What kind of screen are they using for these presentations? It might be just the camera, but it looks like paper or something, but I guess it's not because it keeps changing.
pls don't use the marketing ploy of "thin" in place of "thick" --- it's still "thick" even if we are talking about a nm scale not milimeters -- it just sounds idiotic
I'm a fan of phones in the 4.3-4.5" size. Only one problem, total cost of ownership of these things because of the severely and unjustly overpriced networks is around 4 thousand dollars. I could build 3-4 very powerful desktop PC's for that. I could take a 7 day cruise around the Atlantic/Gulf for that much. I could experience zero G like an astronaut for that much. Hell, I could buy an 04' Impala with leather/heated seats for that much.
Agreed. I can see LTE networks (peak 100Mbps, 10ms ping) eventually replacing cable/DSL at home, but not with $10/GB prices. My average home use is about 50GB/month, and there's no way I'm paying $500/month for internet access.
Wireless networks are not designed to replace a home internet connection when you're pushing 50gb+. It still takes a LOT more power to move data wirelessly than it does through a wired connection. What we need is a lot more competition in the wired internet market, and the ability to purchase channels À la carte instead of bundles (for those that can't ditch TV services entirely).
All valid points, OTOH the cost of something like this above the cost of the most basic featurephone is less than $1000 on a 2-year contract. No idea what the costs of the carriers actually are, but they charge plenty to have any phone.
I have no idea where you pull the $4000 figure from, but I'm guessing I shouldn't say it.
Think about it this way $100/month x 24 = $2,400; however, the starting network fees are typically $70 (let's even assume for the moment that isn't enough to satisfy your talk time needs) if we consider the fact that the data plans usually add $25-$40 onto your cellphone bill we are talking about the cost of owning a smartphone being (you have to subtract the cellphone portion of you bill...talk+text, because it's equal in both cases and irrelevant for a cost-savings decision):
$199 + 25*24= $800 or $199 + 40*= $1,400
Also, your powerful computers don't give you access to free internet (ok, not free, but it's part of this cost that you are balking at) and that internet is also MOBILE. Sprint operates a pretty fast and unlimited 4G data service so you could even deduct $ from your home broadband bill for those who are willing to "cut the cord".
I have the Fascinate. Wonderful phone, but the screen sucks so much juice it's ridiculous. Plus, who trusts Samsung after the GPS fiasco of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line? That, and how long have Galaxy S owners been promised Froyo? Come on.
I'm not sure I will ever buy another Samsung phone.
I'm sure that Samsung will continue to do well in the phone/android space for awhile because the masses do not know the backstory. But that said, there are consumers like us that feel the whole idea of 'once bitten, twice shy" attitude.
I'm really in the market for one of these ATT phones, and it is that recent spat about Froyo/Gingerbread that has me wondering if they are going to do the same thing again. I'm not someone that goes out every 12 months and upgrades my phone/plan. I can use the same phone for 2-3 years (or beyond) and keep it in great shape.
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wizardlvl99 - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
What kind of screen are they using for these presentations?It might be just the camera, but it looks like paper or something, but I guess it's not because it keeps changing.
Symelian - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
pls don't use the marketing ploy of "thin" in place of "thick" --- it's still "thick" even if we are talking about a nm scale not milimeters -- it just sounds idioticHrel - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
yeah, and no ones 55 years young either.Souka - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
HEh... so those iPhone4 commericals that say it's the thinnest smartphone in the world are wrong... :)
Shaorinor - Thursday, January 6, 2011 - link
Is this phone even out yet? How can the commercials be wrong in the present when compared to a phone in the future?Hrel - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
I'm a fan of phones in the 4.3-4.5" size. Only one problem, total cost of ownership of these things because of the severely and unjustly overpriced networks is around 4 thousand dollars. I could build 3-4 very powerful desktop PC's for that. I could take a 7 day cruise around the Atlantic/Gulf for that much. I could experience zero G like an astronaut for that much. Hell, I could buy an 04' Impala with leather/heated seats for that much.Spivonious - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
Agreed. I can see LTE networks (peak 100Mbps, 10ms ping) eventually replacing cable/DSL at home, but not with $10/GB prices. My average home use is about 50GB/month, and there's no way I'm paying $500/month for internet access.ant1pathy - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
Wireless networks are not designed to replace a home internet connection when you're pushing 50gb+. It still takes a LOT more power to move data wirelessly than it does through a wired connection. What we need is a lot more competition in the wired internet market, and the ability to purchase channels À la carte instead of bundles (for those that can't ditch TV services entirely).strikeback03 - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
All valid points, OTOH the cost of something like this above the cost of the most basic featurephone is less than $1000 on a 2-year contract. No idea what the costs of the carriers actually are, but they charge plenty to have any phone.alovell83 - Thursday, January 6, 2011 - link
I have no idea where you pull the $4000 figure from, but I'm guessing I shouldn't say it.Think about it this way $100/month x 24 = $2,400; however, the starting network fees are typically $70 (let's even assume for the moment that isn't enough to satisfy your talk time needs) if we consider the fact that the data plans usually add $25-$40 onto your cellphone bill we are talking about the cost of owning a smartphone being (you have to subtract the cellphone portion of you bill...talk+text, because it's equal in both cases and irrelevant for a cost-savings decision):
$199 + 25*24= $800
or
$199 + 40*= $1,400
Also, your powerful computers don't give you access to free internet (ok, not free, but it's part of this cost that you are balking at) and that internet is also MOBILE. Sprint operates a pretty fast and unlimited 4G data service so you could even deduct $ from your home broadband bill for those who are willing to "cut the cord".
StanTech - Wednesday, January 5, 2011 - link
You know of the 5" display on the AT&T-locked http://www.anandtech.com/show/3853/the-dell-streak...">Dell Streak. I guess it's not an "AT&T smartphone" because it's only available on Dell's website.
PubicTheHare - Thursday, January 6, 2011 - link
I have the Fascinate. Wonderful phone, but the screen sucks so much juice it's ridiculous. Plus, who trusts Samsung after the GPS fiasco of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line? That, and how long have Galaxy S owners been promised Froyo? Come on.I'm not sure I will ever buy another Samsung phone.
RocketChild - Monday, January 24, 2011 - link
I'm sure that Samsung will continue to do well in the phone/android space for awhile because the masses do not know the backstory. But that said, there are consumers like us that feel the whole idea of 'once bitten, twice shy" attitude.I'm really in the market for one of these ATT phones, and it is that recent spat about Froyo/Gingerbread that has me wondering if they are going to do the same thing again. I'm not someone that goes out every 12 months and upgrades my phone/plan. I can use the same phone for 2-3 years (or beyond) and keep it in great shape.
Drace - Thursday, January 6, 2011 - link
Hmm any word on any new Windows Phone 7 devices?