I had to switch to iphone for this generation because of the abysmal nexus experience of this generation. I do not believe software issue is going to be fixed by any of the other android hardware companies, but I hear only good things about oneplus. I hope they stay on this and be more open about their hardwares. Thanks for these news about oneplus.
Feel free to insert your own software issue, considering there are dozens of hugely critical security vulnerabilities in Android and tens of millions of unpatched phones in the wild.
This article in ars also points to only one of the problems. You can find so much more in forums to have updated view on what is missing in almost all the manufacturers provided softwares. Region to region varies also, since they do not provide the same software on the similar phones they distribute in all the countries or regions. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/motorola-co...
Does not mean changed to a completely different codec... This isn't news. They likely would need different hardware to support HEVC recording, so you're never going to get that in a software update unless they plan to do in CPU and just kill your battery, if the CPU can even manage it.
I think most phones released in 2015 and 2016 should support HEVC decode. The decoding compute via software is about 2x.
Even my 3 year old Haswell based laptop plays HEVC fine upto 1080P. Don't know why no one is using HEVC already since playback doesn't seem to be an issue.
I'll bet HEVC encode requires a binary licensed from Qualcomm, and that cost probably doesn't make sense in a $400 phone that's already spent the majority of BOM on fairly high end hardware for that final price.
Have u got money from one plus ? you guys did not cover any other phones for their updates ? There are too many good phones out there better than one plus to be shown out .
Maybe there are. Then again most of them cost twice as much. Take the HTC 10 or Galaxy S7 as an example. They might have a better camera or the CPU might be a little faster. But they're definitely a lot more expensive. I'd rather have a review for something like the OnePlus then yet another review for the "Big Names". This sounds more useful to the normal person.
Also, what are those phones that are better than this one (maybe even cheaper)? And try to name one with general availability not a $200 phone only available in India or China.
The last line of your comment answers the question. @Vishalaestro is from India and he maybe talking about Xiaomi, Le Eco and many other interesting manufacturers available in Asian and BRIC markets.
I figured as much. That's exactly why I asked why would AT concentrate on phones that are unavailable in most of the world instead of this flagship class phone that's still cheap and available on most continents, especially the ones where AT is most read like Europe and North America.
Hussein and Xiaomi got plenty of attention when they launched something. They just never had a product with so few compromises compared to the established flagships.
I'm looking forward to the Axon 7, Moto X 2016 (much less because Motorola is promising shitty support), and this year's Nexus phones if they ate reasonably priced. The One Plus I'm more hesitant about but may end up buying.
They were really hard on them in their initial review, so I think they felt guilty when the updates happened. And truth be told, I was also scornful when I saw the benchmarks. A lot of this can be fixed in updates, though, and OnePlus has done a lot of really important updates.
After upgrade my oneplus 3 to 3.2.2, I am completely dissatisfied. phone slowed down - I cant believe phone has 6 GB RAM. Camera and audio quality decreased, its very poor now. It was good with 3.2.1. Video recording is very slow. While recording it moves frame by frame. Irritates.
And does One Plus get the monthly security bulletins and updates out every month? Or ate they pulling a Motorola? I'm shopping for a new phone and trying to decide on the One Plus 3, Axon 7, and one of the new Nexus phones depending on what those cost and how they perform.
Bought this device because of your in-depth review. When so many other reviewers were saying good things about the display (pre 3.2.0 days), you were the first ones to come out with this.
Needless to say, you guys run the only site I trust now.
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mmrezaie - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
I had to switch to iphone for this generation because of the abysmal nexus experience of this generation. I do not believe software issue is going to be fixed by any of the other android hardware companies, but I hear only good things about oneplus. I hope they stay on this and be more open about their hardwares. Thanks for these news about oneplus.edzieba - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
"do not believe software issue is going to be fixed by any of the other android hardware companies"Spambot forget to set the 'software issue' variable?
mmrezaie - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
As a bot: whaa? I meant these problem others have to provide timely updates according to android bulletin ;-)vanilla_gorilla - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
Feel free to insert your own software issue, considering there are dozens of hugely critical security vulnerabilities in Android and tens of millions of unpatched phones in the wild.mmrezaie - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
This article in ars also points to only one of the problems. You can find so much more in forums to have updated view on what is missing in almost all the manufacturers provided softwares. Region to region varies also, since they do not provide the same software on the similar phones they distribute in all the countries or regions. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/motorola-co...cygnus1 - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
-Updated 4K video recording codec.Does not mean changed to a completely different codec... This isn't news. They likely would need different hardware to support HEVC recording, so you're never going to get that in a software update unless they plan to do in CPU and just kill your battery, if the CPU can even manage it.
Brandon Chester - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
Snapdragon 810 and 820 support HEVC encode, the issue is when you try to play it back on another device that has to try and decode it in software.arayoflight - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
I think most phones released in 2015 and 2016 should support HEVC decode. The decoding compute via software is about 2x.Even my 3 year old Haswell based laptop plays HEVC fine upto 1080P. Don't know why no one is using HEVC already since playback doesn't seem to be an issue.
Eden-K121D - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
My Has well i3 can play 4k 10 bit HEVC just finecygnus1 - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
I'll bet HEVC encode requires a binary licensed from Qualcomm, and that cost probably doesn't make sense in a $400 phone that's already spent the majority of BOM on fairly high end hardware for that final price.Vishalaestro - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link
Have u got money from one plus ? you guys did not cover any other phones for their updates ? There are too many good phones out there better than one plus to be shown out .Stochastic - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
I don't think there are any phones better than the OnePlus for the money in the US (at least not yet...Xiaomi may change that).close - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
Maybe there are. Then again most of them cost twice as much. Take the HTC 10 or Galaxy S7 as an example. They might have a better camera or the CPU might be a little faster. But they're definitely a lot more expensive. I'd rather have a review for something like the OnePlus then yet another review for the "Big Names". This sounds more useful to the normal person.Also, what are those phones that are better than this one (maybe even cheaper)? And try to name one with general availability not a $200 phone only available in India or China.
BMNify - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
The last line of your comment answers the question. @Vishalaestro is from India and he maybe talking about Xiaomi, Le Eco and many other interesting manufacturers available in Asian and BRIC markets.close - Saturday, July 30, 2016 - link
I figured as much. That's exactly why I asked why would AT concentrate on phones that are unavailable in most of the world instead of this flagship class phone that's still cheap and available on most continents, especially the ones where AT is most read like Europe and North America.Hussein and Xiaomi got plenty of attention when they launched something. They just never had a product with so few compromises compared to the established flagships.
close - Monday, August 1, 2016 - link
Apple's shitty autocorrect be damned. *"HUAWEI and Xiaomi".evilpaul666 - Saturday, July 30, 2016 - link
I'm looking forward to the Axon 7, Moto X 2016 (much less because Motorola is promising shitty support), and this year's Nexus phones if they ate reasonably priced. The One Plus I'm more hesitant about but may end up buying.mkozakewich - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
They were really hard on them in their initial review, so I think they felt guilty when the updates happened. And truth be told, I was also scornful when I saw the benchmarks. A lot of this can be fixed in updates, though, and OnePlus has done a lot of really important updates.krazyfrog - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
I tested the video back to back before and after updating and could spot absolutely zero difference between the two.TO_BEhonest - Friday, July 29, 2016 - link
After upgrade my oneplus 3 to 3.2.2, I am completely dissatisfied. phone slowed down - I cant believe phone has 6 GB RAM. Camera and audio quality decreased, its very poor now. It was good with 3.2.1. Video recording is very slow. While recording it moves frame by frame. Irritates.evilpaul666 - Saturday, July 30, 2016 - link
Does it decode HEVC video?And does One Plus get the monthly security bulletins and updates out every month? Or ate they pulling a Motorola? I'm shopping for a new phone and trying to decide on the One Plus 3, Axon 7, and one of the new Nexus phones depending on what those cost and how they perform.
mi_android - Sunday, July 31, 2016 - link
Led notifications not working after the update ..!Anyone else facing the issue ?
Bol0 - Sunday, July 31, 2016 - link
Great job Brandon! Now i consider Oneplus 3 over LG G5, thanx :)gro0vr - Monday, August 22, 2016 - link
Bought this device because of your in-depth review. When so many other reviewers were saying good things about the display (pre 3.2.0 days), you were the first ones to come out with this.Needless to say, you guys run the only site I trust now.