150W heat source sitting a few inches from your ... lap. :o
This is highly suggestive that they don't expect to have a 4 to 5 SP TFLOPS mobile 16nm product *available* anytime soon. Sure, pro solutions have a longer validation time, but if the difference is 75W and being able to father children in the future :p
I wouldn't expect them to have one available quickly on a new process node. Besides, the market starts now and they don't want zero presence in the market for 6 months.
And do people really use those things on their laps? I'd put it on a desk or table or cart. Hell if you're using it with an HMD you can put it on the floor as long as you have an input device.
I dumped my last "desktop replacement laptop" more than a decade ago and never looked back. I know there is still a market for these behemoths, but it isn't what it used to be and won't be again.
"And do people really use those things on their laps?"
For what it's worth, I typically find that the answer is no. Laptops that big are meant to be portable desktops (hence the DTR category), not actually computers you use in your lap.
Pretty much this. Had one for work as a consultant, used one for over a year with broken battery... it was always on a desk, always plugged in either at the office, at a client or at home. Carried it in a backpack which made weight of little concern. It's a niche use but sometimes it's just right.
Even if they have a compatible product done soon getting it validated will take another 1-3 quarters. So if they release a comparable performance Pascal part in 3 months we might not see a version like this until 2017
Look on the bright side, if your spouse is technically savvy and she buys a laptop with a Quadro m5500 for you, it's safe to assume she's not interested in having (more) children with you.
At any rate, 150W is a bit much for a laptop chassis. Although I'm a favorable toward laptops and other smaller, more portable computing platforms, I think there's a point where it's more prudent to purchase a desktop system. If integrated graphics are sufficient for your needs, then it makes sense to ignore desktops and go for a laptop in many circumstances. But, if you require a +75W GPU, its really time to toss portability out the window.
There are many laptops out there now 300W, and beyond.
Some people have 2x 330W PSUs hooked up, just for overclocking.
Chassis have got much better at getting rid of the heat, and not burning your lap. But when gaming, you a) wouldn't have it on your lap anyway, and b) if you did, then you'd feel the heat from the rear, not so much from the chassis.
On iGPU, things are much different.
With regard to the article, notebookcheck is usually first to list a new mobile GPU, from Chinese leaks, but alas in this case they have nothing in their chart for a change, so well done AT.
I wonder if its standard mxm slot, or the massive gpu card, that is the '980 Notebook'
I never really liked that argument. I spend a fair amount of time away from home - and still need the power where ever I happen to be. Yes I run 100W GPU's. No, it really isn't a problem.
You can support optimus on the internal panel (with an optional switch) while having the external outputs directly wired into the dgpu. The gpu gets permanently activated when plugged into an external monitor but that's usually at a desk anyway.
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Notmyusualid - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
Well my 880M GTXs (8GB each) bombed the VR test. So I guess it has a market.AMD & Nvidia should know by now there is a truck load of us waiting to buy a mobile GPU < 28nm....
psychobriggsy - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
150W heat source sitting a few inches from your ... lap. :oThis is highly suggestive that they don't expect to have a 4 to 5 SP TFLOPS mobile 16nm product *available* anytime soon. Sure, pro solutions have a longer validation time, but if the difference is 75W and being able to father children in the future :p
Yojimbo - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
I wouldn't expect them to have one available quickly on a new process node. Besides, the market starts now and they don't want zero presence in the market for 6 months.And do people really use those things on their laps? I'd put it on a desk or table or cart. Hell if you're using it with an HMD you can put it on the floor as long as you have an input device.
mrvco - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
I dumped my last "desktop replacement laptop" more than a decade ago and never looked back. I know there is still a market for these behemoths, but it isn't what it used to be and won't be again.lazarpandar - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
Desktop replacements are better now than they ever have been. Might be worth looking back!Ryan Smith - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
"And do people really use those things on their laps?"For what it's worth, I typically find that the answer is no. Laptops that big are meant to be portable desktops (hence the DTR category), not actually computers you use in your lap.
Kjella - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
Pretty much this. Had one for work as a consultant, used one for over a year with broken battery... it was always on a desk, always plugged in either at the office, at a client or at home. Carried it in a backpack which made weight of little concern. It's a niche use but sometimes it's just right.testbug00 - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
Even if they have a compatible product done soon getting it validated will take another 1-3 quarters. So if they release a comparable performance Pascal part in 3 months we might not see a version like this until 2017BrokenCrayons - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
Look on the bright side, if your spouse is technically savvy and she buys a laptop with a Quadro m5500 for you, it's safe to assume she's not interested in having (more) children with you.At any rate, 150W is a bit much for a laptop chassis. Although I'm a favorable toward laptops and other smaller, more portable computing platforms, I think there's a point where it's more prudent to purchase a desktop system. If integrated graphics are sufficient for your needs, then it makes sense to ignore desktops and go for a laptop in many circumstances. But, if you require a +75W GPU, its really time to toss portability out the window.
mrvco - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
If your spouse shows up with a 5500m based "laptop", then It's either no more kids or (s)he is planning on bludgeoning you to death in your sleep.Notmyusualid - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
There are many laptops out there now 300W, and beyond.Some people have 2x 330W PSUs hooked up, just for overclocking.
Chassis have got much better at getting rid of the heat, and not burning your lap. But when gaming, you a) wouldn't have it on your lap anyway, and b) if you did, then you'd feel the heat from the rear, not so much from the chassis.
On iGPU, things are much different.
With regard to the article, notebookcheck is usually first to list a new mobile GPU, from Chinese leaks, but alas in this case they have nothing in their chart for a change, so well done AT.
I wonder if its standard mxm slot, or the massive gpu card, that is the '980 Notebook'
Ryan Smith - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
I fully expect it's identical to the GTX 980 Notebook. Same configs, same TDP.waldojim42 - Friday, April 8, 2016 - link
I never really liked that argument. I spend a fair amount of time away from home - and still need the power where ever I happen to be. Yes I run 100W GPU's. No, it really isn't a problem.Meaker10 - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
3D rendering - Plugged in - 150W - on a desk.2D desktop - battery - 10W - on your lap.
;)
Meaker10 - Monday, April 4, 2016 - link
You can support optimus on the internal panel (with an optional switch) while having the external outputs directly wired into the dgpu. The gpu gets permanently activated when plugged into an external monitor but that's usually at a desk anyway.tarqsharq - Tuesday, April 5, 2016 - link
The chart for memory clock has mixed units of Hz and bandwidth...