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  • gm89uk - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Looks good, looking forward to the full review
  • megajen - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Here's a video of the OnePlus 3 that might help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcgC0jvjVqs
  • zeeBomb - Friday, June 17, 2016 - link

    Just want to mention:

    https://youtu.be/1fcIZctnRjE - fix for RAM issue

    It saddens me 1+ did this to a device that boasts having 6GB of RAM. Before tweaking the max app count is 20. 20!? Shameful! Y'all remember the OPX having issues of performance cuz they LIED of having a 801 snapdragon AB version, but really it was an AA? smh.

    If too lazeh;
    1) root, get build prop editor
    2) search for ro.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit=20 and change to a number no more than 60
    3) enjoy, spread the word!
  • Eden-K121D - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Great for its price. camera similar to last year's S6
  • mortimerr - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    It might have a similar sensor, but that's never a guarantee of similar outcome, unless they allow you to shoot in RAW.
  • Teo222 - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    They do.
  • aenews - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    OnePlus always supports RAW
  • invinciblegod - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Raw isn't as useful as regular cameras though because no raw editor will have lens profiles for these phones.
  • 0razor1 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    1. Lens. F1.9 > F2.0
    2. Sensor IMX240 > IMX298
    3. Software.. Sammy's HDR (detail, temperature, WB) > the rest of the world

    Here's the same sensor performing (albeit with poor AF) on a F2.0 lens.
    It's clearly a far throw from the S6.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate...
  • zeeBomb - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    But that's the Mate 8 that clearly shows pre production software...I went to greenbot and saw some of their image comparisons and I must say the OP3 comes close.
  • Eden-K121D - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    Correct Samsung using their proprietary ISP
  • Gunbuster - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Hope this sells well so the fall of handset prices back to earth accelerates. People spending thousands every two years on a phone has really hurt the rest of the industry (laptops, desktops, tablets)
  • Maxpower2727 - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Who, exactly, is spending "thousands" of dollars on "a phone"?
  • Gunbuster - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Many people, an iPhone 6s Plus is $750 for the anemic 16GB, 64GB is $850. Throw on a case, and insurance you are easily past $1000
  • shadarlo - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    A case is $5?
  • Smudgeous - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Per Apple's website, cases run $35-100. A screen protector is another $18. While I personally acknowledge that cases should be aquired for closer to $5 than $35, a lot of people buy the case directly from Apple at the time of the phone purchase.

    Looking at a real configuration the 128GB version of the 6S Plus is $949. Add to that the extras that many iPhone-using aquaintances of mine usually order at the same time (2 Years of AppleCare+ for $129, battery case for $100, screen protector for $18), and that single phone can crack $1300 in high-tax areas like NYC.
  • syxbit - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Strange. In the N5X and N6P reviews they defended the SD808 and SD810 chips..... And now they're back to saying how great SD820 is because it's better than the PoS chips of 2015. Why didn't you call a spade a spade. To quote the N5X review:

    "Snapdragon 808's heavy throttling means that for any task that taxes the CPU for over a couple of minutes you'd probably be better off with Snapdragon 801, and most certainly better off with 805. It's disappointing, but certainly forgivable when your device costs $379."

    Forgivable? The N5X is two years newer, and still slower than the N5. Oh, and the N5 launched at $349.

    But let's forget that. The SD820 is actually the great chip. We'll forget how we went easy on QC in 2015
  • jjj - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    1080p Pentile tragic design, assuming no microSD ,it's a poor release. Even 6GB of RAM won't be much of a selling point soon as even midrange will support that much RAM.
  • lmc5b - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    I don't like pentile either but i had the impression that pretty much all OLED displays on phones were pentile to cut on cost.
  • Death666Angel - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    But at that size, it's usually QHD, not FHD. :)
  • lmc5b - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Are you talking about pentile or ppi? I get that 1080p pentile may not be enough for everybody, but full rgb 1080p is a different story.
  • Death666Angel - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    I was talking about the fact that most AMOLED 5.5"+ phones with pentile subpixel orientation have a QHD resolution, thus lessening the impact of pentile vs RGB. Was not talking about RGB 1080p.
  • 0razor1 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Not to cut costs, but ..
    1. Pentile = longer panel lifespan. They went full RGB with the galaxy S2. They went back to pentile cause the burn in and degradation was too much of collateral.
    2. Pentile is also better for battery life. It's the reason why AMOLEDs continue to suck less display panel power as compared to LCDs as the pixel density goes up. Check DXO mark for specifics ( a good example- the Note 4).
    3. Pentile makes it easier to cram more pixels into a smaller space. That's why an S6 can have a 1440p display.

    They can go full RGB but yes, considering all the above factors, that will be a custom fab request, and will cost buyers more.

    Back to the article, 5.5 Pentile FHD is horrible. I had the OG Droid Razor with a 900p pentile panel on 4.7 inches or so, and it sucked.

    And @AT, my country's IPs are banned from the forums. I've ignored it for years. It's quite frustrating. Can you do something about it?
  • rxzlmn - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    I still have an SGS2 and there is no burn-in of any sort and also no sign of 'degradation'. I think it was purely a cost issue / technical issue in manufacturing that made them abandon that subpixel type of panel.
  • mortimerr - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    What makes a pentile amoled at that size and res so bad?
  • Eden-K121D - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    Note 7 is rumoured to be Full RGB amoled so is the 2017 iPhone 8? Samsung also indicated they were manufacturing custom equipment for OLED production like custom masks and stuff
  • Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    6GB of RAM. lol. I am gonna have to buy this thing just to see if my apps and web pages still are constantly forced to reload even though I am only using 1GB of RAM.
  • nandnandnand - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Please do so and report back your findings.
  • HyperText - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    I strongly second this, please!
  • 3DoubleD - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    There is no battery capacity data in the chart. How big is it?
  • megajen - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    3000 mAh.
  • Reflex - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Verizon support? Qi charging? Does Cyanogenmod still make alternative firmware for these for those of us avoiding Google?
  • aenews - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    The OnePlus 2 is GSM and doesn't support Sprint/Verizon. However, it does have full LTE Support on both T-Mobile and AT&T and carries the newer Band 12 LTE on T-Mobile as did the OnePlus 2. FYI Verizon does not allow Non-Verizon Phones to be brought to the network in the first place although the SIM is technically swapable. You can generally get a Nexus working if you get a hold of the right representative.
  • aenews - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    *OnePlus 3
  • Reflex - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    As the Nexus demonstrates, they do permit it but it has to go through a review process. They were mandated to permit access to their network as part of some of their spectrum buys, but they are permitted to require a review/certification process. Google has gone through the hoops, but virtually no one else has.

    For me it is irrelevant. No Verizon means no consideration. I wish it did, I'd consider it.
  • Chaser - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    That's completely untrue with Verizon. I owned a Nexus 6P and had no problem whatsoever with starting service. Verizon couldn't care less as long as they are taking your money every month. But don't expect much support with any unbranded phone at the Verizon stores.
  • mortimerr - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    How difficult was it to get the nexus 6p on there? It's a pain not even being able to entertain the idea of using some of these great Chinese OEM devices cause they won't work on VZW.
    Even the unlocked HTC 10 is a headache to get working on their network.
  • 0razor1 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Don't see Qi happening with that chassis. I know it's possible ( I read a recent PR on a charger that worked through metal) but for a budget series (1+) don't see it happening.
  • Reflex - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Given that I have two car mounts and 3 desktop stands all using Qi, I won't consider a phone without it at this point. Its just too useful/convenient.
  • Meteor2 - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Is that a finger print reader on the front? What's OnePlus software like, is it close to stock Android?
  • Eden-K121D - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Yep and YEs .the closess implementation !like motorola
  • Meteor2 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Blimey. So flagship specs, stock Android, reasonable price... New best Android phone?
  • Eden-K121D - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    Nah Camera << galaxy S7. Best value for money but most certainly not best
  • peterfares - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Sticking with 1080p was smart but choosing a PenTile pattern was not. You need QHD for the PenTile to not be noticeable. Even then, it looks just about as good as a RGB 1080p screen, so I'm not sure why manufactures ever choose PenTile.
  • Spectrophobic - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Is PenTile really that bad? Will it matter even if the panel gets good measurements in tests?
    Never used a PenTile screen before. Always thought the difference between PenTile vs RGB stripe is like 16/44.1 vs 24/192 audio, technically superior but visually/audibly the same.

    That's my only quirk really. Otherwise almost the perfect phone for me. Hopefully the screen doesn't turn out to be like the Xperia X.
  • LtGoonRush - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Pentile is fine for casual use, but badly affects sharp edges and fine text. I think most users wouldn't generally object at that PPI level, but it does make the phone unusable for Google Cardboard. I also understand that much higher resolution is needed to render Chinese characters, where they prefer 1440p RGB displays. 1080p Pentile would seem to be right out.
  • Meteor2 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Pentile really is that bad. I had a HTC One S once - SuperAMOLED Pentile - and sent it back after a week because the screen was grainy with poor colours. LCD is far better. However that screen was 960px on its longest side and here we're talking 1920, so hopefully it's ok. If it is, this looks a great phone.
  • Kalessian - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    I'm not confident in the science behind it atm but pentile is said to increase longevity of blue OLED in the AMOLED screen. That's why they use it.
  • nagi603 - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    I wish people would stop jerking off to thinness.... I don't care if my giant ass phone is 2mm thinner, I want a bigger battery! More uptime! 10mm is more than thin enough.
  • Eden-K121D - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Yeah 9mm and 4500mah
  • aenews - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Agreed. I was satisfied with the OP2's thickness and a larger battery.
  • lmc5b - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    6 Gb is pointless unless the ROM is terrible. They should make a cheaper 3/4 Gb version, it would still be quite fast with the 820 and UFS2.0.
  • Spectrophobic - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Yes I agree. 640KB is all we need.

    But, I commend them for only releasing one SKU.
  • zeeBomb - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    640Kb? But yes I concur to a 4GB version. Already plenty fast...really wished the battery was kept the same or increased.
  • Spectrophobic - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    I thought that (lame) joke was obvious enough...

    But there isn't really a disadvantage with more RAM.
    It's not like 1440p displays where the GPU needs to work 77% more compared to 1080p (although negligible on 2D stuff and some phones downscale).
  • fanofanand - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    I got the joke and thought it was amusing :) I can't even take a phone call without my phone dropping all apps and that's with 2 GB. I don't care if all I need today is 4, I'd LOVE to have 6.
  • vortmax2 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Exactly, they are offering more than the competition for a reason...to sell their phones!
  • zodiacfml - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    6GB is pointless, for now. We don't know yet in the next 2 years.
  • zeeBomb - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Early one plus 3 device...let's get Rollin! Cause we all know the OP2 was a disaster!
  • zodiacfml - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link

    Great price versus the S7 and I don't like Samsung's glass backs.
    I'm just concerned with its Pentile display and no presence of the micro sd cart slot.

    I guess, I still have to wait for announcement of this year's Nexus.
  • AnotherGuy - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Excuse me, but wth do u need micro sd when u have 64gb of storage already in the phone?
  • R. Hunt - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Because 64 + 128 is better than just 64. Just speculating.
  • fanofanand - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Some people use their phones to store their photos, or songs, some might even store movies so they can watch them on a flight. To assume your use case is the only use case is beyond self-absorbed.
  • Spectrophobic - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Yes... but photos and movies shouldn't be permanently stored on a phone.
    Photos should be flushed to a mass storage back up and watched movies should be deleted.

    But sadly, there are A LOT of people nowadays whose only computer... is their phone.
  • mortimerr - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    I play high quality audio files from my phone (as long as the DAC is a wolfson and can process the audio correctly.)
    I'd rather not downsample that, and the streaming audio services I use can't even play it.
    64gbs for me gets used up plenty fast with local storage.
  • Spectrophobic - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Wolfson =/= automatically good.

    "Hi-Res" audio only sounds better because you believe it sounds better.
    Go lossy.
  • AnotherGuy - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    Well my use case is the general use case for a smartphone... just coz theres 1 in a million that wants to store high quality music or many many hd movies (really?)... doesnt mean 90% of people do that...
  • zodiacfml - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    I would have said exactly the same thing until I bought a decent pair of earphones from Shure. I Now, I want many of my FLAC music collection to be in my smartphone and probably some movies during long trips and holidays. I also have said exactly the same thing before my purchase of the Nexus5 16GB but apps and sizes just grew.

    Yes, I can delete and put things back before and after a holiday but a decent capacity micro sd card slot will help me avoid that task.
  • Spectrophobic - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    FLAC on your phone is a waste of space.
    It's purely cognitive bias.

    I hope you're not talking about the SE215... because that'll make FLAC even more of a waste.
  • vineeth14 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    what abt multiple roms??
    i mean linux on one plus three...
  • fanofanand - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    This phone has outstanding specs in most regards, but I still worry about the support to customers. I have read many a horror story of OnePlus support being anything but supportive of their existing customers. If they could fix that, they would probably triple their sales.
  • AnotherGuy - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    In general this phone looks like a real flagship killer in almost every aspect... a lot more than one plus one was. One thing they decided to really take the chance with here, is the price. $400 is still a little high imo. at $350 this really coulda been a great phone. I hope it does well for them.
  • Eden-K121D - Sunday, June 19, 2016 - link

    Camera trumps everything
  • vortmax2 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link

    "OnePlus is now using UFS 2.0 NAND instead of eMMC, which makes the remaining flagship vendors using eMMC look rather awkward in the market given that the OnePlus 3 comes in at under $400."

    Yes, pretty much every other Android phone maker is trying to maximize profits on the eMMC crap! Lame...
  • marty_himself - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    This is a very tempting offering.

    I have the Oneplus One and I regret getting it. The bugs and quirks are just too annoying, and in my opinion undo the price difference between these phones and say a Samsung alternative.

    I'm not sure what it is, but it must be the size of the userbase? If anything is majorly wrong with a Samsung it must get a lot of publicity and bugs will get squashed soon enough. With this, it seems bugs linger and may even be unique to your device. I am on CM though, maybe Oxygen OS is less buggy?

    Reviews never mention this and I find it a major factor in buying a phone.
  • zeeBomb - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link

    Does anyone know the speed of the RAM where it counts? How much MHz...1866?

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