They certainly look similar as far as the chassis goes. I feel like the "slim" variants don't need to be as unique, so they seem to end up like boxes that inevitably look similar.
I'm sitting here next to my PS4 (white Destiny edition, so ideally as close to this as you can get), and trust me, it looks nothing like this. Sure, they're both rectangular when seen from above, and feature a two-tile design that continues across the face. That's where the similarities end.
Well, the closest PS4 to this would be the Glacier White and not the Destiny Edition, that I too own. The Destiny Edition have a custom design plate, this XOS is totally white. So it's not the closest thing to this you can get. But it's close enough.
one thing I dont understand is the new controller uses bluetooth vs the WiFi direct the old controllers use. wonder why the change and the impact that has
Says right in the article: "and now supports Bluetooth for connection to PCs so that USB dongles are not needed. The controllers should still use WiFi to Xbox One as standard, as these controllers need to work with the original Xbox One consoles. "
Yeah, those things are annoying. I always hated when people would claim the PS3 was bigger or something, and fail to account for its integrated power supply, which actually mean it was smaller. I'd rather not have it sitting on the floor sucking up dirt lol
HDMI 2.0a is sufficient for HDR10 and Dolby Vision when transmitted as 10-bit 4:2:0 (a la UHD Blu-ray), but DisplayPort would be needed for HDR without chroma compression. My assumption is that Xbone HDR output will be limited to 4K streaming services using 4:2:0 and won't actually be used for games... but we'll see.
We live in a awfully era. New devices shouldn't be released that quick. This is a new high even for game consoles. I am sick and tired of constantly changing standards, trends, cables, CPU socket, RAM and so on. They are milking us to the bottom with logarithmic rate.
This whole 4k thing is crazy. HDMI standards are also big scam.
Why shouldn't new devices be released that quick? If you want new features you will upgrade. If developers want to support the largest pool of potential customers they will continue to support the original model. I mean, look at the iPhone model: games in 2016 still run on the 2011 iPhone 4S.
One of the main reasons is bugs. In the past 5 years or so, so many devices have been released with bugs, most of which are software related but not always. While a console from MS or Sony will certainly be software updated for 3-5 yeras, I bet you the release of the slim version will make the regular One obsolete sooner. I don't own a console, just giving you an example.
New features are great and welcome when they are done right. I would rather not have greatest and latest but with quirks then mature tech. Problem is, current generation (under 30) falls for this tricks and world gets flooded with technologies that in 2 years is landfill. You know how everyone says - "in 2 years, you will have to buy a new phone". It shouldn't be like that.
The lack of bugs in older technology comes from the simplicity. The design of a Pentium processor is multiple orders of magnitude simpler than a skylake i7. Serial and Parallel ports are basically electrical wires compared to USB-C. Old transport protocols didn't even have concepts of things like encryption, compression, etc. There were also a lot of bugs in older technologies as well, people often just worked around them in software.
The introduction of new technologies to replace the old ones is not done for a purpose. Much like software, new features are added, and people want those features. New RAM technologies require hardware changes to support lower power draw, faster latency. New CPU sockets are requires to interface between all the new features on the motherboard. Do you not want faster computers? Or are you satisfied with hard drives that still run at IDE speeds, good ol' serial ports running at a blasting 1KB/s, and let's not throw away those good 26K modems...
I've seen some people resistant to change, but you must take the cake.
Also nothing prevents you from owning a phone longer than two years. I still own a windows 7 phone from 2011 which still works great, which I only recently replaced cause I got a new phone for free. Otherwise I'd still be using it.
That is exactly my point - you just said it better. When technology scales up, they shouldn't scale up the bugs. That is what's wrong. Thanks for that thought.
Regarding the sockets - I get it, you were told that's the way it needs to be. Have you ever thought that a socket can be made extra provisioned, future proof - of course it can be. But that's where the "milking" part of my first comments comes in. They have to milk is every 2-3 years.
And regarding the phone example, if MS pulls the plug on WP7 your phone will be paper weight. Probably a dozens services will stop working, no longer access to store and so on.
>> That is exactly my point - you just said it better. When technology scales up, they shouldn't scale up the bugs. That is what's wrong. Thanks for that thought.
You make it sound like they purposely add bugs. I also think you forget that many first gen older technologies had issues too.
"Regarding sockets" - I think you have an extremely oversimplified view of hardware design. This isn't a piece of software where we'll just add a few reserved fields at the end of the struct in case we need to reuse them. The physical structure of the chip changes all the time, and the pin placement is that way for many reasons - one of which is physical distance to the components which it touches. You can't just "add a few pins in case we need them later" for new features.
As for phones - services and apps last longer than 2 years. The 2 year cycle is commonly only due to outdated hardware, not software. I know people who still have flip phones and some who have 5-6 year old iphones and android devices that still work great. How old exactly do you want to keep your technology, like 10 years at a time?
You must own an iPhone if you're worried about not buying a new phone every two years. My original iPhone 4S has been handed down to my daughter, and is still getting software updates; from 2011 to 2016. My iPhone 5S was handed down to my son. Even though iOS 10 isn't being pushed to the iPhone 4S, the 4S is still fully functional with iOS 9 5 years later.
You're looking at it wrong I think : It's not a new console, it won't allow you to play new games and it won't make the old games any better, so it's still the Xbox One and if you already own one you probably have no reason to change it.
On the other hand, since the Xbox one was released a lot of things have changed. The GPUs and CPUs have gotten smaller, more power efficient, and cheaper to produce, there is now some UHD content (4K resolution and High Dynamic Range colors), and the hdmi2.0 standard was created. So microsoft could either keep building the exact same console, or make use of these new technologies to make a smaller and less power hungry console, as well as adding UHD capabilities, so people who don't have an Xbox one yet will have a slightly better product if they buy it now.
I think It makes sense.
Of course some people will also "upgrade" their Xbox One to an Xbox One slim, but I really don't think that's the point, it's really more of a "refresh" of the existing product aimed at those who are still on the verge of buying one...
This is only the begging. Things will get worse. I hope humans will realize how we are turned into technology slaves. It sure sounded futuristic 10 years ago but it's the reality now.
But even still, what is the problem with that? Scorpio will almost certainly be 100% backwards compatible. And if you've ever worked with game developers before, trying to write new games to support consoles that are nearing 10 years old is a nightmare. The amount of effort that goes in to making the game run well on those old platforms is such an enormous engineering effort. Limitations on performance, memory, storage, OS/software are huge roadblocks that they have to design around that are otherwise complete non-issues on modern hardware. The 360/PS3 held back the industry for way too long.
You seem to be confused about what a scam is. What about the HDMI standards are a scam? CPU sockets have been changing every 2nd year for well over a decade. RAM has only changed once in the last 10 years, this is the same console as the previously released XBONE but in a smaller form factor. We are living in the era of the greatest technological advances in the history of history, but "We live in a awfully era" (sic). You are crazy, have no idea what you are talking about, or both.
He's just really old and longs for the time when computer technology was so far in its infancy that his job was still easy. Now that technology has evolved more than copper wires and electrical signals over a serial bus it is too complex for him and he can't keep up.
I am 31 (almost) and I live and work in IT and can afford to buy a new Xbox One daily. Seeing technology from inside (Enterprise) I assure you it's not me that suffers. Every day users (workers) are actually at biggest pain. It is going too fast for them, causing problems for us (IT staff).
>> I am 31 (almost) and I live and work in IT and can afford to buy a new Xbox One daily I'm 26, can also do so, and I work as a software developer low level graphics software in kernel mode, and occasionally influence the design of graphics hardware based on the software design. I work alongside people much older than myself as well who all share the same views as me.
But hey, I'm sure with your enterprise IT experience, you know way better than the engineers at Intel on how a new CPU socket should work.
Only if Engineers were the one deciding what goes for sale... it would be a beautiful world for us. Can you even imagine this?
You still don't get it. We have to change sockets, cables, connectors and etc because when a project starts, no one thinks about how to make something universal. All they think is how to make it so in 2 years, we need to have way better product so we can justify a complete re-design.
I just remember the recent trend that is about to become reality - removing 3.5mm headphones jack in favor of and adapter. Why? So the phone can be slimmer - that is not an engineer thinking there. And if it was - we are in big trouble.
Technology is moving Too fast?? Well we are in the era of exponential growth when it comes to technology and that is a GREAT thing. And we Definitely do not live in an "awfully era" as you said. Maybe we should stop the rate of technological breakthroughs so we can stop ALL the medical breakthroughs being achieved each day as well right? Might not be teh best example but I mean we already have chemo therapy so why develop and offer people something new that could work 100 times better and safer and more comfortably, why develop new medicines (that can work Way Better) when we already have our current medicines? No one is forced to upgrade Anything! If you do not like the new Xbox do not buy it, Very Simple. But please do not stop others from enjoying new tech advancements. You might be fine with 480p but that doesn't mean that no one else should be able to buy a console (or gpu) that can output 4K (or 8K or 16K). Its Freedom and an opinion and yes you are entitled to yours but that does not mean everyone else has to live by your preferences. If anything you can argue that we are being drip fed newer technologies and I would agree with you and I certainly believe we should already have access to far greater technologies than are currently available in the consumer space.
:). See, you take those things as granted, as status quo. I don't. A CPU socket changes every 2 years not because it has to. It changes because there are people like you (and me as well) to buy the newer "all you ever need (untill next year) " item. If crazy means different - please call me crazy.
Remember Intel's Socket T (LGA 775)? That lasted from 2001 all the way to 2008! One, second let me take my rose colored glasses off... I remember that socket, and I (a 20something) remember just how confusing it was. the original i85x chipsets only supports 90nm processors. the Later generation i9xx series chipsets supported 65nm Pentium 4s. But certain 945 and 975 boards were potentially BIOS upgradeable to support the latest Core 2 CPUS! Which ones? better look closely because only some have the voltage regulator hardware to do it! 965 series chipsets supported all the 90nm and 65nm stuff! Then came the 3x and 4x series chipsets which dropped support for 90nm CPUs (some board did), but gained support for 45nm CPUs (only the 4x series officially, but some 3x series were compatible with a BIOS update).
The best part of all this was, a CPU bought from 2001 could fit in a motherboard bought in 2008! It just didn't do anything... The reverse was also possible, a CPU bought in 2008 also fit in a 2001 board... Only if you tried that, the board would supply 45nm CPU voltage (1.2v) with 90nm CPU voltage (1.6v?) and instantly kill it...
Intel was practically switching sockets every 2 years... Only they kept the socket the same and caused all sorts of confusion on what worked together and what didn't. Sometimes with expensive consequences... Socket changes is the cost of technological progress.
I remember certain 945/975 boards frying the first generation 65nm Core 2s, I remember waiting patiently for the 965 boards to come out so I didn't have to risk it. No, I don't miss those days...
"Updating a console design mid-generation is nothing new, we’ve seen it as far back as the original Playstation"
Actually I'm almost certain the Atari VCS/2600 had multiple revisions. I know for a fact the NES did (and Master System, Turbographix, Genesis, SNES, etc., etc., etc.)
This looks like a nice update, and I find it super attractive looking-BUT I want a user replaceable hard drive!
I hear XBox Scorpio Slim Founders Super Charged Dollar Edition will have user replaceable hard drive. It will also be the latest and best 2.3" (two point three) form factor with Sata enhanced (reversed pins) magnetic connector.
Some friendly advice for you: if you really hate the advancement of technology to this degree, you should stop reading tech web sites and attempting to contribute in the comments section. You will be happier, as will the rest of us.
I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox called project Scorpio the Xbox One Elite. But Damn, that is an exciting refresh from the catastrophe of the original Xbox one.
I think Microsoft is going to win in the end, with devs only having to target Windows 10 & DX12 they can release on two platforms on a single code base.
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Flunk - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Is it just me, or does it seem like the PS4 and Xbox One are converging?ImSpartacus - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
They certainly look similar as far as the chassis goes. I feel like the "slim" variants don't need to be as unique, so they seem to end up like boxes that inevitably look similar.Valantar - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I'm sitting here next to my PS4 (white Destiny edition, so ideally as close to this as you can get), and trust me, it looks nothing like this. Sure, they're both rectangular when seen from above, and feature a two-tile design that continues across the face. That's where the similarities end.taikamya - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Well, the closest PS4 to this would be the Glacier White and not the Destiny Edition, that I too own. The Destiny Edition have a custom design plate, this XOS is totally white. So it's not the closest thing to this you can get. But it's close enough.drothgery - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
They were pretty converged to begin with.skiboysteve - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
one thing I dont understand is the new controller uses bluetooth vs the WiFi direct the old controllers use. wonder why the change and the impact that hasskiboysteve - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
ah I see the new controller has wifi direct and bluetooth so its backwards compatible. Still not sure why they switched to bluetooth thoughjohncbennett - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
PC connectivity? That would be cool.inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Says right in the article:"and now supports Bluetooth for connection to PCs so that USB dongles are not needed. The controllers should still use WiFi to Xbox One as standard, as these controllers need to work with the original Xbox One consoles. "
skiboysteve - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
That was an update to the article. Very happy about this!inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Ah, gotcha. By the time I read the article this was already in. Articles need changelogs :)skiboysteve - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Freakin awesome that they integrated the power supply. That was horrible beforeWolfpup - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Yeah, those things are annoying. I always hated when people would claim the PS3 was bigger or something, and fail to account for its integrated power supply, which actually mean it was smaller. I'd rather not have it sitting on the floor sucking up dirt lolbryanlarsen - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
HDMI 2.0a supports HDR, no need for DisplayPort.nathanddrews - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
HDMI 2.0a is sufficient for HDR10 and Dolby Vision when transmitted as 10-bit 4:2:0 (a la UHD Blu-ray), but DisplayPort would be needed for HDR without chroma compression. My assumption is that Xbone HDR output will be limited to 4K streaming services using 4:2:0 and won't actually be used for games... but we'll see.Ian Cutress - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, I'll update the piece.nathanddrews - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/hdmi_2_0...djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
We live in a awfully era. New devices shouldn't be released that quick. This is a new high even for game consoles. I am sick and tired of constantly changing standards, trends, cables, CPU socket, RAM and so on. They are milking us to the bottom with logarithmic rate.This whole 4k thing is crazy. HDMI standards are also big scam.
michael2k - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Why shouldn't new devices be released that quick? If you want new features you will upgrade. If developers want to support the largest pool of potential customers they will continue to support the original model. I mean, look at the iPhone model: games in 2016 still run on the 2011 iPhone 4S.djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
One of the main reasons is bugs. In the past 5 years or so, so many devices have been released with bugs, most of which are software related but not always. While a console from MS or Sony will certainly be software updated for 3-5 yeras, I bet you the release of the slim version will make the regular One obsolete sooner. I don't own a console, just giving you an example.New features are great and welcome when they are done right. I would rather not have greatest and latest but with quirks then mature tech. Problem is, current generation (under 30) falls for this tricks and world gets flooded with technologies that in 2 years is landfill. You know how everyone says - "in 2 years, you will have to buy a new phone". It shouldn't be like that.
inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
The lack of bugs in older technology comes from the simplicity. The design of a Pentium processor is multiple orders of magnitude simpler than a skylake i7. Serial and Parallel ports are basically electrical wires compared to USB-C. Old transport protocols didn't even have concepts of things like encryption, compression, etc. There were also a lot of bugs in older technologies as well, people often just worked around them in software.The introduction of new technologies to replace the old ones is not done for a purpose. Much like software, new features are added, and people want those features. New RAM technologies require hardware changes to support lower power draw, faster latency. New CPU sockets are requires to interface between all the new features on the motherboard. Do you not want faster computers? Or are you satisfied with hard drives that still run at IDE speeds, good ol' serial ports running at a blasting 1KB/s, and let's not throw away those good 26K modems...
I've seen some people resistant to change, but you must take the cake.
Also nothing prevents you from owning a phone longer than two years. I still own a windows 7 phone from 2011 which still works great, which I only recently replaced cause I got a new phone for free. Otherwise I'd still be using it.
djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
That is exactly my point - you just said it better. When technology scales up, they shouldn't scale up the bugs. That is what's wrong. Thanks for that thought.Regarding the sockets - I get it, you were told that's the way it needs to be. Have you ever thought that a socket can be made extra provisioned, future proof - of course it can be. But that's where the "milking" part of my first comments comes in. They have to milk is every 2-3 years.
And regarding the phone example, if MS pulls the plug on WP7 your phone will be paper weight. Probably a dozens services will stop working, no longer access to store and so on.
inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
>> That is exactly my point - you just said it better. When technology scales up, they shouldn't scale up the bugs. That is what's wrong. Thanks for that thought.You make it sound like they purposely add bugs. I also think you forget that many first gen older technologies had issues too.
"Regarding sockets" - I think you have an extremely oversimplified view of hardware design. This isn't a piece of software where we'll just add a few reserved fields at the end of the struct in case we need to reuse them. The physical structure of the chip changes all the time, and the pin placement is that way for many reasons - one of which is physical distance to the components which it touches. You can't just "add a few pins in case we need them later" for new features.
As for phones - services and apps last longer than 2 years. The 2 year cycle is commonly only due to outdated hardware, not software. I know people who still have flip phones and some who have 5-6 year old iphones and android devices that still work great. How old exactly do you want to keep your technology, like 10 years at a time?
michael2k - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
You must own an iPhone if you're worried about not buying a new phone every two years. My original iPhone 4S has been handed down to my daughter, and is still getting software updates; from 2011 to 2016. My iPhone 5S was handed down to my son. Even though iOS 10 isn't being pushed to the iPhone 4S, the 4S is still fully functional with iOS 9 5 years later.inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I can't tell if you're being really sarcastic or are really that stupid.RiZad - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I think its the latterdjsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Smells like teen spirit.djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Not being sercastic. But I can tell you are under 2. May be 22.djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
25*BlueScreenJunky - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
You're looking at it wrong I think :It's not a new console, it won't allow you to play new games and it won't make the old games any better, so it's still the Xbox One and if you already own one you probably have no reason to change it.
On the other hand, since the Xbox one was released a lot of things have changed. The GPUs and CPUs have gotten smaller, more power efficient, and cheaper to produce, there is now some UHD content (4K resolution and High Dynamic Range colors), and the hdmi2.0 standard was created. So microsoft could either keep building the exact same console, or make use of these new technologies to make a smaller and less power hungry console, as well as adding UHD capabilities, so people who don't have an Xbox one yet will have a slightly better product if they buy it now.
I think It makes sense.
Of course some people will also "upgrade" their Xbox One to an Xbox One slim, but I really don't think that's the point, it's really more of a "refresh" of the existing product aimed at those who are still on the verge of buying one...
BlueScreenJunky - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Yeah well, of course the Xbox Scorpio was announced while I was typing that...djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
This is only the begging. Things will get worse. I hope humans will realize how we are turned into technology slaves. It sure sounded futuristic 10 years ago but it's the reality now.inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
But even still, what is the problem with that? Scorpio will almost certainly be 100% backwards compatible. And if you've ever worked with game developers before, trying to write new games to support consoles that are nearing 10 years old is a nightmare. The amount of effort that goes in to making the game run well on those old platforms is such an enormous engineering effort. Limitations on performance, memory, storage, OS/software are huge roadblocks that they have to design around that are otherwise complete non-issues on modern hardware. The 360/PS3 held back the industry for way too long.fanofanand - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
You seem to be confused about what a scam is. What about the HDMI standards are a scam? CPU sockets have been changing every 2nd year for well over a decade. RAM has only changed once in the last 10 years, this is the same console as the previously released XBONE but in a smaller form factor. We are living in the era of the greatest technological advances in the history of history, but "We live in a awfully era" (sic). You are crazy, have no idea what you are talking about, or both.inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
He's just really old and longs for the time when computer technology was so far in its infancy that his job was still easy. Now that technology has evolved more than copper wires and electrical signals over a serial bus it is too complex for him and he can't keep up.djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I am 31 (almost) and I live and work in IT and can afford to buy a new Xbox One daily. Seeing technology from inside (Enterprise) I assure you it's not me that suffers. Every day users (workers) are actually at biggest pain. It is going too fast for them, causing problems for us (IT staff).inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
>> I am 31 (almost) and I live and work in IT and can afford to buy a new Xbox One dailyI'm 26, can also do so, and I work as a software developer low level graphics software in kernel mode, and occasionally influence the design of graphics hardware based on the software design. I work alongside people much older than myself as well who all share the same views as me.
But hey, I'm sure with your enterprise IT experience, you know way better than the engineers at Intel on how a new CPU socket should work.
djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Only if Engineers were the one deciding what goes for sale... it would be a beautiful world for us. Can you even imagine this?You still don't get it. We have to change sockets, cables, connectors and etc because when a project starts, no one thinks about how to make something universal. All they think is how to make it so in 2 years, we need to have way better product so we can justify a complete re-design.
I just remember the recent trend that is about to become reality - removing 3.5mm headphones jack in favor of and adapter. Why? So the phone can be slimmer - that is not an engineer thinking there. And if it was - we are in big trouble.
Meteor2 - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
B*llocks.SunnyNW - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Technology is moving Too fast?? Well we are in the era of exponential growth when it comes to technology and that is a GREAT thing. And we Definitely do not live in an "awfully era" as you said. Maybe we should stop the rate of technological breakthroughs so we can stop ALL the medical breakthroughs being achieved each day as well right? Might not be teh best example but I mean we already have chemo therapy so why develop and offer people something new that could work 100 times better and safer and more comfortably, why develop new medicines (that can work Way Better) when we already have our current medicines? No one is forced to upgrade Anything! If you do not like the new Xbox do not buy it, Very Simple. But please do not stop others from enjoying new tech advancements. You might be fine with 480p but that doesn't mean that no one else should be able to buy a console (or gpu) that can output 4K (or 8K or 16K). Its Freedom and an opinion and yes you are entitled to yours but that does not mean everyone else has to live by your preferences. If anything you can argue that we are being drip fed newer technologies and I would agree with you and I certainly believe we should already have access to far greater technologies than are currently available in the consumer space.Michael Bay - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
You sound exactly like the bern victims do.inighthawki - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I'm not really sure where you're going with that one...djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
:). See, you take those things as granted, as status quo. I don't. A CPU socket changes every 2 years not because it has to. It changes because there are people like you (and me as well) to buy the newer "all you ever need (untill next year) " item. If crazy means different - please call me crazy.JoeyJoJo123 - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
You're crazy.Eden-K121D - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Yeah we need a Unified standard with low latency high bandwidth connection for Uncompressed 8K 60Hz with 4:4:4 chroma subsampling withoutweilin - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link
Remember Intel's Socket T (LGA 775)? That lasted from 2001 all the way to 2008! One, second let me take my rose colored glasses off... I remember that socket, and I (a 20something) remember just how confusing it was. the original i85x chipsets only supports 90nm processors. the Later generation i9xx series chipsets supported 65nm Pentium 4s. But certain 945 and 975 boards were potentially BIOS upgradeable to support the latest Core 2 CPUS! Which ones? better look closely because only some have the voltage regulator hardware to do it! 965 series chipsets supported all the 90nm and 65nm stuff! Then came the 3x and 4x series chipsets which dropped support for 90nm CPUs (some board did), but gained support for 45nm CPUs (only the 4x series officially, but some 3x series were compatible with a BIOS update).The best part of all this was, a CPU bought from 2001 could fit in a motherboard bought in 2008! It just didn't do anything... The reverse was also possible, a CPU bought in 2008 also fit in a 2001 board... Only if you tried that, the board would supply 45nm CPU voltage (1.2v) with 90nm CPU voltage (1.6v?) and instantly kill it...
Intel was practically switching sockets every 2 years... Only they kept the socket the same and caused all sorts of confusion on what worked together and what didn't. Sometimes with expensive consequences... Socket changes is the cost of technological progress.
weilin - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link
Why isn't there an edit feature...I remember certain 945/975 boards frying the first generation 65nm Core 2s, I remember waiting patiently for the 965 boards to come out so I didn't have to risk it. No, I don't miss those days...
WinterCharm - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Took a leaf out of apples book, I see.Wolfpup - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
"Updating a console design mid-generation is nothing new, we’ve seen it as far back as the original Playstation"Actually I'm almost certain the Atari VCS/2600 had multiple revisions. I know for a fact the NES did (and Master System, Turbographix, Genesis, SNES, etc., etc., etc.)
This looks like a nice update, and I find it super attractive looking-BUT I want a user replaceable hard drive!
djsvetljo - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I hear XBox Scorpio Slim Founders Super Charged Dollar Edition will have user replaceable hard drive. It will also be the latest and best 2.3" (two point three) form factor with Sata enhanced (reversed pins) magnetic connector.bji - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Some friendly advice for you: if you really hate the advancement of technology to this degree, you should stop reading tech web sites and attempting to contribute in the comments section. You will be happier, as will the rest of us.Impulses - Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - link
The Sega Genesis has multiple revs and add ons... 32X (which first brought Doom to consoles), Sega CD, etc.jaydee - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
Pre-order for December 30 release date? Really?SunnyNW - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link
Comes out this Augustdragonsqrrl - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
I have to admit, that casis design looks pretty sleek. I definitely think it's an improvement over the original XBox One.zeeBomb - Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - link
I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox called project Scorpio the Xbox One Elite. But Damn, that is an exciting refresh from the catastrophe of the original Xbox one.joe94 - Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - link
Looks like Microsoft bought a PS4, took it apart to see what is going on, and then had a go themselves. Better make it white so nobody notices...KingofL337 - Thursday, June 16, 2016 - link
I think Microsoft is going to win in the end, with devs only having to target Windows 10 & DX12 they can release on two platforms on a single code base.