"Most important of all is that this does not count against your iCloud storage. "
Megatonne. That's the line I've been trying to find out since they announced it. If it counted against your storage that would still be meh with the insulting 5GB free and 1TB pricey cap, but not counting against your storage is awesome.
Hmm, seems to me there's two very different components to that feature... When it "moves" stuff like system fonts, language packs, and apps it's not really storing anything FOR you... It's just deleting OS elements like you've always been able to, rather than reinstalling from disc like in the days of yore you simply reinstall from their servers.
There's no reason that should count against quota, they only need to keep one instance of the entire OS feature set and apps for everybody. User data on the other hand, I'd be very surprised if they're just gonna host it for free willy nilly... There's gotta be some catch there. Sync has a high server demand but storing GBs upon GBs of files for macOS users is pretty demanding too...
The store all files in icloud feature is the one that notes it doesn't' count against system storage, so I think that's user files too. The optimize storage feature for fonts and other cruft on the other hand it makes sense they don't need to store one copy for everyone.
As I recall, not every GPU that got Metal support in El Cap was actually using it to render OSX yet. Specifically dual GPU models I think, i.e integrated and dedicated, even if the dedicated supported Metal and a desktop used it exclusively. Did any more make the list with Siera?
Oh good, more Apple content. I haven't been waiting for video card or phone reviews, I only want Apple content. So glad this website provides to my needs :D
This website has continually gotten worse ever since Anand left. I wonder what he thinks of this these days? Probably does not care since he likely made a good chunk of change.
I would imagine Anand is quite happy with his apple golden parachute, the money he got for selling the forums to AMD along with the "AMD Sponsored" section, and money from the sale to Purch.
I just want to go on the record for appreciating this Mac content. I have early access to the OS X previews through my Apple Developer account, but don't have the time. It's summer-time in Michigan and I'd rather spend it enjoying the outdoors. Articles like this are quick and fun to read, providing a glimpse of what's coming to my MacBook Pro...this fall. Thanks!
Apple content is the only content that comes out on time. Phones that are not the iphone get delayed by weeks, sometimes even months. GPU reviews sometimes dont come out at all. Even some mac revies dont surface (remember that 13 inch macbook that never saw it's review come out, despite anand's promises?)
You missed a few recent articles on which to complain about this, I don't think anyone even mentioned the HTC 10 & GTX 1080 on the Meizu/Xiaomi review... The quality of heckling commenters is going downhill! It's that damn Pokemon Go I tell ya, I bet they're busy catching them all.
You do know that you are not required to read it right? You do have the option to skip over articles that don't interest you, right? Or are the Apple Police somehow forcing you to read it?
This is the only article they have posted today. So no, in order to get my Anandtech fix I had to read this garbage. :( Anand took the Applecopter to my house, put a gun to my head, and FORCED me to read it. I will submit my therapy invoices to Purch.
I hope y;ire just kidding. If you look at the percentage of Apple stuff here, y;I'll se that it is right where it should be. I don't complain about all the Microsoft stuff, or all the Google stuff. I don't complain about all the reviews of obscure things done here that almost no one will every buy.
The only time I've every been annoyed with that is when it took months for the full review of an Apple product to come out, when the preview review came out right away. But this is a big thing, believe it or not, and a lot of us ARE interested.
I just came from the front page. 3 links to Apple related stories, 25 to non Apple related stories. I'm pretty sure there were other phone reviews there too.
So where's the GTX1080 in depth look and review? Any article on the GTX1070? 1080 is nearing 2 months at this point, at least it got a preview. Nothing for the GTX1070 whatsoever, and it's been 1 month too. Are you guys just going to ignore them like you guys have the GTX950/960? Where reviews were promised but never delivered?
How about phones, where's the HTC10 review?
Come on what the fuck Anandtech? Release day reviews?
People either have warmed memories, haven't been around long enough, or just choose to ignore that late but often the most detailed has always been the mantra here, Anand or not.
Other reviews may be out sooner but 95% of them don't go too deep.
People are complaining because they don't want to see such a brilliant website lose its identity. I don't imagine many people care for a deep dive on the Galaxy S6 now and yet this is the direction the site is taking. Who cares about an in-depth article on a last-gen product when it isn't an unknown quantity anymore?
Phone reviews, iPhone aside (and even then) were always late tho...
I remember bugging Anand over email about 1st and 2nd gen Android phone reviews. They might've actually gotten better at some point but it's always been a slow process to produce the kinda reviews they do and they've pretty much never been able to review ALL phones.
It was way worse when every carrier had specific versions of various phones and basically no phone was available across more than 2 carriers... Samsung didn't start cracking down on that from their end until the SGS3 or so.
Just saying, the HTC 10 review is still pretty darn late, but it isn't an entirely new trend.
I'm talking about GPU and CPU reviews, hour 1 has never been their thing, but they often bring to light new architectural features or issues others skipped.
This right here encapsulates the frustration. They have lost their way. Instead of in-depth breakdowns of different technologies, we get pages and pages about Apple watches, months spent on an iPad that is 3 inches larger, crap like that. They have completely missed the boat on some of the most in-demand consumer tech products like the 960, the 1070, 1080 etc. They are barely even dribbling content out at this point if it isn't an Apple product.
Anand got the Job at Apple because he knows his stuff. The strange thing is this, I have been here since close to the beginning and the last year before Anand left he was always being run down the same way and called an Apple fan boy, Taking $$$ from manufactures in return for positive reviews, Late reviews.
Amazing to me as this site and the reviews both with Anand and since he left are FIRST RATE and really help people make the right decision.
I wish people would back off and not keep attacking everyone here. They are doing their best and the quality of the reviews are worth the wait.
Tech forums are filled with butthurt fanboys who only want to read things that reinforce their personal bias. They aren't unique to AT but it is disappointing given the higher caliber of reader you would hope a site like this attracts.
What amazes me is we get the huge "preview" of this mac OS update, which does not come out until fall, but we get jack shit on the Windows 10 anniversary update which comes out August 2 and has some pretty huge things in it.
Ya know, I realize people use Macs but there are about 8x more Windows users out there that would appreciate some coverage on that OS too.
Whatever you do Apple... DO NOT give this update away for free as the entire internet, or a selection of loud mouthed people, will slam it and refuse to update. /s (Windows 10 anyone?)
Yup, with a rate outpacing the previous fastest ever adopted operating system-release by around 145% is a massive failure, amirite?!... I know a small but loud group wanted to create the impression that no one updated to Windows 10, but that attempt failed miserably, like most internet trolling attempts tends to do.
145% for one month, when no other version of Windows has been a free upgrade before, so all of the early adopters that might have had to wait to afford it don't have to wait-- yeah, that's quite an accomplishment. What about the heaps of people who resent MS for what they've done, and are more likely than ever before to jump ship to Apple or Linux? I remember the browser wars, the introduction of WGA, Windows Vista, Windows 8... but I don't remember there ever being this level of contempt for MS and the product in question than there is now. Is alienating all of their customers part of some kind of grand plan? If I were a MS competitor secretly plotting to destroy them, I don't think I would do anything different than MS has.
But yeah, plenty of people upgraded to Windows 10-- though their target of a billion devices by ($date) won't happen, as they've admitted, but there have been a bunch. Many of them are people who were not tech-savvy enough to know how to block 10, and they're not happy about it. So much for people using Windows because they want to and not because they have to!
There's a difference between giving something away and essentially forcing people to take it even as they tell you they don't want it. I've never liked Apple, but they've never stooped to using malware techniques and dark pattern trickery to get people to upgrade to something free. They stick to that old-fashioned method of trying to produce products people want so that they'll buy them. Microsoft has a different idea-- make something no one wants, then force them to upgrade with dirty tricks.
Oh, and the growth rate of Linux last month (as reported by Netmarketshare.com) was 30% higher than that of Windows 10. Another Microsoft achievement!
You're being a bit hyperbolic. It's not that no one wanted to upgrade to Windows 10, it's that there's a significant minority that doesn't... and isn't happy that Microsoft used underhanded tactics to upgrade some people without their explicit consent.
There are very real stories of people who didn't realize that Windows was set to auto-upgrade and came back to see their PC running Windows 10. I'm sorry, but that's just not cool -- even Apple with its relatively aggressive upgrade strategy won't automatically install the latest version of macOS.
It's a classic example of letting business goals override what the user wants.
Not that it have much relevance; but the app store always suggests me to install latest free version of OS X. It's too bad it immediately fails as my 2006 MacBook Pro C2D doesn't run anything more recent than Lion. That means I can't run latest X Code, so only way I can try out Swift is in a Linux VM which doesn't target iOS or macOS - sigh.
Just an FYI, workarounds have already been developed in the Mac community enabling Sierra (beta) to be installed on easier Mac Pros. The simplest is available to owners of 4,1 (2009) Mac Pros; Update EFI to 5,1 (2010) firmware and your 2009 Mac, for all intents and purposes, is now a 2010. The update also allows CPU swaps up to the fastest hex cores available for the era, W3690 and X5690.
I'd really like to see Apple break iTunes out into separate apps on macOS and Windows. Like on iOS, have Videos, Music, App Store, and iTunes Store. Each could be improved on its own schedule instead of all of it having to be updated at once the way it is.
Continuity and iMessage are actually a problem in our house because we share iPads. This means private messages get sent to iPads when we don't want and it's a pain to deal with the way we use our devices. I know there will be suggestions but we have probably already heard them all. Maybe we're outliers.... We just can't use iMessage.
So typical of this dying site. Apple OS shit but no Win 10 update/anniversary article, even though it's basically complete now and builds have been available for far longer.
So, just to clarify something. The PiP window doesn't have to snap to the corners of the screen. It's just the default behaviour. If you drag it around while holding command, the floating window can be placed anywhere.
Furthermore, there's also a new, unmentioned window management feature; Snapping. It's not like the Aeuro snap thing on Windows, but moving a window to the edge of another, or resizing it or something, will result in the window, sort of magnetically sticking slightly when it reaches the edge of the other window, or the boundary of the screen. It can still be stretched beyond that point, but it's faster and easier to line things up exactly edge to edge.
Thanks for the article, I've been coming here everyday for many years to see what's up. I find no desire to whine about the 95% non-apple content. In fact, I read it happily, because reading is fun and you learn something new every day. Sometimes it takes a day or two before a new article is up. I don't care. Anand took a job at Apple. So what? Good for him, he's a smart guy and why shouldn't he move on? If anything the Apple content has been less since Anand left, since clearly he was excited by the technology and the company. His Apple AX CPU dives were excellent reading, whatever your platform of choice. No matter, Ryan and company have done an excellent job since Anand left, the overall character and content of the site has remained the same.
Sadly, one of the things that has never changed are all the pointless complaints that have nothing to do with the content of Apple related articles in particular. It's just a constant barrage of platform identity complex and content entitlement syndrome on full display. It's incredibly tiresome and brings down the quality of an otherwise excellent site. Whining about platforms, disparagement of the editors, fomenting about the ratio of x content to y content, blah blah blah... boring.
Right now there are three articles about apple stuff on the entire home-page scroll of about 45 articles, strangely the apple articles all share an identical flood of complaints about publishing the article while the non-apple articles are followed by relatively sober discussions about the content of the article. Ironically all of this complaining and platform trolling in Apple articles only proves that Anandtech has not changed much at all over time, contrary to what these commenters want to believe. This is still largely a Win/PC and Android focused site with a side of Apple product, pretending otherwise is childish.
Anyway, sincere thanks to all the editors and writers for all of the articles covering all of the platforms over the years here on Anandtech. Don't let the cesspool of the comments get to you, you're doing a great job.
Yes, being a mac user since 1988 I am all to familiar with it. Believe me, I ignore it by default and do not generally waste time worrying about it. On the other hand it's 2016, the horse has been flogged into a bloody mist, and the overwhelming stupidity of it all can inspire a rare comment from me regarding same, if you don't mind.
Thanks for the article! I appreciate the Apple content, and, as I'm capable of using multiple computing platforms, I appreciate the non-Apple content, too.
The comment in the article about iOS having no accessible file system is incorrect. iOS has had accessible files since 2007 when the first iOS device came out.
I know the author actually meant an "open" file system in the sense that files saved by one app are accessible to others, iOS has that, too, since iOS 8. It's called iCloud Drive. The files do exist on Apple's remote servers, but they (can) also exist on the device and they are accessible from other apps. For example, I can access iCloud Drive files saved by various apps in Mail app to attach to email messages.
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tipoo - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
"Most important of all is that this does not count against your iCloud storage. "Megatonne. That's the line I've been trying to find out since they announced it. If it counted against your storage that would still be meh with the insulting 5GB free and 1TB pricey cap, but not counting against your storage is awesome.
Impulses - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Hmm, seems to me there's two very different components to that feature... When it "moves" stuff like system fonts, language packs, and apps it's not really storing anything FOR you... It's just deleting OS elements like you've always been able to, rather than reinstalling from disc like in the days of yore you simply reinstall from their servers.There's no reason that should count against quota, they only need to keep one instance of the entire OS feature set and apps for everybody. User data on the other hand, I'd be very surprised if they're just gonna host it for free willy nilly... There's gotta be some catch there. Sync has a high server demand but storing GBs upon GBs of files for macOS users is pretty demanding too...
Isn't it essentially free online backups?
tipoo - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
The store all files in icloud feature is the one that notes it doesn't' count against system storage, so I think that's user files too. The optimize storage feature for fonts and other cruft on the other hand it makes sense they don't need to store one copy for everyone.tipoo - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
As I recall, not every GPU that got Metal support in El Cap was actually using it to render OSX yet. Specifically dual GPU models I think, i.e integrated and dedicated, even if the dedicated supported Metal and a desktop used it exclusively. Did any more make the list with Siera?osxandwindows - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
This is exactly what we Mac power users have been wishing for.Next to 0 new features, better performance and stability.
TheITS - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Oh good, more Apple content. I haven't been waiting for video card or phone reviews, I only want Apple content. So glad this website provides to my needs :Dcknobman - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
This website has continually gotten worse ever since Anand left.I wonder what he thinks of this these days? Probably does not care since he likely made a good chunk of change.
Communism - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I would imagine Anand is quite happy with his apple golden parachute, the money he got for selling the forums to AMD along with the "AMD Sponsored" section, and money from the sale to Purch.TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I just want to go on the record for appreciating this Mac content. I have early access to the OS X previews through my Apple Developer account, but don't have the time. It's summer-time in Michigan and I'd rather spend it enjoying the outdoors. Articles like this are quick and fun to read, providing a glimpse of what's coming to my MacBook Pro...this fall. Thanks!Teknobug - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
That explains AtenRa.vladx - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
He's got nothing on Abwx and JDG1980. Those two are the biggest AMD fanbois.Cygni - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Then go some place else.willxiv - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link
How has it gotten worse? I enjoy this site's articles, and don't feel there's a lot of Mac content versus non-Mac content.TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - link
Apple content is the only content that comes out on time. Phones that are not the iphone get delayed by weeks, sometimes even months. GPU reviews sometimes dont come out at all. Even some mac revies dont surface (remember that 13 inch macbook that never saw it's review come out, despite anand's promises?)Impulses - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
You missed a few recent articles on which to complain about this, I don't think anyone even mentioned the HTC 10 & GTX 1080 on the Meizu/Xiaomi review... The quality of heckling commenters is going downhill! It's that damn Pokemon Go I tell ya, I bet they're busy catching them all.RaichuPls - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I gave up on complaining for a bit, but it's been too long so I've started again.pashhtk27 - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
The reason probably has to do with the content of that article, and more importantly whom it was meant for.Ratman6161 - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
You do know that you are not required to read it right? You do have the option to skip over articles that don't interest you, right? Or are the Apple Police somehow forcing you to read it?fanofanand - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
This is the only article they have posted today. So no, in order to get my Anandtech fix I had to read this garbage. :( Anand took the Applecopter to my house, put a gun to my head, and FORCED me to read it. I will submit my therapy invoices to Purch.JoeMonco - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Do we need to send the waaahmbulance to your house?melgross - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I hope y;ire just kidding. If you look at the percentage of Apple stuff here, y;I'll se that it is right where it should be. I don't complain about all the Microsoft stuff, or all the Google stuff. I don't complain about all the reviews of obscure things done here that almost no one will every buy.The only time I've every been annoyed with that is when it took months for the full review of an Apple product to come out, when the preview review came out right away. But this is a big thing, believe it or not, and a lot of us ARE interested.
KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
So go read other articles posted then. You whiners are insufferablerenstein - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
I just came from the front page. 3 links to Apple related stories, 25 to non Apple related stories. I'm pretty sure there were other phone reviews there too.RaichuPls - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
So where's the GTX1080 in depth look and review? Any article on the GTX1070? 1080 is nearing 2 months at this point, at least it got a preview. Nothing for the GTX1070 whatsoever, and it's been 1 month too. Are you guys just going to ignore them like you guys have the GTX950/960? Where reviews were promised but never delivered?How about phones, where's the HTC10 review?
Come on what the fuck Anandtech? Release day reviews?
colonelclaw - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Let me guess, by day you're a motivational speech writer?Ryan Smith - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
11 AT-length pages of architecture/features are now done. So it's nearing completion.RaichuPls - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Alright man, thanks for replying. Hopefully I've got something to look forward to.Impulses - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Now you've done it Ryan, prepare to be tracked and measured on a page/day metric until the review is out...fanofanand - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Not true, he told us a week ago it was almost finished, that cat was already out of the bag.tipoo - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
People either have warmed memories, haven't been around long enough, or just choose to ignore that late but often the most detailed has always been the mantra here, Anand or not.Other reviews may be out sooner but 95% of them don't go too deep.
TheITS - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
People are complaining because they don't want to see such a brilliant website lose its identity. I don't imagine many people care for a deep dive on the Galaxy S6 now and yet this is the direction the site is taking. Who cares about an in-depth article on a last-gen product when it isn't an unknown quantity anymore?Impulses - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Phone reviews, iPhone aside (and even then) were always late tho...I remember bugging Anand over email about 1st and 2nd gen Android phone reviews. They might've actually gotten better at some point but it's always been a slow process to produce the kinda reviews they do and they've pretty much never been able to review ALL phones.
It was way worse when every carrier had specific versions of various phones and basically no phone was available across more than 2 carriers... Samsung didn't start cracking down on that from their end until the SGS3 or so.
Just saying, the HTC 10 review is still pretty darn late, but it isn't an entirely new trend.
tipoo - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I'm talking about GPU and CPU reviews, hour 1 has never been their thing, but they often bring to light new architectural features or issues others skipped.
fanofanand - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
This right here encapsulates the frustration. They have lost their way. Instead of in-depth breakdowns of different technologies, we get pages and pages about Apple watches, months spent on an iPad that is 3 inches larger, crap like that. They have completely missed the boat on some of the most in-demand consumer tech products like the 960, the 1070, 1080 etc. They are barely even dribbling content out at this point if it isn't an Apple product.jwcalla - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
You don't really think Anand got a cushy job at Apple because they liked his hair, do you?Dennis Travis - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Anand got the Job at Apple because he knows his stuff. The strange thing is this, I have been here since close to the beginning and the last year before Anand left he was always being run down the same way and called an Apple fan boy, Taking $$$ from manufactures in return for positive reviews, Late reviews.Amazing to me as this site and the reviews both with Anand and since he left are FIRST RATE and really help people make the right decision.
I wish people would back off and not keep attacking everyone here. They are doing their best and the quality of the reviews are worth the wait.
KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Tech forums are filled with butthurt fanboys who only want to read things that reinforce their personal bias. They aren't unique to AT but it is disappointing given the higher caliber of reader you would hope a site like this attracts.xthetenth - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
The really funny thing is it was Anand who sold me on windows phone.Dat apple bias.
ex2bot - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
I agree. People who accuse others of corruption or dishonesty should have damn good evidence. If not, then they're being unethical.melgross - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Oh, BS. I mean, seriously, if you aren't happy, then just leave.Ranger1065 - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Lol. RiP Anandtech.Cygni - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Nobody cares about what you think a websites 'identity' is or was. Go someplace else if you don't like the content.cknobman - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
What amazes me is we get the huge "preview" of this mac OS update, which does not come out until fall, but we get jack shit on the Windows 10 anniversary update which comes out August 2 and has some pretty huge things in it.Ya know, I realize people use Macs but there are about 8x more Windows users out there that would appreciate some coverage on that OS too.
michael2k - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I remember when it was 9x more Windows users. How time flies.I'm sorry Windows users aren't as important. I'd like to know about the update as well, and rely on Ars Technica. Not as in depth, but more timely:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016...
fanofanand - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
A 90% review (depth) is better than the 0% we have been getting here.Ryan Smith - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
We have something lined up for the Windows 10 update as well, once that ships.Friendly0Fire - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I have to ask... Why not release it early, as a preview? Why wait for it to ship, since you didn't do that for Apple?cknobman - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Thanks for the update Ryan.But I have the same question as Friendly0Fire.
Why do we get this huge article on Apple OS update that wont even come out until fall but for Windows 10 you are waiting until it ships?
Meteor2 - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link
Yeah, me too. Windows 10 Anniversary is a much bigger deal than macOS. Where's the preview?KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Are you new here? Anandtech always takes time because of how thorough they are.People come here for detailed and objective analysis. If you want a quick fix then there are dozens of other tech sites out there
WaitingForNehalem - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
It would have been nice to cover improvements to the kernel and the new file system...you know the important parts of an operating system.Brandon Chester - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
APFS isnt even shipping until 2017, it's not a Sierra feature.damianrobertjones - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Whatever you do Apple... DO NOT give this update away for free as the entire internet, or a selection of loud mouthed people, will slam it and refuse to update. /s (Windows 10 anyone?)theduckofdeath - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Yup, with a rate outpacing the previous fastest ever adopted operating system-release by around 145% is a massive failure, amirite?!...I know a small but loud group wanted to create the impression that no one updated to Windows 10, but that attempt failed miserably, like most internet trolling attempts tends to do.
Ascaris - Sunday, July 17, 2016 - link
145% for one month, when no other version of Windows has been a free upgrade before, so all of the early adopters that might have had to wait to afford it don't have to wait-- yeah, that's quite an accomplishment. What about the heaps of people who resent MS for what they've done, and are more likely than ever before to jump ship to Apple or Linux? I remember the browser wars, the introduction of WGA, Windows Vista, Windows 8... but I don't remember there ever being this level of contempt for MS and the product in question than there is now. Is alienating all of their customers part of some kind of grand plan? If I were a MS competitor secretly plotting to destroy them, I don't think I would do anything different than MS has.But yeah, plenty of people upgraded to Windows 10-- though their target of a billion devices by ($date) won't happen, as they've admitted, but there have been a bunch. Many of them are people who were not tech-savvy enough to know how to block 10, and they're not happy about it. So much for people using Windows because they want to and not because they have to!
There's a difference between giving something away and essentially forcing people to take it even as they tell you they don't want it. I've never liked Apple, but they've never stooped to using malware techniques and dark pattern trickery to get people to upgrade to something free. They stick to that old-fashioned method of trying to produce products people want so that they'll buy them. Microsoft has a different idea-- make something no one wants, then force them to upgrade with dirty tricks.
Oh, and the growth rate of Linux last month (as reported by Netmarketshare.com) was 30% higher than that of Windows 10. Another Microsoft achievement!
Commodus - Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - link
You're being a bit hyperbolic. It's not that no one wanted to upgrade to Windows 10, it's that there's a significant minority that doesn't... and isn't happy that Microsoft used underhanded tactics to upgrade some people without their explicit consent.There are very real stories of people who didn't realize that Windows was set to auto-upgrade and came back to see their PC running Windows 10. I'm sorry, but that's just not cool -- even Apple with its relatively aggressive upgrade strategy won't automatically install the latest version of macOS.
It's a classic example of letting business goals override what the user wants.
ex2bot - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
Mac OS updates have been free for years now. And there is a vocal minority who refuses to update past 10.6.Hyper72 - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link
Not that it have much relevance; but the app store always suggests me to install latest free version of OS X. It's too bad it immediately fails as my 2006 MacBook Pro C2D doesn't run anything more recent than Lion. That means I can't run latest X Code, so only way I can try out Swift is in a Linux VM which doesn't target iOS or macOS - sigh.Meteor2 - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link
It might be time to replace your ten year old computer.wsjudd - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
For anyone curious what the YouTube link spotted in the Messages screenshot was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfiUYij5UEsnowmyr - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
The first four siri photos are excellent for people who read right to left.DPUser - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Just an FYI, workarounds have already been developed in the Mac community enabling Sierra (beta) to be installed on easier Mac Pros. The simplest is available to owners of 4,1 (2009) Mac Pros; Update EFI to 5,1 (2010) firmware and your 2009 Mac, for all intents and purposes, is now a 2010. The update also allows CPU swaps up to the fastest hex cores available for the era, W3690 and X5690.DPUser - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
That would be "earlier" Mac Pros.marty1980 - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
I'd really like to see Apple break iTunes out into separate apps on macOS and Windows. Like on iOS, have Videos, Music, App Store, and iTunes Store. Each could be improved on its own schedule instead of all of it having to be updated at once the way it is.Continuity and iMessage are actually a problem in our house because we share iPads. This means private messages get sent to iPads when we don't want and it's a pain to deal with the way we use our devices. I know there will be suggestions but we have probably already heard them all. Maybe we're outliers.... We just can't use iMessage.
Impulses - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
You can't have separate user profiles on iOS? Huh...B3an - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
So typical of this dying site. Apple OS shit but no Win 10 update/anniversary article, even though it's basically complete now and builds have been available for far longer.Impulses - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Ryan commented it's coming, tho they could probably have written/published it already since (as you say) it's at least as far along as Sierra.ex2bot - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
Man, it is so dying for sure. Anand would NEVER allowed this Apple stuff. Who uses Apples?? Amirite?/s
DonMiguel85 - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Funny the 2009 MacBook Airs didn't make the cut since they still have the GeForce 320M and Core 2 Duo like the 2010 model.tipoo - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link
Yeah, makes no sense because the Macbook sans-moniker with a Core 2 Duo and 320M does get it. Some of the cutoffs are really strange in this one.Wheaties88 - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Any chance of being able to just clone a copy of macOS Sierra onto the drive of a non-supported Mac and getting it to boot?DPUser - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-3-1-in...Wheaties88 - Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - link
Thanks. I might have to try that on an older MacBook I have.casperes1996 - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
So, just to clarify something.The PiP window doesn't have to snap to the corners of the screen. It's just the default behaviour. If you drag it around while holding command, the floating window can be placed anywhere.
Furthermore, there's also a new, unmentioned window management feature; Snapping. It's not like the Aeuro snap thing on Windows, but moving a window to the edge of another, or resizing it or something, will result in the window, sort of magnetically sticking slightly when it reaches the edge of the other window, or the boundary of the screen. It can still be stretched beyond that point, but it's faster and easier to line things up exactly edge to edge.
Alexey291 - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Oh look more clickbait. Quelle surpriseApePriori - Thursday, July 14, 2016 - link
Thanks for the article, I've been coming here everyday for many years to see what's up. I find no desire to whine about the 95% non-apple content. In fact, I read it happily, because reading is fun and you learn something new every day. Sometimes it takes a day or two before a new article is up. I don't care. Anand took a job at Apple. So what? Good for him, he's a smart guy and why shouldn't he move on? If anything the Apple content has been less since Anand left, since clearly he was excited by the technology and the company. His Apple AX CPU dives were excellent reading, whatever your platform of choice. No matter, Ryan and company have done an excellent job since Anand left, the overall character and content of the site has remained the same.Sadly, one of the things that has never changed are all the pointless complaints that have nothing to do with the content of Apple related articles in particular. It's just a constant barrage of platform identity complex and content entitlement syndrome on full display. It's incredibly tiresome and brings down the quality of an otherwise excellent site. Whining about platforms, disparagement of the editors, fomenting about the ratio of x content to y content, blah blah blah... boring.
Right now there are three articles about apple stuff on the entire home-page scroll of about 45 articles, strangely the apple articles all share an identical flood of complaints about publishing the article while the non-apple articles are followed by relatively sober discussions about the content of the article. Ironically all of this complaining and platform trolling in Apple articles only proves that Anandtech has not changed much at all over time, contrary to what these commenters want to believe. This is still largely a Win/PC and Android focused site with a side of Apple product, pretending otherwise is childish.
Anyway, sincere thanks to all the editors and writers for all of the articles covering all of the platforms over the years here on Anandtech. Don't let the cesspool of the comments get to you, you're doing a great job.
Dennis Travis - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
Well said.Oxford Guy - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
Anti-Apple sentiment is a very old thing in the tech world. You haven't gotten use to it by now?ApePriori - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
Yes, being a mac user since 1988 I am all to familiar with it. Believe me, I ignore it by default and do not generally waste time worrying about it. On the other hand it's 2016, the horse has been flogged into a bloody mist, and the overwhelming stupidity of it all can inspire a rare comment from me regarding same, if you don't mind.ex2bot - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link
Thanks for the article! I appreciate the Apple content, and, as I'm capable of using multiple computing platforms, I appreciate the non-Apple content, too.The comment in the article about iOS having no accessible file system is incorrect. iOS has had accessible files since 2007 when the first iOS device came out.
I know the author actually meant an "open" file system in the sense that files saved by one app are accessible to others, iOS has that, too, since iOS 8. It's called iCloud Drive. The files do exist on Apple's remote servers, but they (can) also exist on the device and they are accessible from other apps. For example, I can access iCloud Drive files saved by various apps in Mail app to attach to email messages.
Jbald1 - Monday, April 1, 2019 - link
This is excellent information. Did a similar article get written for High Sierra 10.13?