"with ATI's new mobile driver program we're inclined to go with ATI until NVIDIA starts shipping mobile DX11 solutions."
Woah easy there. ATI has yet to deliver anything. Plenty of promises are made every day by lots of companies. Until they start regularly releasing mobile driver updates, then lets take what they (or anyone else) says with a grain of salt until proven true.
DX11 is really going to be very popular. When the next gen of consoles comes, they will have DX11 and it will proceed to be in everything. DX11 provides for physics and Directcompute and Tesselation. Now it does automatically downscale to DX10 and 10.1 so it's not a disaster if you don't get it, but laptops can't change out GPU's. What you get now you LIVE with for as long as you have the machine, which is usually long enough to see one DX changeover. If you go DX10 now you may see DX12 before your machine gets replaced, and you don't want to be 2 generations behind then. I wouldn't at least.
USB 3 is really here, despite what Intel doesn't know. Laptops have pretty much one primary way to talk to the outside world, USB. Yes there are Expresscards and there is ESATA, but really 99% of everything you get talks USB. And USB 3 is a once every 10 YEAR changeover. Why wouldn't you wait a couple of months for a once a decade change to the #1 way for your laptop to communicate with other devices. One USB 3 hub take a single USB port and cover external hardrives, external graphics/monitors, Vidcams, Memory sticks and more. You could run sound, video and external hardrive and not saturate the port. And it uses less CPU cycles than USB 2. Win win, really.
LED screens are going to inhabit every laptop made in 2011 (at least as an option if not the only option). They last longer. They have a purer light frequency, making filters more efficient and colors truer than days of old. And they can get brighter on the same amount of power. Go look at any super electronics store at two of the same model of Television, one with and one without LED backlight. Take your pick, Sony, Samsung or LG. And you'll see immediately why. LED's will go into every LCD that has a backlight by the time another year or two goes by. LED production just needs to catch up. So picking a LED screen now is just good sense.
Nvidia needs DX11 mobile chips. Much like they didn't see Eyefinity coming, they don't know just what a wave is coming with the advent of widespread 40nm DX11 mobile GPU's. This isn't just about the high end. 40nm uses less power at every performance level. DX11 is already on it's way in the door. Over 50% of sales are in laptops. To miss that market by failing to deliver DX11 and multiscreen ability in a mobile chip is literally something that can cripple earnings for a year or more. It may well be something Nvidia can't deliver. Once AMD gains the foothold in the mobile world, that it has in the desktop world, Nvidia earnings will go way down. That takes away funds to fuel chip development, which makes delays even more hurtful. Let's hope for the sake of competition that they can step up, and not too long from now. The 285M BETTER be just a holdover. If that is their "one top chip" for 2010, they are in for sad news in the earnings dept.
I think you might be getting ahead of yourself in your projections there. Next generation consoles won't be release anytime soon as they once were. There are many reasons for this, of course, but one would be that the hardware still serves it purpose, at the very least due to the high learning curve. PS3/xbox potential, imo, has not been fully utilize.
USB 3.0 is not here yet. We're seeing it trickle down but it isn't mainstream as of yet. I don't want to have to put a card in my PC to get the support, for example. Just take a gander at the various laptops offered and most don't have USB 3.0 ports. I'm thinking it'll hit mainstream at the end of this year, at the earliest.
LED screens is the same as USB 3.0 They are not mainstream, not even for TV. They are just starting to show and few consumers know of the technology. Again, take a gander at laptops and you'll see there isn't much around with LED.
LED TFT's _are_ mainstream, it's low end tech, USB 3 will trickle down into everything the next chipset refresh. _RGB_ LED won't be mainstream neither will anything with good color.
I think nVidia will do just fine, their mobile GPUs are powerful. DX11 doesn't really give anything yet.
As said next gen consoles are a few years away. Todays GPUs will be slow compared to what they get. But middleware today is very flexible and many games don't push the graphics. So I wouldn't worry, but I wouldn't buy anything like this. High-end gaming and notebooks don't mix though.
Are you serious? You really think that this X8100 monolith looks better than the ASUS G73J? Because I'm on the opposite side of the fence. The X8100 has that stupid ass mirror finish everywhere. The G73J looks damn slick if you ask me! I wonder how it will actually perform? Is the 5870 mobile chip anywhere near as fast as the desktop part? Because NVIDIA's mobile stuff is less than half the performance of the desktop chips.
The gtx 285 is effectively a downclocked/dieshrunk 8800gts 512 but with 1gb of memory instead of 512
gtx285m 1024.....128 shaders 576 core:1500 shader:2040 memory
8800gts 512......128 shaders 650 core:1625 shader:1940 memory
9800gtx 512......128 shaders 675 core:1688 shader:2200 memory
9800gtx+/gts250..128 shaders 738 core:1836 shader:2200 memory
The 5870 mobile is effectively a downclocked version of the 5770. Same shaders as the 5770, core clock of the 5750, and memory clock that is lower than both 5750 and 5770.
mobility hd radeon 5870.....800 shaders 700 core:1000 memory
hd radeon 5750..............720 shaders 700 core:1150 memory
hd radeon 5770..............800 shaders 850 core:1200 memory
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tviceman - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - link
"with ATI's new mobile driver program we're inclined to go with ATI until NVIDIA starts shipping mobile DX11 solutions."Woah easy there. ATI has yet to deliver anything. Plenty of promises are made every day by lots of companies. Until they start regularly releasing mobile driver updates, then lets take what they (or anyone else) says with a grain of salt until proven true.
Rob94hawk - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - link
If I play Zork on this beauty could I get at least an hour on the battery life? :DFXi - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 - link
DX11 is really going to be very popular. When the next gen of consoles comes, they will have DX11 and it will proceed to be in everything. DX11 provides for physics and Directcompute and Tesselation. Now it does automatically downscale to DX10 and 10.1 so it's not a disaster if you don't get it, but laptops can't change out GPU's. What you get now you LIVE with for as long as you have the machine, which is usually long enough to see one DX changeover. If you go DX10 now you may see DX12 before your machine gets replaced, and you don't want to be 2 generations behind then. I wouldn't at least.USB 3 is really here, despite what Intel doesn't know. Laptops have pretty much one primary way to talk to the outside world, USB. Yes there are Expresscards and there is ESATA, but really 99% of everything you get talks USB. And USB 3 is a once every 10 YEAR changeover. Why wouldn't you wait a couple of months for a once a decade change to the #1 way for your laptop to communicate with other devices. One USB 3 hub take a single USB port and cover external hardrives, external graphics/monitors, Vidcams, Memory sticks and more. You could run sound, video and external hardrive and not saturate the port. And it uses less CPU cycles than USB 2. Win win, really.
LED screens are going to inhabit every laptop made in 2011 (at least as an option if not the only option). They last longer. They have a purer light frequency, making filters more efficient and colors truer than days of old. And they can get brighter on the same amount of power. Go look at any super electronics store at two of the same model of Television, one with and one without LED backlight. Take your pick, Sony, Samsung or LG. And you'll see immediately why. LED's will go into every LCD that has a backlight by the time another year or two goes by. LED production just needs to catch up. So picking a LED screen now is just good sense.
Nvidia needs DX11 mobile chips. Much like they didn't see Eyefinity coming, they don't know just what a wave is coming with the advent of widespread 40nm DX11 mobile GPU's. This isn't just about the high end. 40nm uses less power at every performance level. DX11 is already on it's way in the door. Over 50% of sales are in laptops. To miss that market by failing to deliver DX11 and multiscreen ability in a mobile chip is literally something that can cripple earnings for a year or more. It may well be something Nvidia can't deliver. Once AMD gains the foothold in the mobile world, that it has in the desktop world, Nvidia earnings will go way down. That takes away funds to fuel chip development, which makes delays even more hurtful. Let's hope for the sake of competition that they can step up, and not too long from now. The 285M BETTER be just a holdover. If that is their "one top chip" for 2010, they are in for sad news in the earnings dept.
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The0ne - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - link
I think you might be getting ahead of yourself in your projections there. Next generation consoles won't be release anytime soon as they once were. There are many reasons for this, of course, but one would be that the hardware still serves it purpose, at the very least due to the high learning curve. PS3/xbox potential, imo, has not been fully utilize.USB 3.0 is not here yet. We're seeing it trickle down but it isn't mainstream as of yet. I don't want to have to put a card in my PC to get the support, for example. Just take a gander at the various laptops offered and most don't have USB 3.0 ports. I'm thinking it'll hit mainstream at the end of this year, at the earliest.
LED screens is the same as USB 3.0 They are not mainstream, not even for TV. They are just starting to show and few consumers know of the technology. Again, take a gander at laptops and you'll see there isn't much around with LED.
Penti - Thursday, March 11, 2010 - link
LED TFT's _are_ mainstream, it's low end tech, USB 3 will trickle down into everything the next chipset refresh. _RGB_ LED won't be mainstream neither will anything with good color.I think nVidia will do just fine, their mobile GPUs are powerful. DX11 doesn't really give anything yet.
As said next gen consoles are a few years away. Todays GPUs will be slow compared to what they get. But middleware today is very flexible and many games don't push the graphics. So I wouldn't worry, but I wouldn't buy anything like this. High-end gaming and notebooks don't mix though.
Souka - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 - link
I wonder if I can convince my boss to replace my Sony Vaio C2D VGN-series laptop with one of these little puppies...I will for sure stay away from that ASUS F-ugly system... yuck, that is just ugly...
The0ne - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 - link
:) I had the exact same thoughts just seeing the headline. Problem is I have 2 extra laptops that has no home now so I think it's unlikely lol.whatthehey - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 - link
Are you serious? You really think that this X8100 monolith looks better than the ASUS G73J? Because I'm on the opposite side of the fence. The X8100 has that stupid ass mirror finish everywhere. The G73J looks damn slick if you ask me! I wonder how it will actually perform? Is the 5870 mobile chip anywhere near as fast as the desktop part? Because NVIDIA's mobile stuff is less than half the performance of the desktop chips.Roland00 - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 - link
The gtx 285 is effectively a downclocked/dieshrunk 8800gts 512 but with 1gb of memory instead of 512gtx285m 1024.....128 shaders 576 core:1500 shader:2040 memory
8800gts 512......128 shaders 650 core:1625 shader:1940 memory
9800gtx 512......128 shaders 675 core:1688 shader:2200 memory
9800gtx+/gts250..128 shaders 738 core:1836 shader:2200 memory
The 5870 mobile is effectively a downclocked version of the 5770. Same shaders as the 5770, core clock of the 5750, and memory clock that is lower than both 5750 and 5770.
mobility hd radeon 5870.....800 shaders 700 core:1000 memory
hd radeon 5750..............720 shaders 700 core:1150 memory
hd radeon 5770..............800 shaders 850 core:1200 memory
sdjfksjhfsj - Monday, March 29, 2010 - link
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Do you have enough good equipment? Of the world's most famous brands. Only two brands, jordans Nike.
If you want to have these two brands of equipment, and want to use the lowest price to buy,
Then I suggest you go to: http://www.dearsales.com">http://www.dearsales.com
More and more fashionable style. More favorable, the more you want.
Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar! Welcome to { http://www.dearsales.com">http://www.dearsales.com } sure you will find what you need. Moreover, the company has a good reputation, product quality standards, at reasonable prices. Over the years, has been well received by overseas friends for their support. Therefore, please rest assured purchase.
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