Highly doubt they went bellow 28nm given the storage and networking markets targeted. And it seems they quit mobile SoCs, sure they'll still have wifi and maybe discrete modems. You don't mention FLC at all, that's a big deal too. Qualcomm is supposed to talk this week about monolithic 3D at IEEE S3S 2015. Similar goals,different approach.
From personal Marvell Avastar WiFi/Bluetooth in the surface Pro 1, 2, and 3 I would not trust any Marvell component. They have tried to fix features/performance/firmware at least 10 times running now... WiFi is still unreliable and low performing.
Good thing you mentioned about its tradeoff, as I read it, it feels going away from the concept and advantages of the SoC. A vendor might as well go with the previous generation process that is significantly cheaper than a comparable MoChi.
This whole thing seems a bit... silly. I mean ok put the A72's on 16nm, but seriously how much are they saving by putting the rest of the crap on 28nm? Plus the added cost of the interconnect substrate... Just seems to me like in the end you get very little cost benefits for quite a lot of work...
I guess it is cheaper though, I mean I doubt they would be doing it if it wasnt...
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jjj - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Highly doubt they went bellow 28nm given the storage and networking markets targeted. And it seems they quit mobile SoCs, sure they'll still have wifi and maybe discrete modems.You don't mention FLC at all, that's a big deal too.
Qualcomm is supposed to talk this week about monolithic 3D at IEEE S3S 2015. Similar goals,different approach.
Gunbuster - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
From personal Marvell Avastar WiFi/Bluetooth in the surface Pro 1, 2, and 3 I would not trust any Marvell component. They have tried to fix features/performance/firmware at least 10 times running now... WiFi is still unreliable and low performing.Flunk - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Mochi is like Lego?I always thought it was a type of chewy glutinous rice cake.
petteyg359 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Haven't you ever chewed on LEGO bricks? That's exactly what they're like.SleepyFE - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
That's not mochi that would be chok.zodiacfml - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
Good thing you mentioned about its tradeoff, as I read it, it feels going away from the concept and advantages of the SoC. A vendor might as well go with the previous generation process that is significantly cheaper than a comparable MoChi.extide - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
This whole thing seems a bit... silly. I mean ok put the A72's on 16nm, but seriously how much are they saving by putting the rest of the crap on 28nm? Plus the added cost of the interconnect substrate... Just seems to me like in the end you get very little cost benefits for quite a lot of work...I guess it is cheaper though, I mean I doubt they would be doing it if it wasnt...