The bezel on the Swift 5 is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. A super thin bezel at the sides and top, but a massive ACER logo on the bottom... I mean, hurry up and just use a 16:10 panel already! It defies logic.
Hmm I guess that could work. I interpreted it as complaining purely about the massive logo on the bottom; of course Apple has 16:10 going for them though.
This is great now that Kaby lake is launching and all but I'm waiting on the Surface Book 2 announcement. The Skylake bugs in the current one makes me a bit squeamish about buying it, plus I need sc cams so a new laptop is taking a back seat for now.
They're still not dead yet. We're very, very close, but for mass storage where speed doesn't matter, they're still relevant...but only barely. That caveat covers a lot of use cases, but rightfully should exclude laptops.
I don't know anything about LSPCon, but I can say that this early batch of Kaby Lake mobile chips only have HDMI 1.4 support.
A refresh is coming out in early 2017, when the other higher power Kaby Lake chips come out too, and it is supposed to support HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, so best wait till after then.
I believe this is incorrect. The Kaby Lake chips coming out in January will support HDMI 2.0 via the new 270 chipset, not the CPU. AFAIK no Kaby Lake CPU's contain HDMI 2.0/HDCP2.2 support; it's the new chipset that does. These mobile Kaby Lake laptops do not contain the updated chipset.
But full bandwidth 18Gbps can be enabled on the DP1.2 display path with the use of an LSPCon converter to HDMI (either internal or external). Since these laptops have no displayport output the only possibility (a long shot) would be an internal LSPCon in front of that HDMI port (one can only hope). Otherwise, the other option is to wait for a Kabylake laptop like this with a displayport connector and use an external LSPCon (like the club3D adapter covered previously here on anandtech).
You can clearly see in the photo galleries the Swift 1, 3, and 5 have barrel jacks (left, back on 1,3, right, back on 5). The Swift 7 has USB-C charging because it has no other ports in the images and it's really slim ("Macbook-ish") and also the same charge icon next to all the barrel jacks is next to the USB Type-C port in the images.
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Sent1nel - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
The bezel on the Swift 5 is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. A super thin bezel at the sides and top, but a massive ACER logo on the bottom... I mean, hurry up and just use a 16:10 panel already! It defies logic.kfleszar - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
This is so common among the PC (non-Apple) laptops. It is about saving a few % on cost at the expense of the user experience.Drumsticks - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
That narrative sounds nice, but Apple isn't exactly providing ultra thin bezels on their units either.vanilla_gorilla - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Pssst ... he's talking about 16:10 panels not the bezels.Drumsticks - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Hmm I guess that could work. I interpreted it as complaining purely about the massive logo on the bottom; of course Apple has 16:10 going for them though.Dahak - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Well it could be worse, you could get the nase(nose) cam you get on the dell xps. Never personally used it but from what i heardDahak - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
nasal.... dang need edit buttonTams80 - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
I'd prefer 16:10 too.However, does having thin bezels have something to do with the thick bottom bezel perhaps? More LEDs required there, or something?
Manch - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
This is great now that Kaby lake is launching and all but I'm waiting on the Surface Book 2 announcement. The Skylake bugs in the current one makes me a bit squeamish about buying it, plus I need sc cams so a new laptop is taking a back seat for now.Michael Bay - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Are obscure bugs when raping the silicon with prime95 really that relevant?Shadowmaster625 - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Are 5400RPM HDDs finally dead?Manch - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Good God, lets hope so!!BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
They're still not dead yet. We're very, very close, but for mass storage where speed doesn't matter, they're still relevant...but only barely. That caveat covers a lot of use cases, but rightfully should exclude laptops.maglito - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Can you guys find out if the HDMI on these (specifically the swift5) has on board LSPCon to enable full HDMI 2.0 (2160p @60Hz).Thanks!
shortcircuit2020 - Thursday, September 1, 2016 - link
I don't know anything about LSPCon, but I can say that this early batch of Kaby Lake mobile chips only have HDMI 1.4 support.A refresh is coming out in early 2017, when the other higher power Kaby Lake chips come out too, and it is supposed to support HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, so best wait till after then.
Kakti - Thursday, September 1, 2016 - link
I believe this is incorrect. The Kaby Lake chips coming out in January will support HDMI 2.0 via the new 270 chipset, not the CPU. AFAIK no Kaby Lake CPU's contain HDMI 2.0/HDCP2.2 support; it's the new chipset that does. These mobile Kaby Lake laptops do not contain the updated chipset.maglito - Friday, September 2, 2016 - link
But full bandwidth 18Gbps can be enabled on the DP1.2 display path with the use of an LSPCon converter to HDMI (either internal or external). Since these laptops have no displayport output the only possibility (a long shot) would be an internal LSPCon in front of that HDMI port (one can only hope). Otherwise, the other option is to wait for a Kabylake laptop like this with a displayport connector and use an external LSPCon (like the club3D adapter covered previously here on anandtech).wicketr - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Do they use standard USB-C for charging? Or custom charging cables? Also, what's the resolution on the Switft 5?evilspoons - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
You can clearly see in the photo galleries the Swift 1, 3, and 5 have barrel jacks (left, back on 1,3, right, back on 5). The Swift 7 has USB-C charging because it has no other ports in the images and it's really slim ("Macbook-ish") and also the same charge icon next to all the barrel jacks is next to the USB Type-C port in the images.andrewaggb - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
Actually sounds like a decent product stack to me. Hopefully they review ok.Michael Bay - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
3 is certainly interesting. How much for 1080p?