it's that the front or the back? if it's the front, why is there the power plug and the ethernet port on the front?! if that's the back, why is the SD card reader, the headphone jack, the power button, the BT button and USB ports on the back?
vFunct's comment below: "Can Samsung ever do anything besides copy Apple non-stop 100% of the time?"
I'll leave the debate over whether the statement is valid or not to more interested parties, but it looks like your prediction was at least half correct.
Hello fafan. The idiots thinking apple invented Cylindrical PC. Apple Mac Pro copycat from SFF Cylindrical PC (2005). Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is the founding father of copying.This article seems to lack research. Maybe you need to be educated a little more. Stop ur FAKE propaganda.
In fact, Apple invented the Exploding Phone!. There are plenty of reports recently about iPhone 5, 6 and 7 explosions as well (2014-2016). But they are no news about that. Apple media (USA) are very good at masking Apple problems. Check out Google "iPhone fire" (100 news..).
I don't think the point has never been if Apple really invented something from "0" because nobody has ever done that and copying is no bad per se. Every master learned copying first. I think the point is at what level you copy an idea, if you improve over the original and if you added distinctive features to make it your own. If a company or person is too literal it is a copy if they add their very own flavor and functionality it is a valid design.
I always used a Mac but also PCs and I don't mind or care if Samsung copied Apple's Mac Pro, what I observe is the HC speaker on top as I don't like it being permanent and even less running on batteries, and as many here I don't know if the connector panel make complete sense. Other than that I like the general concept.
Also I don't think it is great to offer 9xx Nvidia options, I will asume 10xx series will be offered.
Sign... the SFF computer was just a regular normal case which happened to be round. With the cylindrical Mac Pro, they have completely reorganised the inside of the case, using a central cooling tunnel with oversized fans and placing the components on its sides, with heatsinks facing inwards. The Mac Pro is first and foremost a novel cooling solution. I am not aware of anyone who did something like that before. So yes, Apple was first with it and then others started copying their design more or less 1-to-1.
You would think they just invented another machine that can catch fire. Washing Machines and Mobile phones aren't enough!
Honestly though, I've seen temp. benchmarks for the MSI vortex and the Apple Mac pro. They seem to have very tame temps for high load scenarios. This one has a Radeon RX460, so I doubly doubt that thermals will ever be a problem here.
It doesn't change the fact that Samsung is only doing this because Apple decided to do it. Yes, Apple wasn't the first, they're never the first, but when they do choose to do something that is the point Samsung also chooses to do it. It's total cause-and-effect, Apple being completely original isn't relevant to the conversation.
There is no denying the uncanny timing of Samsung releasing Apple lookalike products in a very short period after Apple releases them. Considering they aren't even in the desktop PC market (aside from laptops and all in ones) making their first stand alone desktop look similar to Apples desktop is just typical at this point.
That's literally exactly what Samsung wants you to think. Apple's brand is probably the most valuable brand in the world. Samsung loves being compared to them.
They came out with s-pen, multi window, power saving mode many other things/features/hardware components, which got copied in apple. Everyone takes idea from everyone else, what to do and what not to. I think this happens in all professions, you take inspiration from world, nothing is original.
The later two options were already native to the android UI and kernel, and the stylus is just one of those anomalies. I get it, to some degree, but unless you are an artist it feels like going backwards to use one. I hate writing stuff. Sketching is another story, but I don't see myself doing so on a 6" screen.
I can't wait some Samsung to throw a trackball back in a phone and have people claim they invented that too, when the very first android phone, before Android was even suppose to support a touch interface, had a trackball. The venerable HTC G1.
Why don't people stick to the things Samsung actually did innovate. Legitimately. I'm sure there is one.
The idiots thinking apple invented Cylindrical PC. Apple Mac Pro copycat from SFF Cylindrical PC (2005). Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is the founding father of copying.This article seems to lack research. Maybe you need to be educated a little more. Stop ur FAKE propaganda.
Samsung just needs to stop copying Apple all the time.
All they ever do is copy, copy, copy. They do not come up with anything original like Apple does.
Why can't Samsung ever come up with something original? Are their customers too poor to afford something original? Or maybe they just don't have the talent to come up with something new like Apple does?
Well, in the press pictures the speaker has some sort of locking switch on it, so it probably comes off, which would make the batteries make (some?) sense. 3xAA batteries in a remote would be insane.
I'm guessing the speaker moves around because who the heck would want your PC in the middle of your desk to get 'balanced' audio (getting in the way of your screen) or would want audio from a single speaker off to one side, where you'd inevitably end up putting a cylinder?
I'm sure it's not inconvenient at all to insert an SD card in that slot between power, Ethernet and video cables. Can Samsung at least copy something from Apple that makes sense? Oh, wait...
If my "analysis" of the over-compressed product shots is correct, at least the USB-A port next to the type-C is 10Gbps - it has an extra squiggle in the top right of its USB logo which the other three lack, consistent with the "10" in the top right of the official USB 3.1G2 logo from the USB-IF. On the other hand, all the ports use non-standard labeling, lacking any "SS" superspeed branding, so for all we know they might be 2.0.
The type-C port next to this seems to have the same logo, except for what seems to be a "C" wrapped around the left end of the logo. No idea what this means - do they really need to indicate that "hey guys, this is a type-C port!"? One might think that's pretty obvious given that it looks radically different from any other USB port.
Also, what were Samsung thinking with that design? The bottom 9/10 of this looks nice - I even like the slightly awkward split thingie, which gives some character and differentiation to it. But those baffles on the top ... well, baffle me.
Wait ... what is that lock switch on the back? Is the speaker part removable? I can't really decide if that's cool or awful. If it runs off AAA batteries, though ... Ugh.
The idiots thinking apple invented Cylindrical PC. Apple Mac Pro copycat from SFF Cylindrical PC (2005). Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is the founding father of copying.This article seems to lack research. Maybe you need to be educated a little more.
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zmeul - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
it's that the front or the back?if it's the front, why is there the power plug and the ethernet port on the front?!
if that's the back, why is the SD card reader, the headphone jack, the power button, the BT button and USB ports on the back?
lazarpandar - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
I'm willing to bet that that's the back.close - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
I'm willing to bet that plenty of people now think that Apple invented the cylinder and Samsung is just copying...HunterKlynn - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Don't cut yourself on that edge, man.BurntMyBacon - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
vFunct's comment below: "Can Samsung ever do anything besides copy Apple non-stop 100% of the time?"I'll leave the debate over whether the statement is valid or not to more interested parties, but it looks like your prediction was at least half correct.
fafan - Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - link
You cannot blame Samsung that they only copy Apple 100%. Give them some credit man! They are original too!Samsung invented the Exploding Phone!
Nallaikkumaran - Saturday, October 15, 2016 - link
Hello fafan. The idiots thinking apple invented Cylindrical PC. Apple Mac Pro copycat from SFF Cylindrical PC (2005). Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is the founding father of copying.This article seems to lack research. Maybe you need to be educated a little more. Stop ur FAKE propaganda.In fact, Apple invented the Exploding Phone!. There are plenty of reports recently about iPhone 5, 6 and 7 explosions as well (2014-2016). But they are no news about that. Apple media (USA) are very good at masking Apple problems. Check out Google "iPhone fire" (100 news..).
jecs - Monday, October 17, 2016 - link
I don't think the point has never been if Apple really invented something from "0" because nobody has ever done that and copying is no bad per se. Every master learned copying first. I think the point is at what level you copy an idea, if you improve over the original and if you added distinctive features to make it your own. If a company or person is too literal it is a copy if they add their very own flavor and functionality it is a valid design.I always used a Mac but also PCs and I don't mind or care if Samsung copied Apple's Mac Pro, what I observe is the HC speaker on top as I don't like it being permanent and even less running on batteries, and as many here I don't know if the connector panel make complete sense. Other than that I like the general concept.
Also I don't think it is great to offer 9xx Nvidia options, I will asume 10xx series will be offered.
misan - Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - link
Sign... the SFF computer was just a regular normal case which happened to be round. With the cylindrical Mac Pro, they have completely reorganised the inside of the case, using a central cooling tunnel with oversized fans and placing the components on its sides, with heatsinks facing inwards. The Mac Pro is first and foremost a novel cooling solution. I am not aware of anyone who did something like that before. So yes, Apple was first with it and then others started copying their design more or less 1-to-1.bronan - Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - link
SIGH, no apple is a copy cat no matter what you claim.bigboxes - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Exactly what I was thinking. Stupid design.BurntMyBacon - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
Samsung branding just above the ports. Looks like they see that as the front to me.Ro_Ja - Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - link
I don't remember an i7 6600 but I think the author is talking about the i7 6600U or i5 6600K? because the 6600U is just Dual CoreIdBuRnS - Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - link
Yea, why on Earth is the power plug on the front? What a stupid design decision.TheinsanegamerN - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
So how long until these things catch fire due to poor cooling?SeleniumGlow - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
You would think they just invented another machine that can catch fire. Washing Machines and Mobile phones aren't enough!Honestly though, I've seen temp. benchmarks for the MSI vortex and the Apple Mac pro. They seem to have very tame temps for high load scenarios. This one has a Radeon RX460, so I doubly doubt that thermals will ever be a problem here.
damianrobertjones - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
It would have looked nice if not for the top....Plus you'll have problems with it that Samsung will NEVER, EVER, EVER fix. Buy Samsung and you've a 50/50 for support.
coit - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
Can't you see it's an omni-directional coaxial speaker?vFunct - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Can Samsung ever do anything besides copy Apple non-stop 100% of the time?damianrobertjones - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
I'm positive that Apple are NOT the first company to make a round case/cylinder.lazarpandar - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
It doesn't change the fact that Samsung is only doing this because Apple decided to do it. Yes, Apple wasn't the first, they're never the first, but when they do choose to do something that is the point Samsung also chooses to do it. It's total cause-and-effect, Apple being completely original isn't relevant to the conversation.Samus - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
There is no denying the uncanny timing of Samsung releasing Apple lookalike products in a very short period after Apple releases them. Considering they aren't even in the desktop PC market (aside from laptops and all in ones) making their first stand alone desktop look similar to Apples desktop is just typical at this point.bigboxes - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Apple & Samsung = the samelazarpandar - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
That's literally exactly what Samsung wants you to think.Apple's brand is probably the most valuable brand in the world. Samsung loves being compared to them.
bigboxes - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
Why do you love a company? I don't.[email protected] - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
They came out with s-pen, multi window, power saving mode many other things/features/hardware components, which got copied in apple. Everyone takes idea from everyone else, what to do and what not to. I think this happens in all professions, you take inspiration from world, nothing is original.vanilla_gorilla - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
You think Samsung invented tablet pen input, multiple window OS and power saving mode for a computer? I want some of what you're smoking.Samus - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
The later two options were already native to the android UI and kernel, and the stylus is just one of those anomalies. I get it, to some degree, but unless you are an artist it feels like going backwards to use one. I hate writing stuff. Sketching is another story, but I don't see myself doing so on a 6" screen.I can't wait some Samsung to throw a trackball back in a phone and have people claim they invented that too, when the very first android phone, before Android was even suppose to support a touch interface, had a trackball. The venerable HTC G1.
Why don't people stick to the things Samsung actually did innovate. Legitimately. I'm sure there is one.
Nallaikkumaran - Saturday, October 15, 2016 - link
The idiots thinking apple invented Cylindrical PC. Apple Mac Pro copycat from SFF Cylindrical PC (2005). Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is the founding father of copying.This article seems to lack research. Maybe you need to be educated a little more. Stop ur FAKE propaganda.vFunct - Saturday, October 15, 2016 - link
Samsung just needs to stop copying Apple all the time.All they ever do is copy, copy, copy. They do not come up with anything original like Apple does.
Why can't Samsung ever come up with something original? Are their customers too poor to afford something original? Or maybe they just don't have the talent to come up with something new like Apple does?
evilspoons - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Well, in the press pictures the speaker has some sort of locking switch on it, so it probably comes off, which would make the batteries make (some?) sense. 3xAA batteries in a remote would be insane.I'm guessing the speaker moves around because who the heck would want your PC in the middle of your desk to get 'balanced' audio (getting in the way of your screen) or would want audio from a single speaker off to one side, where you'd inevitably end up putting a cylinder?
BobSwi - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Looks like a bomb to me.negusp - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Awfully ugly bomb, for a bomb, which is undoubtedly a bomb.dsraa - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Looks stupid.....like a camping lantern.....Now I want to go camping.....hey I bet it even starts fires for you!!! lolhp79 - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
No fire, but I agree it really looks stupid.It may work for a niche market, but then they should have done a better job at hiding the cables.
Zak - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
I'm sure it's not inconvenient at all to insert an SD card in that slot between power, Ethernet and video cables. Can Samsung at least copy something from Apple that makes sense? Oh, wait...gammaray - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Why so expensive??spookym - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
That reminds me a lot of B.I.C. Soundspan TPR-200 speakers from the 70s-80s.Samus - Monday, October 10, 2016 - link
Hahaha omfg really Samsung? Really!?HollyDOL - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
In the table, I think"Intel Core i7-6600
4C/8T, 3.4 GHz
65W"
should be i7-6700
Valantar - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
If my "analysis" of the over-compressed product shots is correct, at least the USB-A port next to the type-C is 10Gbps - it has an extra squiggle in the top right of its USB logo which the other three lack, consistent with the "10" in the top right of the official USB 3.1G2 logo from the USB-IF. On the other hand, all the ports use non-standard labeling, lacking any "SS" superspeed branding, so for all we know they might be 2.0.The type-C port next to this seems to have the same logo, except for what seems to be a "C" wrapped around the left end of the logo. No idea what this means - do they really need to indicate that "hey guys, this is a type-C port!"? One might think that's pretty obvious given that it looks radically different from any other USB port.
Also, what were Samsung thinking with that design? The bottom 9/10 of this looks nice - I even like the slightly awkward split thingie, which gives some character and differentiation to it. But those baffles on the top ... well, baffle me.
Valantar - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
Wait ... what is that lock switch on the back? Is the speaker part removable? I can't really decide if that's cool or awful. If it runs off AAA batteries, though ... Ugh.WinterCharm - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
Does it catch fire, too?Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - link
A very efficient design. They are maximizing the blast radius.Nallaikkumaran - Saturday, October 15, 2016 - link
The idiots thinking apple invented Cylindrical PC. Apple Mac Pro copycat from SFF Cylindrical PC (2005). Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is the founding father of copying.This article seems to lack research. Maybe you need to be educated a little more.damianrobertjones - Monday, October 17, 2016 - link
Shhh! Stop it. Reviewers and people are not supposed to know this stuff. /s