I suspect this is going to be a budget storage drive, so the quad core 8 channel controller is more than enough. These budget turnkey controllers have also been surprisingly reliable.
The problem is at $700+ this isn't a budget drive. The 850 EVO costs less and will undeniably be faster. And we will see how hard Micron/Crucial push the market prices downward with the BX/MX300 based on Marvell silicon (my personal favorite NAND controllers.)
I'm surprised all these 3rd party drives are still making manufactures money when you consider the goliaths they compete against. Micron, Samsung and Sandisk collectively have 90% of the OEM market, so I guess they are surviving simply off of end users?
I have a 60GB Patriot SSD in an old Asus Eee PC netbook and it's been a problem-free drive for two years now. I'm relatively sure it has a Phison controller in it, but I've never bothered really looking into it. It was purchased based on low cost rather than any performance concerns though it is a lot faster than the 160GB hard drive it replaced, making the intolerably slow single core Atom n450 a little more usable. Of course its running Linux and is mostly a word processor and lightweight web surfing system so I demand very little out of it except for the occasional Steam in-home stream from my headless desktop. Nonetheless, I'd entertain another Patriot SSD, but not at 2TB, probably some much lower capacity because I don't and am very unlikely to need much more than 60GB of storage capacity in the foreseeable future.
"Patriot does not reveal retail price of its Ignite 2 TB SSD today because it only plans to sell it sometimes in Q4. Nonetheless, IT SHOULD NOT BE TOO HIGH AND $700 - $900 PRICE-RANGE seems to be more or less VIABLE."
There really is no point to announcing high capacity SSD drives, they are always always always monopolized to be the exact same price as every other competitor.
seagate buys samsung hdd division, and also lacie, western digital buys hitachi drives and sandisk, then micron and samsung are in ssd. So 4 real big competitor for the whole hdd and ssd catalog. And then they say that only states can print money. My ass.
You don't seem to know much of the market. There are dozens of currently no-name SSD makers around the globe (specifically thinking of China) that make drives that are stupid cheaper. The initial investment for making SSDs is lower than for mechanical hard drives because you basically need a robot that lays out PCBs, not a pile of fine mechanics that require clean rooms to assemble.
None of those dozens of Chinese manufacturers make their own NAND flash, and only a few of them claim to make their own SSD controllers. They all buy NAND from one of four sources and controllers from about three sources. They differentiate only on branding, not technology. Only the large operations like Lite-On/Plextor, ADATA, and the vertically integrated companies have the resources to do things like develop their own controller firmware. When the fly by night Chinese brands offer better price per GB, it's because they use lower quality flash and have worse QA and support.
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Flunk - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link
Phison PS3110-S10? No thanks.Samus - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
I suspect this is going to be a budget storage drive, so the quad core 8 channel controller is more than enough. These budget turnkey controllers have also been surprisingly reliable.The problem is at $700+ this isn't a budget drive. The 850 EVO costs less and will undeniably be faster. And we will see how hard Micron/Crucial push the market prices downward with the BX/MX300 based on Marvell silicon (my personal favorite NAND controllers.)
I'm surprised all these 3rd party drives are still making manufactures money when you consider the goliaths they compete against. Micron, Samsung and Sandisk collectively have 90% of the OEM market, so I guess they are surviving simply off of end users?
humanentity - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
so I guess they are surviving simply off of MISSINFORMED? end users?bananaforscale - Saturday, June 4, 2016 - link
Yay FUD! Besides, even Sandisk uses generic Marvell controllers in some(?) products. Reliability is all in the firmware and NAND.Ascaris - Friday, June 10, 2016 - link
Competition is good.cgeorgescu - Friday, June 10, 2016 - link
So you say they should sell to Apple users?BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link
I have a 60GB Patriot SSD in an old Asus Eee PC netbook and it's been a problem-free drive for two years now. I'm relatively sure it has a Phison controller in it, but I've never bothered really looking into it. It was purchased based on low cost rather than any performance concerns though it is a lot faster than the 160GB hard drive it replaced, making the intolerably slow single core Atom n450 a little more usable. Of course its running Linux and is mostly a word processor and lightweight web surfing system so I demand very little out of it except for the occasional Steam in-home stream from my headless desktop. Nonetheless, I'd entertain another Patriot SSD, but not at 2TB, probably some much lower capacity because I don't and am very unlikely to need much more than 60GB of storage capacity in the foreseeable future.Michael Bay - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link
700-900$? On Phison hardware? When Samsung is selling 850EVO with the same capacity for 600$?vladx - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link
Agree it's crazy to think many will buy them at that price.chrnochime - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link
because not everyone wants to buy samsung/TLC. Hard concept to grasp I know.bug77 - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
The only difference between Samsung's TLC and MLC is that the former is cheaper.3ogdy - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link
"Patriot does not reveal retail price of its Ignite 2 TB SSD today because it only plans to sell it sometimes in Q4. Nonetheless, IT SHOULD NOT BE TOO HIGH AND $700 - $900 PRICE-RANGE seems to be more or less VIABLE."Ha.
Haha.
Hahaha.
humanentity - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
dont be cruel. let them dream.FastCarsLike - Monday, June 13, 2016 - link
There really is no point to announcing high capacity SSD drives, they are always always always monopolized to be the exact same price as every other competitor.Gothmoth - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
2TB SSD should be 300 euro now. everything above that is a rippoff.humanentity - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
seagate buys samsung hdd division, and also lacie, western digital buys hitachi drives and sandisk, then micron and samsung are in ssd. So 4 real big competitor for the whole hdd and ssd catalog. And then they say that only states can print money. My ass.bananaforscale - Saturday, June 4, 2016 - link
You don't seem to know much of the market. There are dozens of currently no-name SSD makers around the globe (specifically thinking of China) that make drives that are stupid cheaper. The initial investment for making SSDs is lower than for mechanical hard drives because you basically need a robot that lays out PCBs, not a pile of fine mechanics that require clean rooms to assemble.Billy Tallis - Sunday, June 5, 2016 - link
None of those dozens of Chinese manufacturers make their own NAND flash, and only a few of them claim to make their own SSD controllers. They all buy NAND from one of four sources and controllers from about three sources. They differentiate only on branding, not technology. Only the large operations like Lite-On/Plextor, ADATA, and the vertically integrated companies have the resources to do things like develop their own controller firmware. When the fly by night Chinese brands offer better price per GB, it's because they use lower quality flash and have worse QA and support.