Why all Thunderbolt 3 docks have one USB-C output port? I need a TH3 dock with 3 USB-C ports in additional of one TH3 output port ( to be used with Phone, Tablet, Storage, Monitor and so on)
Probably a combination of cost/bandwidth management. If you max out the video outputs, you've only got a single USB3-C ports worth of bandwidth left for everything else. Requiring anyone wanting to run multiple devices to provide a separate hub makes the limitation obvious. Only providing native support for a single downstream C port might also be a limitation of whoever is making the underlying controller chip. At the start of this year there was only one company selling a product in the space - their screwing the pooch on thermals killed the gen 1 TB3 docks Dell/HP launched at the start of the year, and presumably kept other companies (*cough*Apple and etc*cough*) from launching them at all. TB3 daisy chaining is a lot less practical in practice than theory in that the line between devices needing enough bandwidth to need TB3 instead of USB3.1g2 and devices capable of using enough bandwidth to cripple anything else in a daisychain is too narrow. (If you can saturate a 10Gb USB link and thus benefit directly from TB's higher bandwidth, you're already using >25% of the total.)
Can we have a dock with 2x DP; each on it's own stream? It's impossble to connect 2x 4k@60hz monitors without extra converters/dongles.
Ideal Dock (for me) 2x DP 1x GBit Ethernet 2x USB 3.1 G2 Type-C 2x USB 3.0 Type-A 1x Headphone out
That's it. Have not seen one. I can't even find a way to connect 2x 4k@60hz monitors to 1x TB3 port on the nMBP, as the current adapters are only compatible with Windows. Until then, no MacBook Pro for me.
If a laptop has USB 3 Type C but not Thunderbolt, can it still use the Thunderbolt dock but with reduced functionality? Say, only two monitors at a time, no HDMI, etc?
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adamto - Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - link
Why all Thunderbolt 3 docks have one USB-C output port? I need a TH3 dock with 3 USB-C ports in additional of one TH3 output port ( to be used with Phone, Tablet, Storage, Monitor and so on)DanNeely - Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - link
Probably a combination of cost/bandwidth management. If you max out the video outputs, you've only got a single USB3-C ports worth of bandwidth left for everything else. Requiring anyone wanting to run multiple devices to provide a separate hub makes the limitation obvious. Only providing native support for a single downstream C port might also be a limitation of whoever is making the underlying controller chip. At the start of this year there was only one company selling a product in the space - their screwing the pooch on thermals killed the gen 1 TB3 docks Dell/HP launched at the start of the year, and presumably kept other companies (*cough*Apple and etc*cough*) from launching them at all. TB3 daisy chaining is a lot less practical in practice than theory in that the line between devices needing enough bandwidth to need TB3 instead of USB3.1g2 and devices capable of using enough bandwidth to cripple anything else in a daisychain is too narrow. (If you can saturate a 10Gb USB link and thus benefit directly from TB's higher bandwidth, you're already using >25% of the total.)cl114c0777498d - Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - link
Looks really good in general. If they had launched an external gpu enclosure/dock they would have probably kept me as a customer.bill44 - Thursday, December 29, 2016 - link
Can we have a dock with 2x DP; each on it's own stream?It's impossble to connect 2x 4k@60hz monitors without extra converters/dongles.
Ideal Dock (for me)
2x DP
1x GBit Ethernet
2x USB 3.1 G2 Type-C
2x USB 3.0 Type-A
1x Headphone out
That's it. Have not seen one. I can't even find a way to connect 2x 4k@60hz monitors to 1x TB3 port on the nMBP, as the current adapters are only compatible with Windows. Until then, no MacBook Pro for me.
rob89353 - Saturday, December 31, 2016 - link
So both docks use the same connector.If a laptop has USB 3 Type C but not Thunderbolt, can it still use the Thunderbolt dock but with reduced functionality? Say, only two monitors at a time, no HDMI, etc?
PaulBraren - Saturday, February 18, 2017 - link
Seems mine will finally arrive around March 1, should be interesting to test with my 4K Dell Precision 5510's USB-C. https://TinkerTry.com/booting-your-windows-10-from...