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October 2007 Midrange Buyer's Guide
by Jarred Walton on October 15, 2007 6:00 PM EST- Posted in
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Introduction
We get regular emails from people looking for advice on what sort of components to use in a new computer. Some people are looking at cheap budget builds for a friend or family member; others are looking at high-end gaming setups capable of smoking the latest consoles. However, by far the most common type of computer is the midrange system, and that's the category we will be covering today.
Depending on whom you're talking to, midrange can start as low as $1000 and extend all the way up to around $2000, which undoubtedly gives a lot of flexibility in terms of choosing components. We're going to split the middle and shoot for about $1500 for each of the systems we configure today, which will include everything that's necessary for the intended market. You can spend more or less than that with a little bit of effort, and certainly those who are looking to reuse a few components from their current system will be able to save some money.
For this guide, we're going to put together four configurations that target different user types. Gaming is something we are asked about frequently, so we will start by putting together two gaming systems - one based on an AMD platform and the other using an Intel platform. We'll follow that with a Home Theater PC (HTPC) and an entry level workstation. As always, many of the choices can be debated, and picking out a single component that is "best" is usually a matter of perspective. This is particularly true for our HTPC and workstation configurations, but we will cover that in more detail momentarily.
Finally, before we get to the actual systems, we would be remiss if we didn't point out all of the upcoming hardware launches. AMD's Phenom processors (dual-core and quad-core) should be launching within the next couple of months, potentially bringing them back into the raw performance competition with Intel (as opposed to right now where they're mostly competing on price/performance). Along with the new processors, we expect to see a lot of new chipset launches for the AMD side from both AMD and NVIDIA. It's been a rough year for AMD, with falling prices and market share. We'll have to wait a bit longer to find out if they can really get back into the thick of the battle, but at the very least AMD aficionados might want to wait a bit longer to see how everything pans out before making their next upgrade.
On the Intel side, most of the midrange updates aren't going to be as dramatic, but we should start seeing 45nm Penryn processors showing up in quantity in the near future. All other things being equal, we would certainly prefer to use a 45nm Intel processor, but whether or not you're willing to wait a bit longer for what amounts to a minor speed bump (generally less than 20%) depends a lot on what sort of system you're currently using. If you need a new computer right now (because of a new job or because your current system broke) then you probably can't wait a few weeks let alone months. If you don't actually need (or really want) to upgrade, then go ahead and wait until you do.
AMD Midrange Gaming
Let's start by pointing out the pink elephant hiding in the corner: there's no doubt that Intel has faster processors than anything AMD is currently shipping. Intel also has CPUs that overclock (percentage wise) a lot better than anything AMD currently offers. So why even bother considering AMD? There are several reasons. Price is the biggest attraction, which extends beyond the price of the CPU to the price of the platform as a whole. The other major consideration is that if you're talking about a gaming system, for the vast majority of systems the graphics card is going to be the most important aspect of gaming performance. The features you can get at a particular price point for an AMD setup are also very good. Now that that's out of the way....
AMD Midrange Gaming System | |||
Hardware | Component | Price | Rebates |
Processor | Athlon 64 X2 5000+ AM2 Black Edition (2.6GHz 2x512K unlocked) - Retail | $130 | |
Motherboard | ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe WiFi (nForce 590 SLI) | $167 | |
Memory | Patriot Extreme Performance 2x1GB PC2-8500 (PDC22G8500ELK) | $139 | $25 |
Video Card | XFX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB (PVT80GGHF4) | $287 | $20 |
Hard Drive | Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200RPM 16MB (WD3200AAKS) | $80 | |
Optical Drive | Samsung 20X DVD+R SATA (SH-S203B) | $36 | |
Case | Cooler Master Centurion 534 (RC-534-KKN2-GP) | $66 | $10 |
Power Supply | Corsair CMPSU-520HX | $108 | $10 |
Display | Acer AL2216Wbd 22" 5ms (1680x1050) | $235 | |
Speakers | Logitech X-530 5.1 70W Speakers | $66 | |
Keyboard | Saitek Eclipse USB Wired (PZ30AU) | $40 | |
Mouse | Logitech G5 Wired Adjustable Weight | $52 | $15 |
Operating System | Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit (OEM) | $105 | |
Bottom Line | $1511 | $1431 |
If you're undecided on what CPU or platform might be best, you might want to take a look at our Midrange CPU Roundup from a couple weeks back. As long as you're willing to take overclocking out of the picture, you can get performance that's relatively competitive with Intel's Core 2 Duo E4400/E4500 with a CPU price that's nearly identical to the E4400 - or about $13 cheaper if you get the standard 5000+. Looking specifically at the gaming results from that article, performance tends to fall between those same two processors, at least at 1024x768 where we aren't GPU limited. If you're like most people and you plan to play at higher resolutions (for example 1680x1050 if you purchase the recommended LCD), performance differences are going to be even smaller.
As mentioned, the graphics card is probably the most important component for this type of system, and we had quite a few choices. We decided to go with a GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB, as it offers the most attractive price/performance ratio. Other than minor differences in factory clock speeds, all of the 8800 GTS cards are pretty similar, so the deciding factor was price. XFX ended up getting the nod, but EVGA, Gigabyte, Leadtek, and others are not too far off.
The final price comes out to $1511 (not counting rebates). Depending on how you want to configure things, going with an AMD platform will save you somewhere between $15 and $100 compared to a similar Intel configuration. By no means is our AMD platform bad, but if we were to go out and purchase a midrange gaming system right now, it would be using a Core 2 Duo processor. Then again, we're enthusiasts, so overclocking is pretty much a given. If you can hold on a couple more months, we're definitely interested in some of the changes that will occur with AMD's upcoming product launches. The attraction of current AM2 systems is mostly price, and the gap there is really too small these days to make it a real deciding factor.
Intel Midrange Gaming
Intel has been getting most of the attention in the past year with their Core 2 line of products, and with good reason. Even better is that competition with AMD has continued to drive down prices, to the point where we actually see a lot of very good Intel processors that cost less than $200. If we were to put together a system that was configured as close as possible to what we used in the AMD gaming platform on the previous page, we would need to make a few changes. However, trying to come up with identical features makes it difficult to cater to the strengths of a platform, so instead we simply picked the parts that we felt were the best fit for a midrange gaming system.
Intel Midrange Gaming System | |||
Hardware | Component | Price | Rebates |
Processor | Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 (2.33GHz 1333FSB 4MB Shared) - Retail | $175 | |
Motherboard | DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL (P35 ICH9R) | $137 | |
Memory | Patriot Extreme Performance 2x1GB PC2-8500 (PDC22G8500ELK) | $139 | $25 |
Video Card | XFX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB (PVT80GGHF4) | $287 | $20 |
Hard Drive | Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200RPM 16MB (WD3200AAKS) | $80 | |
Optical Drive | Samsung 20X DVD+R SATA (SH-S203B) | $36 | |
Case | Cooler Master Centurion 534 (RC-534-KKN2-GP) | $66 | $10 |
Power Supply | Corsair CMPSU-520HX | $108 | $10 |
Display | Acer AL2216Wbd 22" 5ms (1680x1050) | $235 | |
Speakers | Logitech X-530 5.1 70W Speakers | $66 | |
Keyboard | Saitek Eclipse USB Wired (PZ30AU) | $40 | |
Mouse | Logitech G5 Wired Adjustable Weight | $52 | $15 |
Operating System | Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit (OEM) | $105 | |
Bottom Line | $1526 | $1446 |
For the motherboard, we tossed around quite a few ideas. In the end, dual GPU support didn't make the cut, which we don't view as a particularly major loss on a midrange system. There are motherboards that don't cost too much more that include dual physical x16 slots, but we figure most gamers should either purchase a single fast GPU or spend a lot more money and make the jump straight to dual high-end GPUs. Many people over the years have purchased a single GPU with the thought that they can upgrade to dual graphics cards in the future, only to find that by the time they really need the second GPU there are new single GPU solutions available that are more attractive overall.
AMD Midrange HTPC
To be honest, if there's one system in this roundup that is likely to get a lot of comments and criticisms, it's going to be the HTPC configuration. That's not to say that our particular configuration is unreasonable, but getting into the HTPC market we will invariably encounter a lot of differing opinions about what is necessary and what is not. We'll start with the assertion that anyone looking to build an HTPC already has a decent HDTV and sound system, so we get to bypass those expenses and focus on the rest of the components.
AMD Midrange HTPC System | |||
Hardware | Component | Price | No Extras |
Processor | Athlon 64 X2 BE-2350 AM2 (2.1GHz 2x512K) - Retail | $99 | |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H (690G) | $85 | |
Memory | Transcend AxeRAM 2x1GB PC2-6400 (TX800QLJ-2GK) | $75 | |
Video Card | Integrated X1250 with HDMI | $0 | |
Hard Drive | HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 750GB 7200RPM 32MB (HDS721075KLA330) | $200 | |
Optical Drive | Pioneer BDC-202BK Blu-ray/DVD+R Combo (SATA) - Optional | $290 | -$254 |
Case and PSU | Antec Veris Fusion (430W PSU) | $175 | |
TV Tuner | AVerMedia AVerTV Combo PCIe MCE (Retail) | $115 | |
TV Tuner | KWORLD ATSC 115 PlusTV HD (PCI) - Optional | $76 | -$76 |
Sound Card | ASUS Xonar D2 7.1 - Optional | $181 | -$181 |
Display | Pre-existing HDTV | $0 | |
Speakers | Pre-existing Home Theater Stereo | $0 | |
Keyboard and Mouse | Logitech 920-000526 Keyboard with 1500 Rechargeable Mouse | $61 | |
Operating System | Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit (OEM) | $105 | |
Bottom Line | $1462 | $951 |
Because we used an integrated graphics solution, obviously there's no need for a discrete graphics card. Of course, some people might prefer a discrete graphics solution that includes hardware accelerated H.264 decoding, in which case you could skip out on the IGP motherboards and pick up pretty much any other reasonable motherboard. If you're looking to build an HTPC based on an Intel platform, this is definitely the route we would take. GeForce 8600 and Radeon HD 2600 cards should all do a reasonable job at handling any H.264 content, although we were able to decode everything up through 1080i H.264 videos fine using just the CPU. 1080p on the other hand needs a bit more help. If you want to install an HD-DVD and/or Blu-ray drive, we would definitely put more thought into spending an extra hundred dollars or so on a discrete (fanless) GPU.
Any HTPC worth its salt needs to be able to record videos, so we added a TV tuner card. The AVerMedia AVerTV Combo is a dual TV tuner that supports Over-the-Air HDTV signals (ATSC), Clear QAM, as well as analog channels. It integrates with Windows MCE 2005 and Windows Vista, but you'll need to use the separate AVer MediaCenter application (currently a free trial that doesn't expire) in order to view QAM digital channels. Scanning through all the QAM channels to get things configured can be a tedious process, but for QAM support it's pretty much a necessary evil. Heat is also a concern at times, according to online comments.
If you want to be able to record/view additional channels, you can install a second card as well. The retail box includes a Media Center remote and IR blaster, but you only need one of those so if you pick up a second card you can save a bit of money and get the white box version. However, you need a motherboard with two PCIe x1 slots if you want to use two of these cards, so either you'll need to get a different motherboard or you'll need to pick up a PCI card for your second tuner. The "best" current option (and we use that term loosely) seems to be the KWORLD ATSC 115, which has similar features to the AVerMedia card and includes a second remote. Some users have had serious issues while others don't report any problems, but we generally consider this to be an optional extra. AMD also just announced their new TV Wonder lineup with Clear QAM support which should become available shortly. We're certainly interested in seeing how the actual hardware and software turns out, but until the products actually become available we'll have to stick with other alternatives.
Now, there's something else to consider in all of this, and that's the US government mandated February 19, 2009 deadline to end analog broadcasts. Both of the TV tuners that we've listed include analog support, which we still find to be necessary in order to view the largest number of channels. However, some people might prefer to just forget about analog altogether - especially those that live in larger metropolitan areas where the switch to digital TV is already well underway. One final option on the TV tuner side that is pretty unique is the HD Homerun from Silicondust USA. This is a Dual HDTV tuner/recorder that functions over a network and provides ATSC/QAM support. The price of $169 is more than many other options, but this is arguably a more flexible overall solution.
What's the point of having an HTPC if you don't have a lot of storage space? To that end, we selected a Hitachi 750GB hard drive - if you're recording HDTV signals, you will chew through space at a rate of around 8GB per hour, which still gives enough storage for over 90 hours of video. We also have what we can only consider an optional Blu-ray/DVDR combo drive - optional because at $290, most people might be inclined to wait a bit longer. If you don't want to spend that much (or simply feel Blu-ray and HD-DVD are overrated), feel free to stick with our standard SATA DVDR recommendation from the other configurations.
While we prefer the ease of installation that comes with Windows Vista, all of the TV tuners mentioned above should also work with MythTV. That will almost certainly require a lot more effort, and as with most things Linux you may have better results by using an NVIDIA graphics chip. If you've got more time than money, though, MythTV can be a very powerful alternative that still provides good quality. On the other hand, if digging through forums and recompiling kernels and drivers doesn't sound like your cup of tea, Vista remains the far easier solution.
The final price comes to just under $1500, but as we've already mentioned there are several optional features that many people might choose to bypass. If you cut out the Blu-ray drive (and substitute in a standard DVDR), the extra PCI tuner, and the ASUS soundcard you can get the price to $950. Go with MythTV and you can cut out another $105. Clearly, there's a lot of room for tweaking this particular configuration to fit your own needs.
Intel Midrange Workstation
We'll wrap things up with a nice quad-core "workstation" that might be used for more serious work. We're not talking about a workstation that can compete directly with a high-powered 3D rendering workstations (at least not without spending some additional money), but this is still a computer that packs a lot of punch and would be suitable for software development, video editing, graphics artwork, etc. Again, overclocking isn't going to be a serious consideration; certainly this configuration is capable of some overclocking, but stability is going to be a far bigger concern.
Intel Midrange Workstation | |||
Hardware | Component | Price | Rebates |
Processor | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.40GHz 1066FSB 2x4MB Shared) - Retail | $278 | |
Motherboard | ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP (P35 ICH9R) | $155 | |
Memory | G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-6400 (F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ) | $170 | |
Video Card | Powercolor Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB (26XT512M/D3HDMI) | $142 | |
Hard Drive | Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200RPM 16MB (WD3200AAKS) | $80 | |
Optical Drive | Samsung 20X DVD+R SATA (SH-S203B) | $36 | |
Case | Lian Li PC-7B plus II | $106 | |
Power Supply | Seasonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT | $149 | |
Display | Acer AL2216Wbd 22" 5ms (1680x1050) | $235 | |
Speakers | Logitech X-140 5W 2.0 Speakers | $27 | |
Keyboard and Mouse | Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 (B2L-00047) | $28 | |
Operating System | Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit (OEM) | $110 | |
Bottom Line | $1516 | $1516 |
For the graphics card, we wanted to make sure that we selected something that included a dual-link DVI output. No, we're not going to be able to fit a 30" LCD into our midrange components, but a true workstation environment might want to add one in the future. The Powercolor Radeon HD 2600 XT provides two dual-link outputs, plus an HDMI adapter. The 512MB of memory may not really help much, but Windows Vista is able to do a bit more with graphics card memory so it certainly won't hurt either. For alternatives, the 8600 GT/GTS all support at least a single dual-link DVI connection and cost about the same amount (though with half the amount of RAM). If you want a Linux workstation (or you're planning on dual-booting at least), NVIDIA cards remain the better option, despite AMD's latest efforts.
The total comes to almost $1516, and honestly we would really like to have a larger LCD. Trimming costs in a few areas in order to fit a 24" LCD into the picture might be possible, but with 24" LCDs now starting at $400 for basic models we would probably just spend the extra money instead. That's not to say that the quality of a cheap 24" display is the same as what you might get with some of the $600 24" LCDs, but the increased native resolution alone is worth the price of entry.
Conclusion
As usual, even after four midrange systems, we've hardly scratched the surface of what's possible. There are numerous tweaks that could be made in order to save a few dollars or increase performance in a specific area, but for those of you looking for a "State of the Midrange Industry Address" we have hopefully provided you with a good starting point. While there are plenty of new products that are just around the corner, we would also like to warn against paralysis by analysis. No matter when you look at building a new system, there will always be newer/faster parts coming out within the next couple of months. If you're at the point where you need a new system, we recommend taking the plunge and not looking back. After all, no matter what you buy, you'll probably be looking at putting together a new system again in just a couple more years.
10/29/07 Update: As many of you are probably aware, the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT is now available. Given the price and performance, not to mention other benefits such as power requirements and a single slot design, we can see absolutely no reason to even consider the 8800 GTS 320 cards any longer. The 640 cards do come in slightly faster in a few specific situations, but overall we'd take the 512MB 8800 GT. In fact, if you were previously thinking of an 8800 GTX/Ultra, 8800 GT SLI is almost certainly the better option now (barring price cuts). We won't be updating the rest of the article text, but this is an important enough announcement that we wanted to make sure our Midrange Guide doesn't mislead anyone.