That wouldn't have much relevance, almost all of those will be either machine or highly skilled and insured professional IT personnel installed... And when so I doubt it would be installed more than once.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but these are pin-less. The motherboard has spring loaded "pins", that are really curved strips, and the processor has little semi-spherical indentations. It's reverse what we had 10 years ago, and pins no longer get bent. Except with AMD...
I'll put this here also so people will actually see it but the Specs listed here are somewhat wrong compared to the asrock listed specs
"2U4N-F/X200 supports totally four of Intel Xeon Phi X200 processor on each node. It is equipped with 6 of DDR4 DIMM slots per node, 2 of PCIe3.0 x8 slots and 2 of 10G LAN ports. "
Actually, it seems like the Asrock link has been corrected, now it says there are two GLAN ports, which I assume mean 1GbE. However, and more importantly, these processors support Intel Omni-Path networking technology, and the link mentions QSFP 28 connectors for 100GbE networking. I don't see any QSFP connectors anywhere in the pictures though.
I'm not at all surprised that this has a VGA port on it for compatibility with existing infrastructure, but can't they offer a modern port too? It seems that we're stuck in a loop where all the consumers are using VGA because there's nothing else available, and manufacturers are only offering VGA because that's what all the consumers are using.
I don't think you quite understand why VGA is still in use. It's not because of compatibility with existing infrastructure, it's because it's the only analog video port in relative use today. Everything after it, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, etc. have been digital video signals. The only reason a server technician should need to plug in a monitor directly into a server is because they _cannot_ communicate with the server through any other way to troubleshoot it. In this case, they cannot get roadblocked by having an HDMI only server, just to find out that to get HDMI video out, they need drivers, and to install drivers they need to get to the machine, and to get to the machine to install drivers they need to plug in a monitor, and to get video out from a monitor, etc...
VGA ports and monitors are literally plug-n-play. There's no HDCP or drivers associated with these ports. The signal fed to the port is analog, the port issues an analog signal to a connected cable, and the monitor reads an analog signal and converts that to a digital image.
Anyone complaining about VGA on server hardware literally has no freaking clue about why it's still around today and why it still _needs_ to be around today.
Aggressive post aside, that's a good reason. I've never run into a situation where a server wouldn't give basic video out on a digital connection, so I've learned something here.
I was thinking more along the lines of KVMs. It would be nice to have a digital output to use there, instead of extending analog VGA through umpteen wires and switches to end up with a distorted picture back at the console.
DVI can handle both analog and digital signals in the DVI-I incarnation (which is pretty common). So there's really no need for VGA to still be around, unless the slightly larger connector is an issue (doubt it, though).
re: highspeed networking Usually would be done with a mezzanine card of some kind.
re: VGA With KVMoIP (or KVMoIPoIB), VGA is probably the cheapest display solution that has the greatest chance of working when something goes wrong. DVI/HDMI/DP - if there is a failure, it's slightly more difficult to find out why/where in the chain. VGA is more simple and straightforward.
KNL will be able to run a number of Linux distros (SLES, RHEL 7.2+ and CentOS 7.2) as the host, as well as Windows Server 2016 as the host as well. As a coprocessor on a PCIe card, it is supported on SLES, RHEL 6.8+ and Windows 8/Server 2012 and up.
"the annual event where Intel and Intel’s partners show their latest products and discuss a number of core topics" Pun intended? Do they also discuss a number of Pentium topics and Celeron topics for those on tight budgets, or Xeon topics for servers?
The Specs list is wrong as far as I can tell the spec should be whats listed below
"2U4N-F/X200 supports totally four of Intel Xeon Phi X200 processor on each node. It is equipped with 6 of DDR4 DIMM slots per node, 2 of PCIe3.0 x8 slots and 2 of 10G LAN ports. "
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asdacap - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
That is a huge socket.yannigr2 - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
So many pins to bend :pHollyDOL - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
That wouldn't have much relevance, almost all of those will be either machine or highly skilled and insured professional IT personnel installed... And when so I doubt it would be installed more than once.ddriver - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
So they should directly solder the chips onto the mobo then...andychow - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but these are pin-less. The motherboard has spring loaded "pins", that are really curved strips, and the processor has little semi-spherical indentations. It's reverse what we had 10 years ago, and pins no longer get bent. Except with AMD...mdw9604 - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
"That's what he said"SunLord - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
I'll put this here also so people will actually see it but the Specs listed here are somewhat wrong compared to the asrock listed specs"2U4N-F/X200 supports totally four of Intel Xeon Phi X200 processor on each node. It is equipped with 6 of DDR4 DIMM slots per node, 2 of PCIe3.0 x8 slots and 2 of 10G LAN ports. "
http://www.asrockrack.com/general/news.de.asp?id=1...
p1esk - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
Actually, it seems like the Asrock link has been corrected, now it says there are two GLAN ports, which I assume mean 1GbE.However, and more importantly, these processors support Intel Omni-Path networking technology, and the link mentions QSFP 28 connectors for 100GbE networking. I don't see any QSFP connectors anywhere in the pictures though.
Shadowmaster625 - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
Everyone knows its "pack ‘em, stack ‘em and then rack ‘em"Mr Perfect - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
I'm not at all surprised that this has a VGA port on it for compatibility with existing infrastructure, but can't they offer a modern port too? It seems that we're stuck in a loop where all the consumers are using VGA because there's nothing else available, and manufacturers are only offering VGA because that's what all the consumers are using.evilspoons - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
Yes, argh. I think at this point we should just make VGA illegal.JoeyJoJo123 - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
I don't think you quite understand why VGA is still in use. It's not because of compatibility with existing infrastructure, it's because it's the only analog video port in relative use today. Everything after it, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, etc. have been digital video signals. The only reason a server technician should need to plug in a monitor directly into a server is because they _cannot_ communicate with the server through any other way to troubleshoot it. In this case, they cannot get roadblocked by having an HDMI only server, just to find out that to get HDMI video out, they need drivers, and to install drivers they need to get to the machine, and to get to the machine to install drivers they need to plug in a monitor, and to get video out from a monitor, etc...VGA ports and monitors are literally plug-n-play. There's no HDCP or drivers associated with these ports. The signal fed to the port is analog, the port issues an analog signal to a connected cable, and the monitor reads an analog signal and converts that to a digital image.
Anyone complaining about VGA on server hardware literally has no freaking clue about why it's still around today and why it still _needs_ to be around today.
Mr Perfect - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
Aggressive post aside, that's a good reason. I've never run into a situation where a server wouldn't give basic video out on a digital connection, so I've learned something here.I was thinking more along the lines of KVMs. It would be nice to have a digital output to use there, instead of extending analog VGA through umpteen wires and switches to end up with a distorted picture back at the console.
jabber - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
Yes sometimes some things just need no BS hardware that just works...and works. VGA is one of those technologies.azrael- - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
DVI can handle both analog and digital signals in the DVI-I incarnation (which is pretty common). So there's really no need for VGA to still be around, unless the slightly larger connector is an issue (doubt it, though).HollyDOL - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
DVI can supply both analog and digital signal.Altares13 - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
What do you mean: you need drivers to output a digital signal? Is there a case when a graphics card could output through VGA and not DVI?Mr Perfect - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
That's what he said. I've not seen anything like that in a Windows environment, so maybe it's a Linux or BeOS thing?HollyDOL - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
Doubt it... unless BIOS uses Windows drivers to display POST and stuff :-)nathanddrews - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
Curious: will we see a consumer Phi AIB?p1esk - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
Considering how much these will cost, it's surprising they didn't bother to put a couple of 10GbE ports on them.SunLord - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
That is because the listed specs are wrong...http://www.asrockrack.com/general/news.de.asp?id=1...
alpha754293 - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
I forget - do these run the regular x86/x64 ISA?re: highspeed networking
Usually would be done with a mezzanine card of some kind.
re: VGA
With KVMoIP (or KVMoIPoIB), VGA is probably the cheapest display solution that has the greatest chance of working when something goes wrong. DVI/HDMI/DP - if there is a failure, it's slightly more difficult to find out why/where in the chain. VGA is more simple and straightforward.
Ian Cutress - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
KNL will be able to run a number of Linux distros (SLES, RHEL 7.2+ and CentOS 7.2) as the host, as well as Windows Server 2016 as the host as well. As a coprocessor on a PCIe card, it is supported on SLES, RHEL 6.8+ and Windows 8/Server 2012 and up.ruthan - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
There is only question, if it is x86, could it run Windows and Crysis? :)Michael Bay - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
Didn`t it begin life as a graphics chip? Imagine if it actually can!137ben - Monday, August 15, 2016 - link
"the annual event where Intel and Intel’s partners show their latest products and discuss a number of core topics"Pun intended? Do they also discuss a number of Pentium topics and Celeron topics for those on tight budgets, or Xeon topics for servers?
SunLord - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
The Specs list is wrong as far as I can tell the spec should be whats listed below"2U4N-F/X200 supports totally four of Intel Xeon Phi X200 processor on each node. It is equipped with 6 of DDR4 DIMM slots per node, 2 of PCIe3.0 x8 slots and 2 of 10G LAN ports. "
SunLord - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
http://www.asrockrack.com/general/news.de.asp?id=1...Add an edit button.
HrD - Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - link
Oh I love ASRock english. I totally do, dude. :DSamer - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
Damn! thats big one... Didn't know Asrock did servers!Lukart - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
Well, it's pretty common Mobo manufacturers also have their Server division.Besides they do more than servers and mobos.
JohnLu - Thursday, August 25, 2016 - link
True that! They are pretty innovative company.