Have to say I agree with the below though - that if you require a 'professional workstation' why would you care it's size? I guess there may be a tiny minority that also require portability of a workstation? Can't imagine it being a market worth creating a device like this for. Who knows,
Those I know who want portability and power in one machine tend to get a large desktop-replacement-style laptop and a docking station at their desk. (I thought combining the two was pointless so got a traditional Xeon workstation and an Atom 10" 2-in-1 for travel).
It's USB 3.1 Gen. 1, basically same as USB 3 ( 5gbps )... I think what he meant is Gen. 2 ( 10gbps ) which is not supported as far as the slide shows go...
I don't get the point of a "mini-sized professional workstation". If you need a professional workstation, why would you care how large it is? It's going to sit under your desk anyway, and it's not like a full tower consumes that much space. Why wouldn't a professional engineer or designer get a normal size workstation with top of the line components?
You need a large case if you have heavy graphics cards and lots of storage. Many workstation users don't need fancy graphics (e.g. coders), and M.2 NVMe storage requires much less space. I would have preferred 2 M.2 slots myself, but it's still an attractive product.
This isn't for users; this is aimed at corporate/NMSO customers who are looking to shrink their desktop footprint, but still have some upgrade room available. We sell a lot of the HP and Lenovo Tiny/USFF machines, but users that want more power have to go to a SFF/tower desktop in order to have non-integrated video, while staying inside of their contract/lease requirements. This allows them to stay with the VoR, *and* reduce the size of machines they are buying. Do not underestimate the importance of perceived additions to their "corporate responsibilities" (lower power consumption, etc).
I need exactly that a xeon mini pc for running virtual machines at my house. I want something that I can leave on 24/7 and not have to worry about power consumption. Space is also an issue need to tuc it away on a bookshelf in the garage.
Yeah, my Skull Canyon NUC is smaller and fits in my sling bag for transport between home and offices, has two M.2 slots I have configured for hardware encryption (SED) and hardware RAID 1 with, plus has Thunderbolt 3 which I can plug into my Razer Core when I need to. Sorry HP.
True, but you still need a C2xx chipset and a motherboard with the necessary traces for the parity bits for that, even though the memory controller is in the CPU.
I've had my fill of HP. After one year, they stopped supporting its little SOHO MicroServer Gen8 without an expensive maintenance agreement. They are denying me security, platform, and firmware stability fixes for a product I paid for. HP...never again.
Cisco is the worst for this. Every file and document for even 15 year old obsolete equipment is behind a support agreement paywall. One organization I worked for HAD an agreement, but because it was purchased from a reseller, ONLY THE RESELLER was given access and we had to call the reseller and grovel whenever we needed an update.
Minor correction in the second paragraph... "...subtle and discrete." You mean "discreet", as in "unobtrusive, unnoticeable", not "discrete", which means "separate and different from each other"
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jackpro - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
No thunderbolt 3?MattMe - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
Not even USB 3.1 on the type C ports. Shame...Have to say I agree with the below though - that if you require a 'professional workstation' why would you care it's size? I guess there may be a tiny minority that also require portability of a workstation? Can't imagine it being a market worth creating a device like this for. Who knows,
stephenbrooks - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
Those I know who want portability and power in one machine tend to get a large desktop-replacement-style laptop and a docking station at their desk. (I thought combining the two was pointless so got a traditional Xeon workstation and an Atom 10" 2-in-1 for travel).Mday - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
The USB C ports are 3.1. It's a typo\mistake in the article. The specs are shown in the slideshow.Xajel - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
It's USB 3.1 Gen. 1, basically same as USB 3 ( 5gbps )... I think what he meant is Gen. 2 ( 10gbps ) which is not supported as far as the slide shows go...willis936 - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
That will be one toasty little breadbox.dsumanik - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
Still better than A Mac mini at half the pricep1esk - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
I don't get the point of a "mini-sized professional workstation". If you need a professional workstation, why would you care how large it is? It's going to sit under your desk anyway, and it's not like a full tower consumes that much space. Why wouldn't a professional engineer or designer get a normal size workstation with top of the line components?SaolDan - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
agreeshabby - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
Its for wannabe professional hipsters.fazalmajid - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
You need a large case if you have heavy graphics cards and lots of storage. Many workstation users don't need fancy graphics (e.g. coders), and M.2 NVMe storage requires much less space. I would have preferred 2 M.2 slots myself, but it's still an attractive product.bigboxes - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
They need something to prop up their CRT.blakeatwork - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
This isn't for users; this is aimed at corporate/NMSO customers who are looking to shrink their desktop footprint, but still have some upgrade room available. We sell a lot of the HP and Lenovo Tiny/USFF machines, but users that want more power have to go to a SFF/tower desktop in order to have non-integrated video, while staying inside of their contract/lease requirements. This allows them to stay with the VoR, *and* reduce the size of machines they are buying. Do not underestimate the importance of perceived additions to their "corporate responsibilities" (lower power consumption, etc).ivan256 - Friday, November 18, 2016 - link
Lots of "professional workstations" are getting moved to NUCs. The trend is towards reducing square footage per employee, so size matters.And in open floor plan office spaces, aesthetics matter too.
nerd1 - Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - link
Way better than "professional laptop with crappy keyboard and no ports"anonanonanon - Friday, December 30, 2016 - link
I need exactly that a xeon mini pc for running virtual machines at my house. I want something that I can leave on 24/7 and not have to worry about power consumption. Space is also an issue need to tuc it away on a bookshelf in the garage.hubick - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
Yeah, my Skull Canyon NUC is smaller and fits in my sling bag for transport between home and offices, has two M.2 slots I have configured for hardware encryption (SED) and hardware RAID 1 with, plus has Thunderbolt 3 which I can plug into my Razer Core when I need to. Sorry HP.fazalmajid - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
No Xeon support means no ECC memorySamus - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
Core i3 supports ECC.azrael- - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
True, but you still need a C2xx chipset and a motherboard with the necessary traces for the parity bits for that, even though the memory controller is in the CPU.jsntech - Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - link
HP, proprietary motherboard...good luck.I've had my fill of HP. After one year, they stopped supporting its little SOHO MicroServer Gen8 without an expensive maintenance agreement. They are denying me security, platform, and firmware stability fixes for a product I paid for. HP...never again.
Pessimism - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
Cisco is the worst for this. Every file and document for even 15 year old obsolete equipment is behind a support agreement paywall. One organization I worked for HAD an agreement, but because it was purchased from a reseller, ONLY THE RESELLER was given access and we had to call the reseller and grovel whenever we needed an update.kgardas - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
Nice try HP! What makes me curious is why you don't support max RAM supported by available CPUs, i.e. 64GB when you do in your workstation laptops...CharonPDX - Thursday, November 17, 2016 - link
Minor correction in the second paragraph... "...subtle and discrete." You mean "discreet", as in "unobtrusive, unnoticeable", not "discrete", which means "separate and different from each other"DougDolde - Monday, July 10, 2017 - link
Why no 1 TB SSD? 512GB is not enoughDougDolde - Thursday, October 4, 2018 - link
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