 'pay as you go' cell phones? Yeah, they really took off big time, didn't they? People want to OWN the hardware so they can game as much as like without paying rent for it. It's a completely stupid idea, just like renting software is a stupid idea that Microsoft already backed away from. Time sharing computing power is an idea best left in the 1960s.Murloc - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
you only need some people to start the service and I'm sure there are enough rich people who don't want little timmy to build a monstrous computer and will rather pay for this.Then I guess they will adapt prices if this is destined to scale. I'm surprised console makers are behind the curve on this thing though, it's their market getting stolen.
beginner99 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Exactly. If you game 1 hrs per day, that roughly $456 per year ($1.25 per hour) at lowest quality setting which I assume means 30 frames per second. that's almost $1500 (eg a good quality gaming pc) every 3 years and we all now you don't have to replace a PC that often nowadays.Meteor2 - Friday, January 6, 2017 - link
...So what you're saying is, it's basically competitive, and you don't have to stump up $1500 first.ianmills - Monday, January 9, 2017 - link
I guess this whole service is just a teaser for real geforce hardware, especially since they plan to charge more for better graphicsanubis44 - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
A mouth-breathing nVidiot, that's who.fingerbob69 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
It would cost me $75 a WEEK to use this service at current pricing!I should get out more.
beginner99 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Why? $25 per 20 hrs probably on lowest quality setting. I will be of far cheaper buying a console or for higher quality a PC. The difference between a console and the shield is already less than $200. Even at $250 that would equal only 200hrs of gameplay. If you game 1 hrs per day that will last you for about 6.5 month...medi03 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Yeah, at 25$ for 20 hours of PC gaming what a steal.Not only AMD, RIP Sony and Microsoft too.
Oh, and Intel for that matter.
/sarcasm
anubis44 - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
It won't work without lag. RIP nVidia.Hxx - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
NVidia spot is creepy as hell. Should be called NVidia "spy" lolShadowmaster625 - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
Nvidia spot: lol lets put a bunch of microphones all over the house. You should at least get a tax deduction for so graciously providing the NSA with so much juicy data.beginner99 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
your smartphone has one as well....and it's online all the time as well...pixelstuff - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
Well that's two years in a row that nVidia has WOW'd me.mdriftmeyer - Wednesday, January 4, 2017 - link
People wowed by this AI car stuff don't get the reality that it isn't a free for all market, but a state by state tightly regulated market that will have a requirement that manufacturers meet certification standards open to all AI providers or not happen, at all.The fact Nvidia cannot and never will produce a viable Server CPU means they are screwed moving forward in the data center, never mind the money AMD will be pairing Zen with Volta in all OEM and custom build systems.
Volta will be in Mac Pro
Volta will be in the next iMac
If Apple dumps the Thunderbolt requirement for USB-C 3.1 it can dumped Intel all together and just use Zen.
Friends at Intel know this as well.
Nvidia has peaked.
webdoctors - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
I'm not an expert on automotive certification standards, but in the keynote the acronym ASIL was mentioned, I would think anything that meets automotive grade standards should be allowed by various states but IANAL.I thought for automotive things, it just needs to meet the Federal DOT standard and that's why I have these DOT stampings all over my car frame. Honestly I doubt the state agencies know anything about CPUs, or Zen etc. and will only deal with automotive car models and not the specific parts within them.
Muromets - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
I disagree with "...never will produce a viable Server CPU means they are screwed moving forward in the data center". There is a strong demand for NVidia cards fromthe leading Cloud computing players, specifically from AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/Elastic-GPUs and Microsoft: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-n-ser...WorldWithoutMadness - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
This is just my crazy thinking, I think AMD had secret deal with Apple since Apple adopted 'Metal', if this were true Nvidia won't get any deal within Apple lineup in the next 2-3 years.Michael Bay - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
AMD can`t either, and still it`s afloat so far.HollyDOL - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
While interesting I would have hoped in at least some news about 1080Ti. My current card really starts to show its age...yannigr2 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
$25 for 20hrs of playAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Really? Hilarious.
Visual - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
It could maybe work if you didn't have to buy the games as well - kind of like a rental.beginner99 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Yeah. Then it might be viable because you can try a game first before actually paying $60 for being an alpha-tester.yannigr2 - Friday, January 6, 2017 - link
Pay $25 to test a game? Brilliant. Nvidia's shareholders love you.MrSpadge - Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - link
Only if your test takes 20h - in which case you seem pretty satisfied with the game.halcyon - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
The spot is like Amazon echo, like Google Home, like Lenovo/Alexa assistant and whatever Samsung/LG offer.A huge privacy/security hole and 100% guaranteed to be NSA x-keyscore databased.
Say hello to that black van or predator drone near you :-D
Murloc - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
there will be open source solutions for privacy conscious people who want these devices and have some tech skills.Personally I just feel weird enough talking on the phone already, talking to a robot would be too out there.
helvete - Friday, February 3, 2017 - link
Cannot agree more..beginner99 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Those smart TVs are scary close to 1984...I would actually pay $ to have these features removed.beginner99 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
What I would want is a large 4k OLED screen that does nothing else but displays the input it gets.Michael Bay - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Buy chink brands then, like Telefunken or something. It will be a little barebones though.Meteor2 - Friday, January 6, 2017 - link
Like your telephone and tablet and laptop and...medi03 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Uhm, where is AMD Live coverage? Presentation started about 15 mins ago and should be much more interesting that new spyware that we can install at home.Michael Bay - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
AMD dreams about the day when it can offer you a market viable spyware. That they have to peddle subpar CPUs and ovenlike GPUs instead is a tragedy.fanofanand - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Thank you for posting chronologically!stardude82 - Thursday, January 5, 2017 - link
Do you member OnLive? I member.Streaming services like this sound neat, but good enough hardware, like an Xbox One, just isn't that expensive.
vampyren - Friday, January 6, 2017 - link
Another failure called GeForce Now. Why the hell do they bother, also for 25$ for 20h is really bad. If it was monthly well maybe but for 20h, hell no. Also i'm sure the lag will be there as always when we use internet for things. Was hoping for 1080i.Michael Bay - Friday, January 6, 2017 - link
They all are desperate for growth market, every last one of them. Why they go for obvious gimmicks in their search is anybodys guess.anubis44 - Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - link
What a load of crap. All of it. nVidia is finished in gaming, as AMD already controls >75% of the gaming GPU hardware market (consoles + PC cards). nVidia is just trying to exit the add-in PC board market gracefully and trick their shareholders into believing that they can make up for the gaming revenues they're about to start losing with other products. nVidia's revenues have peaked due to their DX11-oriented hardware, and it's about to start falling with new AMD-powered consoles, and AMD Zen+Vega GPU deals.helvete - Friday, February 3, 2017 - link
"10:22PM EST - 'We can teach a car to drive by watching a human driver'"That is I am most worried about