Now we're getting mobo-specific binnings? This is getting out of hand. For half what that kit costs you can buy double (32GB!) the amount of DDR4 from Corsair itself! (won't be Dominator but it's still in the LPX Vengeance line and 2400+ w/decent timings)
Ok maybe not half, but close, I paid like $240 for my 4x8GB LPX almost a year ago and I'm pretty sure I saw it under $140 recently. I like how AT runs their memory tests to find the optimal sweet spot, but at some point much more RAM >> any minute performance difference. DDR4 prices are definitely trending down fast tho...
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"
Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
Not sure how that reply has anything to do with my post... I was comparing this to better value RAM in Corsair's OWN lineup... AND they offer those other options in red, blue, and black most of the time! (which I do care about btw)
These being red doesn't make them special in the least bit, plenty of DIMMMs with red spreaders within and outside of Corsair's lineup.
They're charging more money for memory that has a "bonus" non-XMP profile that lets it run at a higher clockspeed on very particular motherboards.
It still runs at 3200MHz CL16 speeds on non Asus ROG motherboards, due to the embedded XMP profile.
The question is, though, why not just make the XMP profile a 3333MHZ CL16 profile and enable the same compatibility across all motherboard vendors? Additionally, since the Asus ROG stickers aren't visible when installed on most systems, why not just sell Asus ROG branded red aluminum inserts for Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM for people to exchange into the RAM heatspreader?
You could even take it a bit further and just offer an entire host of anodized aluminum colors besides just ROG red. You could do Nvidia green, Zotac AMP! yellow/orange, Asus Signature series white, etc.
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"
Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
I'm tired of these huge heatspreaders and tall memory that simply don't fit under some air cooling systems. I know closed loop water is a popular thing but some people still run on air and can't use stuff like this.
Same here, but clearly this is a product that's not intended for us. There are people out there that literally want tall and flashy RAM sticks, for whatever reason. I just get the cheapest set from a reputable supplier, at a decent/standard speed (DDR3-1600, DDR4-2400, etc) at the capacity I want, in a standard low-profile form factor, regardless of color, aesthetics, etc.
That being said, we have a number of cost effective options available for us. And the people who want this overpriced and gaudy stuff get to have this, if they want it.
In a way, you said it yourself. Some people who have liquid coolers do have space for it, and surely a subset of them have Windows in their case and like to style it.
It's a perfectly valid point of view to not understand it, but at the same time, just accept that some people like the flash of color. We are in no place to tell them how to spend their money; if red Ram sticks make them happy, spend away :P
Luckily for you (or me, or Corsair) they also have the Vengeance LPX line... Still available in a bunch of speed/timing combinations, at better prices, and with one of the lowest profile spreaders around.
To be fair, the kind of person who pays the extra premium for Corsair Dominator Platinum memory doesn't run on air cooling.
And that premium price doesn't just come from RAM performance. Specifically, with the Corsair Dominator Platinums, you're also paying extra for the aesthetics of the RAM heatsink / aluminum bar, and the LED illumination underneath that bar.
Yeah. There are sheep out there that believe that only Dominator Platinum series RAM is the best-of-all-time.
Even with a 3200MHz CAS13 set, the performance differential from a standard 2400MHz set will be nearly indistinguishable for the majority of applications.
There are some games that are more sensitive to memory bandwidth these days, but using DDR4 beyond 3000 MHz or 3200 MHz, diminishing returns definitely kick in. Really though, this is just ridiculous.
It could be valid if it achieved those timings with a Command Rate setting of 1. But I can't even find any information on the CR on their tech sheet, much like most producers have given up providing CR-Info for DDR4. I guess the only CR1-Sets out are DDR4-2400.
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"
Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
So it's been 11 days since the gtx 1080 reviews went live. Can you please update us, or post the review? Toms Hardware has already taken a deep dive into the architecture, maybe you could use some of that since you are both owned by Purch
Unless there is some hidden super feature that magically improves performance 10% or more... what the hell is purpose of this ROG RAM? Except fooling less educated audience into buying it? If this came at least 6 or 9 months ago then it could find it's place... nowadays it seems to come too late and too high. And that's coming from person who's running on Corsair RAMs since DDR-400.
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"
Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
Was it really necessary to spam that same out of context reply half a dozen times across the comments section? I'm seldom one to cry shill, but this smacks of paid astroturfing... Hopefully you're getting something in exchange for the effort anyway.
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JoeyJoJo123 - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Moooooooom! I need my gamin' RAM!!! It's gonna boooost my FPS in Cowwadoody!Impulses - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Now we're getting mobo-specific binnings? This is getting out of hand. For half what that kit costs you can buy double (32GB!) the amount of DDR4 from Corsair itself! (won't be Dominator but it's still in the LPX Vengeance line and 2400+ w/decent timings)Impulses - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Ok maybe not half, but close, I paid like $240 for my 4x8GB LPX almost a year ago and I'm pretty sure I saw it under $140 recently. I like how AT runs their memory tests to find the optimal sweet spot, but at some point much more RAM >> any minute performance difference. DDR4 prices are definitely trending down fast tho...kent1146 - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
Azethoth - Sunday, May 29, 2016 - link
I care about aesthetics, but I value 64GB over this measly 16GB.Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link
Not sure how that reply has anything to do with my post... I was comparing this to better value RAM in Corsair's OWN lineup... AND they offer those other options in red, blue, and black most of the time! (which I do care about btw)These being red doesn't make them special in the least bit, plenty of DIMMMs with red spreaders within and outside of Corsair's lineup.
BillyONeal - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
So wait, they're charging more money for memory that works in fewer motherboards? O_OJoeyJoJo123 - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
They're charging more money for memory that has a "bonus" non-XMP profile that lets it run at a higher clockspeed on very particular motherboards.It still runs at 3200MHz CL16 speeds on non Asus ROG motherboards, due to the embedded XMP profile.
The question is, though, why not just make the XMP profile a 3333MHZ CL16 profile and enable the same compatibility across all motherboard vendors? Additionally, since the Asus ROG stickers aren't visible when installed on most systems, why not just sell Asus ROG branded red aluminum inserts for Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM for people to exchange into the RAM heatspreader?
You could even take it a bit further and just offer an entire host of anodized aluminum colors besides just ROG red. You could do Nvidia green, Zotac AMP! yellow/orange, Asus Signature series white, etc.
kent1146 - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
cmdrdredd - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
I'm tired of these huge heatspreaders and tall memory that simply don't fit under some air cooling systems. I know closed loop water is a popular thing but some people still run on air and can't use stuff like this.JoeyJoJo123 - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Same here, but clearly this is a product that's not intended for us. There are people out there that literally want tall and flashy RAM sticks, for whatever reason. I just get the cheapest set from a reputable supplier, at a decent/standard speed (DDR3-1600, DDR4-2400, etc) at the capacity I want, in a standard low-profile form factor, regardless of color, aesthetics, etc.That being said, we have a number of cost effective options available for us. And the people who want this overpriced and gaudy stuff get to have this, if they want it.
cmdrdredd - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
All true...just kind of saying I don't see the point in a round about way.Drumsticks - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
In a way, you said it yourself. Some people who have liquid coolers do have space for it, and surely a subset of them have Windows in their case and like to style it.It's a perfectly valid point of view to not understand it, but at the same time, just accept that some people like the flash of color. We are in no place to tell them how to spend their money; if red Ram sticks make them happy, spend away :P
Impulses - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Luckily for you (or me, or Corsair) they also have the Vengeance LPX line... Still available in a bunch of speed/timing combinations, at better prices, and with one of the lowest profile spreaders around.kent1146 - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
To be fair, the kind of person who pays the extra premium for Corsair Dominator Platinum memory doesn't run on air cooling.And that premium price doesn't just come from RAM performance. Specifically, with the Corsair Dominator Platinums, you're also paying extra for the aesthetics of the RAM heatsink / aluminum bar, and the LED illumination underneath that bar.
Lolimaster - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Why even bother when G.Skill have 2 Trident Z 3200 with cas14 and cas13?A "premium" 3200 with cas16? You must be joking.
JoeyJoJo123 - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Yeah. There are sheep out there that believe that only Dominator Platinum series RAM is the best-of-all-time.Even with a 3200MHz CAS13 set, the performance differential from a standard 2400MHz set will be nearly indistinguishable for the majority of applications.
tmr3 - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
There are some games that are more sensitive to memory bandwidth these days, but using DDR4 beyond 3000 MHz or 3200 MHz, diminishing returns definitely kick in. Really though, this is just ridiculous.ShieTar - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
It could be valid if it achieved those timings with a Command Rate setting of 1. But I can't even find any information on the CR on their tech sheet, much like most producers have given up providing CR-Info for DDR4. I guess the only CR1-Sets out are DDR4-2400.kent1146 - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
Major_Kusanagi - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Next thing to be branded ROG will be case standoffs.Impulses - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
Hah, I can see it now... Antique brass standoffs, the only studs worthy of your elite mobo.Flunk - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link
I've already preordered a ROG toaster.Morawka - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
So it's been 11 days since the gtx 1080 reviews went live. Can you please update us, or post the review? Toms Hardware has already taken a deep dive into the architecture, maybe you could use some of that since you are both owned by PurchHollyDOL - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
Unless there is some hidden super feature that magically improves performance 10% or more... what the hell is purpose of this ROG RAM? Except fooling less educated audience into buying it? If this came at least 6 or 9 months ago then it could find it's place... nowadays it seems to come too late and too high. And that's coming from person who's running on Corsair RAMs since DDR-400.kent1146 - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
"Why even bother when <other vendor> has <product XYZ>?"Because these are red.
You might not understand it, but there are people out there who care enough about aesthetics that they're willing to buy a product just because it matches the color scheme of the rest of their build, and are willing to pay a premium for that color matching.
Don't misunderstand me... these people are still enthusiasts. They aren't going to buy some obsolete piece-of-junk computer component just because of its color. They still want high-end parts. But when it comes to selecting *WHICH* high-end part they want, these people will pay a bit extra if that high-end part color matches their build.
Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link
Was it really necessary to spam that same out of context reply half a dozen times across the comments section? I'm seldom one to cry shill, but this smacks of paid astroturfing... Hopefully you're getting something in exchange for the effort anyway.versesuvius - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
God forbid. The more these kind of "innovations", the more happy I get with my current system. They don't build them like that anymore.FaaR - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link
" For improved cooling and visual aesthetics, the modules come with aluminum heat-spreaders and customizable LED lighting."Are these blue "run cooler" LEDs, or red "go faster" LEDs? Gamers need to know these things!