Nice SoC. Too bad that only a few Chinese OEMs will use it with half baked software which won't even utilise all its features like the capabilities unlocked by the new ISP and that is IF you can even find a device with this because 7gen1 was basically vaporware
Well, in Europe the Xiaomi 13 Lite was released this month, which, if I am not mistaken, is the sole smartphone featuring the 7 Gen 1 SoC that is officially sold over here. So there is hope we might see a 7+ Gen 2 device in about a year from now. ;-)
No word on charging power, so it's probably low as its predecessor. It's sad, because I would buy this if it was capable of 100W charge. I keep an eye on it, and with my current 30W, I often leave with less than 50% battery, trying to economize it. I feel like at least for me, that feature is worth its weight in gold.
That's limited by another controller, not directly by the processor, so it's up to the respective phone designer to implement how they choose, you have to check that by the respective phone spec/software, you can't go by soc.
I believe there is hard limit and soft limit each time. SOC sets, let's say 200W limit that another chip can either utilize or not. Second chip decides if it goes straight for that limit or any lower number. like 8 gen2's have 200W exact support. So you cannot go above, with 210W, but you see 120,67 and anything in between 200 and 5W. from what I see, this one only supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 5 45W max, and that difference hurts.
You can also believe unicorns. Doesn't make it real. There's no limit whatsoever. You can certainly go above 200W if you have a big battery and don't use USB PD/QuickCharge.
Not really surprising. They've done the same thing in the past for their low/mid tier SOCs too. Transitioning from an all LITTLE core layout to a bigLITTLE layout using previous gen big cores and/or a 2/4 or 2/6 layout instead of a 4/4 or 1/3/4 layout like the their higher tiers. It gets you much higher single threaded performance and really helps with how fast the device feels without completely eliminating the benefits of the higher end chips.
They had 8+gen1, which essentially has all the same part as 7+gen2. But they deliberately limit the IMC to 32bit just for segmentation. Good job Qualcomm
I wish you could talk about Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or even 8 Gen 3 vs Dimensity 9300 SoCs because they are going to be finalised soon. I think Qualcomm should do 2 x X4 cores @ 3.35 Ghz + 3 x a720 core @ 3.05 Ghz + 3 x a520 core @ 2.25 Ghz plus Adreno 750 (@ 985 Mhz). Likewise, Mediatek should do 2 x X4 core @ 3.25/3.35 Ghz + 3 x a720 core @ 3.2 Ghz + 3 x a520 Ghz @ 2.2 Ghz plus ARM G720 Immortalis MC15 (@ 965 Mhz). Or both of them should use 10-core SoC with Qualcomm doing 2 x cortex X4 @ 3.35 Ghz + 4 x cortex a720 @ 3.2 Ghz + 4 x cortex a520 @ 2.25 Ghz + Adreno 750 and Mediatek should do just the same, ie, 2 x cortex X4 @3.35 Ghz + 4 x cortex a720 @ 3.15 Ghz + 4 x cortex a520 @ 2.35 Ghz + ARM Immortalis G720 MC16 (probably @ 975 Mhz). Then, both of the SoC could score upto 1,800,000+(1.8 million+) in Antutu, upto 2500-2700 in single core & 8500+ in multi-core performance in Geekbench and 15,000 - 17,000 in 3D Mark benchmark, which will be insanely fast. And if only Qualcomm & Mediatek could use 3nm node(by TSMC) in manufacturing Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 & Dimensity 9300 SoCs, which will not only help in performance but power-efficiency as well
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isthisavailable - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
Nice SoC. Too bad that only a few Chinese OEMs will use it with half baked software which won't even utilise all its features like the capabilities unlocked by the new ISP and that is IF you can even find a device with this because 7gen1 was basically vaporwareSolo450 - Saturday, March 18, 2023 - link
Well, in Europe the Xiaomi 13 Lite was released this month, which, if I am not mistaken, is the sole smartphone featuring the 7 Gen 1 SoC that is officially sold over here.So there is hope we might see a 7+ Gen 2 device in about a year from now. ;-)
deil - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
No word on charging power, so it's probably low as its predecessor. It's sad, because I would buy this if it was capable of 100W charge. I keep an eye on it, and with my current 30W, I often leave with less than 50% battery, trying to economize it. I feel like at least for me, that feature is worth its weight in gold.Zoolook - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
That's limited by another controller, not directly by the processor, so it's up to the respective phone designer to implement how they choose, you have to check that by the respective phone spec/software, you can't go by soc.deil - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
I believe there is hard limit and soft limit each time.SOC sets, let's say 200W limit that another chip can either utilize or not.
Second chip decides if it goes straight for that limit or any lower number.
like 8 gen2's have 200W exact support. So you cannot go above, with 210W, but you see 120,67 and anything in between 200 and 5W.
from what I see, this one only supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 5 45W max, and that difference hurts.
dotjaz - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
You can also believe unicorns. Doesn't make it real. There's no limit whatsoever. You can certainly go above 200W if you have a big battery and don't use USB PD/QuickCharge.anandcx - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
The SOC does not dictate charging speeds, you will see when Redmi and Realme launch their products later this month.dotjaz - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
The SOC doesn't limit charging in any form.vegemeister - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
H.265 decode is in the table, but there's no mention of AV1. Does it not have it?meacupla - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
It seems like it does have AV1 decodehttps://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomm-snapdragon...
Ryan Smith - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
I suspect that to be an error on XDA's part. AV1 does not show up in any of Qualcomm's press materials or spec sheets.The GPU appears to be derived from (if not directly a copy of) the one on the 8+G1, and that part did not have AV1 decoding.
James5mith - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
F#$*()& this marketing speak.This is the midrange SoC from Qualcomm. The Premium is the 8 Gen 2.
nandnandnand - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
Yeah, weird choice for the headline.kpb321 - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
Not really surprising. They've done the same thing in the past for their low/mid tier SOCs too. Transitioning from an all LITTLE core layout to a bigLITTLE layout using previous gen big cores and/or a 2/4 or 2/6 layout instead of a 4/4 or 1/3/4 layout like the their higher tiers. It gets you much higher single threaded performance and really helps with how fast the device feels without completely eliminating the benefits of the higher end chips.wr3zzz - Friday, March 17, 2023 - link
The 7 series is premium because 8 series is now luxury items. You peasants.erinadreno - Sunday, March 19, 2023 - link
They had 8+gen1, which essentially has all the same part as 7+gen2. But they deliberately limit the IMC to 32bit just for segmentation. Good job QualcommPeeCee - Tuesday, May 9, 2023 - link
I wish you could talk about Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or even 8 Gen 3 vs Dimensity 9300 SoCs because they are going to be finalised soon. I think Qualcomm should do 2 x X4 cores @ 3.35 Ghz + 3 x a720 core @ 3.05 Ghz + 3 x a520 core @ 2.25 Ghz plus Adreno 750 (@ 985 Mhz). Likewise, Mediatek should do 2 x X4 core @ 3.25/3.35 Ghz + 3 x a720 core @ 3.2 Ghz + 3 x a520 Ghz @ 2.2 Ghz plus ARM G720 Immortalis MC15 (@ 965 Mhz). Or both of them should use 10-core SoC with Qualcomm doing 2 x cortex X4 @ 3.35 Ghz + 4 x cortex a720 @ 3.2 Ghz + 4 x cortex a520 @ 2.25 Ghz + Adreno 750 and Mediatek should do just the same, ie, 2 x cortex X4 @3.35 Ghz + 4 x cortex a720 @ 3.15 Ghz + 4 x cortex a520 @ 2.35 Ghz + ARM Immortalis G720 MC16 (probably @ 975 Mhz). Then, both of the SoC could score upto 1,800,000+(1.8 million+) in Antutu, upto 2500-2700 in single core & 8500+ in multi-core performance in Geekbench and 15,000 - 17,000 in 3D Mark benchmark, which will be insanely fast. And if only Qualcomm & Mediatek could use 3nm node(by TSMC) in manufacturing Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 & Dimensity 9300 SoCs, which will not only help in performance but power-efficiency as well