Aside from the fact that there is no Anandtech Office ( the writers all work out of their homes - scattered across a good sized chunk of the globe); those are Philips PR images.
I would think having the monitor at that angle would make it hard to "present" your work. wouldn't have been better if they were looking at it head on? the guy in the back probably can't even see whats on the screen. he seems very close to the 178degree threshold
Waiting for something similar (real upgrade for old HP LP3065). Ideally LCD/OLED display with 200dpi (2x standard), 32"-36" (=> 6k) and either high refresh rate (>120Hz) or at least G-Sync/Adaptive Sync. Unfortunately it looks like it will take years before someone starts offering such display...
@bug77: "This is actually a TV. They even kept the speakers..."
Well, ... , there are the display port(s). We don't really know how many as the text and table disagree, but you don't usually see those on TVs. That makes it a monitor, ... , right???
I might buy something like this instead of a TV, 4:4:4 and better latency than most TVs would make this good to play games on. It's not like I use the tuner in my current TV anyway.
There were some rumours that this suffers from severe burn-in. Personally I think 8K resolution is the minimum for proper 43" display, but I guess that anyone dreaming of 4x4-grid of full-hd screens, this is godsend.
Jeez. I just bought a nice HP 27xi (1920x1080, 27" (on sale for $200!)) for my rig and it seems huge compared to what I had (19" 1440x900 x 2 side by side). I can't even imagine having something this big.
had the same reaction when switching from a 24" to a 30" 2560x1600 HP ZR30w a few years ago... now i'm on a 48" Samsung curved TV (at a distance of 60cm)... it's all habit.
Its really not that bad. A 27inch 1440p display is 109 ppi, this is only 102 ppi, but not a huge difference. Especially since you probably will have it sitting farther back on a desk or wall mounted.
Been reading lots of reviews by early adopters and it seems to be hit and miss. Lots of people have no issues, but when they do burn in it looks pretty awful. I assume it is a batch issue.
I am really hot for this monitor... but I'll give it a few months for them to get QC under control on the screen burn problems. I could always return and try again... but I'd rather wait.
These kind of displays aren't all that new - I've bought the slightly smaller 40" BDM4065UC philips for work, and iiyama has the X4071UHSU-B1.
So, there *are* a few catches, but you may be able to live with them. First of all - there's no adjustable stand. This may make sense, but in the workplace (as opposed to as a TV) that's a bit of a pain. You can use the vesa-mount, but that increases price and reduces flexibility. I expected this downside.
The second downside (which I didn't expect) is that the 300cd/m2 brightness is surprisingly dark. That may be due to the fact that the smaller 40" variant uses MVA instead of IPS: though both have identical viewing angles, MVA tends to lose more brightness at angled viewing whereas IPS loses saturation and contrast - and at 40+ inches that means dark corners. But in a brightly lit office such as anything with any nearby sunshine (even if indirect or partially obstructed) the BDM4065UC becomes slighly hard to read - it's not unworkable, but being able to read a display is kind of the point (for us anyhow), so it's a major issue. We now try to only use them in workplaces that aren't near windows.
Incidentally, both BDM4065UC and X4071UHSU-B1 use the same panel; but iiyama chose to go with a 350cd/m2 backlight. Unless you've seen this display in person and know it's OK, I'd pick the better backlight over the extra 3 inches.
You're crazy, this monitor is awesome and I'm glad they told me it went on sale.
I have a korean monitor with the same specs and I'm thrilled that one with a US warranty and PRIME shipping exists. This korean one I'm sure won't last and now I have a very attractive alternative.
I have a Seiki 39 inch 4k tv I am using as a monitor. And it is too wide for a flat monitor, 34 inch is the outer limit where the angle of viewing at the edges does not make you actually move to see it. Any thing above 34 inch 4k has to be curved for the distance of being a monitor not TV (Curve needs to have a smaller radius). Build a 32-34 inch 4k at 500$ and I am in, or better still build a 36 inch curved 5k monitor under a thousand and I buy it today. The best bet today is apple 27 inch 5k which is too small and cramped for 5k. .. may be apple can build a 5k at 34 inch. since no one else is.
As an owner of the earlier 40" Philips BDM4065UC (UHD VA panel), I can certainly confirm that at this size the monitor definitely needs to be curved in order to have the best viewing experience.
I'm actually thinking if this was on my desk the top would be too high to see without craning my neck up (uncomfortable). I once went to a special IMAX theatre where there were gaps in the floor and you could see the screen *below* your seats too, which makes me wonder about having a glass back half of my desk and have this screen sunken down so my eye level is still around the centre vertically.
yeah the space below the monitor isn't used at all for obvious reasons but ergonomically it may be better to offset very big monitors below the keyboard level. You can do that if your keyboard and mouse sit on a board attached laterally to some support.
I guess something more realistic is a screen with thin rims which sits directly on the table instead of being elevated a few centimters from it like now.
It's an LG IPS panel, but does anyone know if it is an M+ panel?
M+ panels have a white subpixel that is shared between a pair of adjacent pixels, meaning that effectively the horizontal resolution is halved. It's actually fine for 4:2:2 and 4:2:0 chroma and this is what most tv signals and BluRay discs use. It is absolutely NOT ok for PC use with RBG or 4:4:4 chroma.
When I read comments about monitors the thing that stands out to me is high refresh rates. Is there (now that the Nvidia 1080 is out and claiming 4k at 100fps) a single cable standard that can do 4K at say 120hz-30hz Gsync.
Found it. There was an issue with the VA panel producing noticeable color banding. Anandtech should investigate this to help us judge if this issue can be ignored by some users or depending on usage.
FWIW, I've had two 4065s for over a year and there is no colour banding on either of them. Apart from setting DP to 1.2 and turning off ClearType in the OS, they are out-of-the-box. I hope that when Philips go 8K they stick with the same route they went on the 4065; it doesn't have to be 80", anywhere between 100 to 150dpi will be fine :D
I just ordered it. I am not a gamer, I want to use it for programming, which will give me a vast amount of real estate to see multiple documents side by side, at a resolution where I don't need glasses or leaning forward to see something. I don't need 100Hz for that.
Maybe its a problem of my macbook pro 15" late 2013. I can't set a refresh rate larger then 30Hz at 4K resolution. To get 60Hz refresh rate I have to set the monitor to 1080p, even not at 1920x1080 its possible to get a 60Hz refresh rate. Someone knows if with a better computer Philips BDM4350UC can run with a refresh rate of 60Hz at 4K resolution? I'm using this monitor for Sound Design and its crucial to know this. At 30Hz the response time is a lot larger then 5ms and makes impossible to put sounds in sync with video.
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mrvco - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
When I close my eyes and visualize the Anandtech offices, that is definitely not the image that appears.DanNeely - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Aside from the fact that there is no Anandtech Office ( the writers all work out of their homes - scattered across a good sized chunk of the globe); those are Philips PR images.Gothmoth - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
i bet is s stock photo of soem office jerke and the monitor was edited in (hint.. look at the hand in front of thr monitor... obviously edited).bebimbap - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - link
I would think having the monitor at that angle would make it hard to "present" your work. wouldn't have been better if they were looking at it head on? the guy in the back probably can't even see whats on the screen. he seems very close to the 178degree thresholdFlunk - Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - link
It's a stock photo, I've got the same one on a website I put together.rbarone69 - Monday, September 18, 2017 - link
The display is full wireless... Clearly.Grannypantzipper - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Gold.mutatio - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Someone show me a 36" 4K or 5K monitor with DP 1.3 and I'm in!qap - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Waiting for something similar (real upgrade for old HP LP3065). Ideally LCD/OLED display with 200dpi (2x standard), 32"-36" (=> 6k) and either high refresh rate (>120Hz) or at least G-Sync/Adaptive Sync. Unfortunately it looks like it will take years before someone starts offering such display...ddriver - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
What I'd like is a 3:1 6480x2160 around 42 inches, 99% adobe rgb.bug77 - Monday, May 16, 2016 - link
This is actually a TV. They even kept the speakers...BurntMyBacon - Monday, May 16, 2016 - link
@bug77: "This is actually a TV. They even kept the speakers..."Well, ... , there are the display port(s). We don't really know how many as the text and table disagree, but you don't usually see those on TVs. That makes it a monitor, ... , right???
Flunk - Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - link
I might buy something like this instead of a TV, 4:4:4 and better latency than most TVs would make this good to play games on. It's not like I use the tuner in my current TV anyway.DanNeely - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
1 or 2 display ports? The table and text disagree.paffinity - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
2 x MHL-HDMI and 2 x Display Portzepi - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
There were some rumours that this suffers from severe burn-in. Personally I think 8K resolution is the minimum for proper 43" display, but I guess that anyone dreaming of 4x4-grid of full-hd screens, this is godsend.DELL has one as well i think.
bill.rookard - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Jeez. I just bought a nice HP 27xi (1920x1080, 27" (on sale for $200!)) for my rig and it seems huge compared to what I had (19" 1440x900 x 2 side by side). I can't even imagine having something this big.bernstein - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
had the same reaction when switching from a 24" to a 30" 2560x1600 HP ZR30w a few years ago... now i'm on a 48" Samsung curved TV (at a distance of 60cm)... it's all habit.Sttm - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Its really not that bad. A 27inch 1440p display is 109 ppi, this is only 102 ppi, but not a huge difference. Especially since you probably will have it sitting farther back on a desk or wall mounted.smilingcrow - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
He's talking about the physical size not the PPI.inighthawki - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
No, he's talking about the size AND resolution - the ratio of which forms PPI."8K resolution is the minimum for proper 43" display"
smilingcrow - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
I replied to Bill who focussed on size. :)CaedenV - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Been reading lots of reviews by early adopters and it seems to be hit and miss. Lots of people have no issues, but when they do burn in it looks pretty awful. I assume it is a batch issue.I am really hot for this monitor... but I'll give it a few months for them to get QC under control on the screen burn problems. I could always return and try again... but I'd rather wait.
kpxgq - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
150+ ppi or bust!D. Lister - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
43" 5ms 4K@60Hz IPS, for $800? What's the catch? C'mon there has to be one.DanNeely - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
It's a TV size panel, the lower price reflects economies of scale from that.smilingcrow - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Which is not a catch. ;)emn13 - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - link
These kind of displays aren't all that new - I've bought the slightly smaller 40" BDM4065UC philips for work, and iiyama has the X4071UHSU-B1.So, there *are* a few catches, but you may be able to live with them. First of all - there's no adjustable stand. This may make sense, but in the workplace (as opposed to as a TV) that's a bit of a pain. You can use the vesa-mount, but that increases price and reduces flexibility. I expected this downside.
The second downside (which I didn't expect) is that the 300cd/m2 brightness is surprisingly dark. That may be due to the fact that the smaller 40" variant uses MVA instead of IPS: though both have identical viewing angles, MVA tends to lose more brightness at angled viewing whereas IPS loses saturation and contrast - and at 40+ inches that means dark corners. But in a brightly lit office such as anything with any nearby sunshine (even if indirect or partially obstructed) the BDM4065UC becomes slighly hard to read - it's not unworkable, but being able to read a display is kind of the point (for us anyhow), so it's a major issue. We now try to only use them in workplaces that aren't near windows.
emn13 - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - link
Incidentally, both BDM4065UC and X4071UHSU-B1 use the same panel; but iiyama chose to go with a 350cd/m2 backlight. Unless you've seen this display in person and know it's OK, I'd pick the better backlight over the extra 3 inches.Trefugl - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Give it FreeSync and I'd buy it. Seems like a limited number of Korean monitors are my only choice for large form factor 4k monitors with FreeSync...jwcalla - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
1 x D-Sub and 1 x DP 1.2. Who comes up with this stuff?I think multi-monitor is still the better way to go rather than having a TV on the desk.
MATHEOS - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
When Anandtech becomes that boring marketing site?I was reading that site since I can remember, Anand please come back
javishd - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
You're crazy, this monitor is awesome and I'm glad they told me it went on sale.I have a korean monitor with the same specs and I'm thrilled that one with a US warranty and PRIME shipping exists. This korean one I'm sure won't last and now I have a very attractive alternative.
Please get one and review it Anand!
CaedenV - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
Yes! please review!sharath.naik - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
I have a Seiki 39 inch 4k tv I am using as a monitor. And it is too wide for a flat monitor, 34 inch is the outer limit where the angle of viewing at the edges does not make you actually move to see it. Any thing above 34 inch 4k has to be curved for the distance of being a monitor not TV (Curve needs to have a smaller radius).Build a 32-34 inch 4k at 500$ and I am in, or better still build a 36 inch curved 5k monitor under a thousand and I buy it today. The best bet today is apple 27 inch 5k which is too small and cramped for 5k.
.. may be apple can build a 5k at 34 inch. since no one else is.
SStingel - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - link
As an owner of the earlier 40" Philips BDM4065UC (UHD VA panel), I can certainly confirm that at this size the monitor definitely needs to be curved in order to have the best viewing experience.stephenbrooks - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
I'm actually thinking if this was on my desk the top would be too high to see without craning my neck up (uncomfortable). I once went to a special IMAX theatre where there were gaps in the floor and you could see the screen *below* your seats too, which makes me wonder about having a glass back half of my desk and have this screen sunken down so my eye level is still around the centre vertically.Murloc - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
yeah the space below the monitor isn't used at all for obvious reasons but ergonomically it may be better to offset very big monitors below the keyboard level.You can do that if your keyboard and mouse sit on a board attached laterally to some support.
I guess something more realistic is a screen with thin rims which sits directly on the table instead of being elevated a few centimters from it like now.
khanov - Friday, May 13, 2016 - link
It's an LG IPS panel, but does anyone know if it is an M+ panel?M+ panels have a white subpixel that is shared between a pair of adjacent pixels, meaning that effectively the horizontal resolution is halved. It's actually fine for 4:2:2 and 4:2:0 chroma and this is what most tv signals and BluRay discs use. It is absolutely NOT ok for PC use with RBG or 4:4:4 chroma.
CuriousHomeBody - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
When I read comments about monitors the thing that stands out to me is high refresh rates. Is there (now that the Nvidia 1080 is out and claiming 4k at 100fps) a single cable standard that can do 4K at say 120hz-30hz Gsync.Death666Angel - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
Display Port 1.3 can do UHD @ 120Hz.zodiacfml - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
VA panel please. I don't know why they went with an IPS after making the Philips BDM4065UC.Probably, panel supply issues.
zodiacfml - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
Found it. There was an issue with the VA panel producing noticeable color banding.Anandtech should investigate this to help us judge if this issue can be ignored by some users or depending on usage.
timbotim - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
FWIW, I've had two 4065s for over a year and there is no colour banding on either of them. Apart from setting DP to 1.2 and turning off ClearType in the OS, they are out-of-the-box. I hope that when Philips go 8K they stick with the same route they went on the 4065; it doesn't have to be 80", anywhere between 100 to 150dpi will be fine :DThe_Assimilator - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
WTH is up with the D-sub connector?DanNeely - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even analog may die.Vatharian - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link
I'd buy this on an instant, if this hasn't IPS screen. The 40 inch model had VA with 5600:1 contrast ratio. Why, why downgrade?surt - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - link
I can't imagine who is buying 60hz panels any more. Have you ever looked at a faster panel? You won't go back.cm2187 - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - link
I just ordered it. I am not a gamer, I want to use it for programming, which will give me a vast amount of real estate to see multiple documents side by side, at a resolution where I don't need glasses or leaning forward to see something. I don't need 100Hz for that.flavor30 - Tuesday, July 12, 2016 - link
Where are you finding this for $799?MarcoV - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
Maybe its a problem of my macbook pro 15" late 2013. I can't set a refresh rate larger then 30Hz at 4K resolution. To get 60Hz refresh rate I have to set the monitor to 1080p, even not at 1920x1080 its possible to get a 60Hz refresh rate.Someone knows if with a better computer Philips BDM4350UC can run with a refresh rate of 60Hz at 4K resolution? I'm using this monitor for Sound Design and its crucial to know this. At 30Hz the response time is a lot larger then 5ms and makes impossible to put sounds in sync with video.