4K monitor definitely need Freesync if it is going to be used in Gaming. 4K can did the frarates so badly that Freesync is needed to reduce tearing and shuttering.
Yeh man. I think this sounds very similar to the spec of my panel which is 4K with HDR 10 and freesync with 400 nits brightness. The HDR is crap and not worth bothering with as it limits so many other things due to poor implementation. The freesync is fine but turning it in limits other options. I got HDR as a nice to have and I really wanted 4k with freesync. It's a good option but now the way games development has gone (launchers, political, ripping off customers, releasing unfinished games and patching, etc as well as horrific price gouging for hardware) means I wish I'd have scrapped the freesync and just gone for 4k with a decent HDR implementation. I won't be replacing my GPU with anything decent this time around (my GPU tends to be on a cycle of 2 or 3 to each monitor). My advice to anyone who wants HDR is to not cheap out on it. It's just pointless if you do. Pay and do it properly or get a cheaper, stop gap if you need a new monitor and wait for prices to settle down.
"fully supports 2- or 4-way Picture-by-Picture" would argue this is exceptionally useful even if you only have one device. I use 4-way PbP connected to one PC using an older Dell 4k display and don't think I could tolerate going back; saves a lot of hassle and need for third-party programs while multi-tasking; no problem with applications going "full screen," since they'll seamlessly go 1080p full-screen in one quadrant. I don't actually use the 4k panel for 4k; gaming in 4k with a screen this large is ~impossible just because your HUD in most games is too far in the periphery, requiring you glance around frequently, very high eye strain. On + side, it's easy to have things like spreadsheets and news feeds going, or idle games, or keeping tabs on render projects, or whatever while simultaneously "full-screen gaming" (in one quadrant).
It's not impossible, you are just sitting to close. And as far as gaming goes, you don't have to set the game or screen to 4k. For putting any screen into any quadrant, you can use Window key + arrow keys built into Windows. You don't need 2 or 4 way picture by picture.
You're best off buying the LG SM8600 49" TV, it is almost the same size, but has real HDR support, and 120hz support at 1440p (and maybe even g-sync support starting today). And it is cheaper. I gave up waiting for a 120hz compatible 43 inch TV.
I bet it's the same IPS panel that is in their UM7300PUA TV that I use for a PC display... It was only $300. Plus you get speakers, apps, bluetooth, wifi, & ethernet.
it's only 6 inches different, and we have this thing called "windows" in Windows that can scale the window to any size you want
kind of missed the whole thing where the specs of the TV are superior to the monitor in almost every way? resolution, refresh rate, HDR support, cost, everything
43" is at the (very) big end of whatever people would consider a monitor (usually to be placed on a work desk). Adding "just" 6" does not help. The fact that "we have windows" completely misses the point that this is not the actual problem. Most people barely fit a 50" TV in a living room, let alone on a work desk.
When someone wants an SUV you don't offer them a tractor head just because it can pull more or because *you* like them.
ok, your analogy breaks down though, you don't realize how large this monitor is, it is 38 inches wide, and the TV is 43 inches wide. That's only 5 inches different. They are BOTH very large. I only suggested it because you get quantum dot colour, speakers that are 10x better, 120hz, and more, and a lower price.
Funny. You're implying that because it's only 5" more it should fit right? I can use this reasoning to add 5" again, and again, and again. If a 43" wide TV fits then a 48" wide TV should also fit, right? Just 5". So 53" wide? Of course a 58" wide TV will fit.
Sarcasm aside, *most* work desks in this world are not designed to fit a 49" TV and even the bigger ones can barely fit a 43" screen. You simply can't sit at the proper viewing distance in 99.9999% of cases. You can't just sit 1m away from a 1.25m screen which means that you need a desk that's at least 1m wide, screen bolted to the wall, and you sitting pretty far away even from that desk.
It may be better but you'll never enjoy using it unless you have a very, very specific set of conditions.
In 99% of the case, the TV display text is blurry. I'm not talking about 72 point fonts used to display TV titles when sitting on your couch, I'm talking about 10 point Arial font in a Microsoft Word document, or spreadsheet. On a monitor (external or laptop), these are crystal sharp, with clean black to white translations. On TVs, the text is not crisp. I would not want to use a TV for 8 to 10 hour of work, every day.
Tempting, this is the right size for a native 4k desktop, but I still haven't come to terms with having a single monitor this large on my desktop instead of two 1440p 27" monitors... especially when one of those is a 144MHz FreeSync IPS monitor.
Should have not included speakers. My sister's 4k LG TV and I got ruined LCDs, in just one and two years. The technician and I suspected vibrations through built in speakers. Her TV is under warranty but still waiting for the panel to be sourced from Korea. Disappointing considering we have a Full HD LG TV for 10 years without issues except it can consume 200 watts at full brightness.
Check out microcenter early black Friday sale monitors like 4k 27 inch XB273K hdr 400 gsync monitor is selling $649 before 5% insider discount. HO omen BFD 65 inch hdr 1000 gsync ultimate dropped to $2700 before 5% discount. Asus PG27UQ down to $1099 before discount lol this was selling for $2k facepalm Asus 43 inch hdr 600 XG438Q down to $999 What I'm interested is in the new hdr 1000 by Acer CG437K gsync compatible monitor that just launched for $1499.
Got so excited reading the headline, and then so disappointed when reading the spec sheet. Where is the VRR support? Grr. Why can't we get proper VRR as well? 45-60Hz is perfectly fine (roughly what my 1080Ti can support).
Also, how about a 120Hz panel? How about HDR1000 support?
Great size, but DOA without Dolby Vision & HLG HDR + HDMI 2.1 this late in the year.
What’s up with monitor manufacturing being strangely cheap with not adopting major HDR standards vastly superior & vastly used by TV & mainstream devices & I/O that’ll actually last the next 5 years?
RGB stripe or other? In the past all monitors like this used something different which led to major issues, particaully under Mac. This as a proper RGB is a killer monitor for IT people.
anybody see this for sale anywhere? it actually works perfect for me, need something that splits my photoshop work with some plex server with some random office work and still have room for another input (maybe a xbox or something). I don't even see it start selling in japan yet
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haukionkannel - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
4K monitor definitely need Freesync if it is going to be used in Gaming. 4K can did the frarates so badly that Freesync is needed to reduce tearing and shuttering.philehidiot - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
Yeh man. I think this sounds very similar to the spec of my panel which is 4K with HDR 10 and freesync with 400 nits brightness. The HDR is crap and not worth bothering with as it limits so many other things due to poor implementation. The freesync is fine but turning it in limits other options. I got HDR as a nice to have and I really wanted 4k with freesync. It's a good option but now the way games development has gone (launchers, political, ripping off customers, releasing unfinished games and patching, etc as well as horrific price gouging for hardware) means I wish I'd have scrapped the freesync and just gone for 4k with a decent HDR implementation. I won't be replacing my GPU with anything decent this time around (my GPU tends to be on a cycle of 2 or 3 to each monitor). My advice to anyone who wants HDR is to not cheap out on it. It's just pointless if you do. Pay and do it properly or get a cheaper, stop gap if you need a new monitor and wait for prices to settle down.close - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
The "harmon/kardon speakers" should make it all worth it.kludj - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
"fully supports 2- or 4-way Picture-by-Picture" would argue this is exceptionally useful even if you only have one device. I use 4-way PbP connected to one PC using an older Dell 4k display and don't think I could tolerate going back; saves a lot of hassle and need for third-party programs while multi-tasking; no problem with applications going "full screen," since they'll seamlessly go 1080p full-screen in one quadrant. I don't actually use the 4k panel for 4k; gaming in 4k with a screen this large is ~impossible just because your HUD in most games is too far in the periphery, requiring you glance around frequently, very high eye strain. On + side, it's easy to have things like spreadsheets and news feeds going, or idle games, or keeping tabs on render projects, or whatever while simultaneously "full-screen gaming" (in one quadrant).Dug - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
It's not impossible, you are just sitting to close.And as far as gaming goes, you don't have to set the game or screen to 4k.
For putting any screen into any quadrant, you can use Window key + arrow keys built into Windows. You don't need 2 or 4 way picture by picture.
Alistair - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
You're best off buying the LG SM8600 49" TV, it is almost the same size, but has real HDR support, and 120hz support at 1440p (and maybe even g-sync support starting today). And it is cheaper. I gave up waiting for a 120hz compatible 43 inch TV.imaheadcase - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
TV vs monitor. The specs are not created equal.brucethemoose - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
Well that's kinda the point?... Spec wise, the monitor is pretty much worse in every way if you don't need PoP.Alistair - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
The Samsung Q60 might be an interesting choice for the 43" size also. But it doesn't support 120hz like the LG, and isn't IPS.TEAMSWITCHER - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
I bet it's the same IPS panel that is in their UM7300PUA TV that I use for a PC display... It was only $300. Plus you get speakers, apps, bluetooth, wifi, & ethernet.Alistair - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
No it is the same as in their higher end models. "a7 Gen 2 processor" like the OLED TV and "nano cell" quantum dot colour.Death666Angel - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
"If you want a 43" monitor, just buy a 49" TV!"Profit!
Alistair - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
it's only 6 inches different, and we have this thing called "windows" in Windows that can scale the window to any size you wantkind of missed the whole thing where the specs of the TV are superior to the monitor in almost every way? resolution, refresh rate, HDR support, cost, everything
close - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
43" is at the (very) big end of whatever people would consider a monitor (usually to be placed on a work desk). Adding "just" 6" does not help. The fact that "we have windows" completely misses the point that this is not the actual problem. Most people barely fit a 50" TV in a living room, let alone on a work desk.When someone wants an SUV you don't offer them a tractor head just because it can pull more or because *you* like them.
Alistair - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
ok, your analogy breaks down though, you don't realize how large this monitor is, it is 38 inches wide, and the TV is 43 inches wide. That's only 5 inches different. They are BOTH very large. I only suggested it because you get quantum dot colour, speakers that are 10x better, 120hz, and more, and a lower price.Alistair - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
believe me, i'd prefer 43", but 120hz isn't available at that sizeclose - Friday, November 15, 2019 - link
"That's only 5 inches different."Funny. You're implying that because it's only 5" more it should fit right? I can use this reasoning to add 5" again, and again, and again. If a 43" wide TV fits then a 48" wide TV should also fit, right? Just 5". So 53" wide? Of course a 58" wide TV will fit.
Sarcasm aside, *most* work desks in this world are not designed to fit a 49" TV and even the bigger ones can barely fit a 43" screen. You simply can't sit at the proper viewing distance in 99.9999% of cases. You can't just sit 1m away from a 1.25m screen which means that you need a desk that's at least 1m wide, screen bolted to the wall, and you sitting pretty far away even from that desk.
It may be better but you'll never enjoy using it unless you have a very, very specific set of conditions.
HermosaBeach - Tuesday, November 10, 2020 - link
In 99% of the case, the TV display text is blurry. I'm not talking about 72 point fonts used to display TV titles when sitting on your couch, I'm talking about 10 point Arial font in a Microsoft Word document, or spreadsheet. On a monitor (external or laptop), these are crystal sharp, with clean black to white translations. On TVs, the text is not crisp. I would not want to use a TV for 8 to 10 hour of work, every day.darkswordsman17 - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
HDMI 2.0 and not 2.1? Are we going to have to wait for DP 2.0 to get products with HDMI 2.1 in the PC space (so video cards and displays)?mrvco - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
Tempting, this is the right size for a native 4k desktop, but I still haven't come to terms with having a single monitor this large on my desktop instead of two 1440p 27" monitors... especially when one of those is a 144MHz FreeSync IPS monitor.surt - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
Who is the market for a 'gaming' display under 120hz these days? These products make no sense to me.bug77 - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
Pretty much any gamer that doesn't do FPS or eSports.quorm - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
This monitor is interesting. Is there any 4k display (tv or monitor) of this size with FALD?zodiacfml - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
Should have not included speakers. My sister's 4k LG TV and I got ruined LCDs, in just one and two years. The technician and I suspected vibrations through built in speakers. Her TV is under warranty but still waiting for the panel to be sourced from Korea.Disappointing considering we have a Full HD LG TV for 10 years without issues except it can consume 200 watts at full brightness.
godrilla - Monday, November 11, 2019 - link
Check out microcenter early black Friday sale monitors like 4k 27 inch XB273K hdr 400 gsync monitor is selling $649 before 5% insider discount.HO omen BFD 65 inch hdr 1000 gsync ultimate dropped to $2700 before 5% discount.
Asus PG27UQ down to $1099 before discount lol this was selling for $2k facepalm
Asus 43 inch hdr 600 XG438Q down to $999
What I'm interested is in the new hdr 1000 by Acer CG437K gsync compatible monitor that just launched for $1499.
godrilla - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
hp*drgigolo - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
Got so excited reading the headline, and then so disappointed when reading the spec sheet. Where is the VRR support? Grr. Why can't we get proper VRR as well? 45-60Hz is perfectly fine (roughly what my 1080Ti can support).Also, how about a 120Hz panel? How about HDR1000 support?
lilkwarrior - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
Great size, but DOA without Dolby Vision & HLG HDR + HDMI 2.1 this late in the year.What’s up with monitor manufacturing being strangely cheap with not adopting major HDR standards vastly superior & vastly used by TV & mainstream devices & I/O that’ll actually last the next 5 years?
Dug - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
I agree. I also would like to see more 32" Not 42 or 43"Drazick - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
Could you give us 34" with 3000 x 2000 resolution?boeush - Friday, November 15, 2019 - link
Because then we would all be happy customers. And nobody wants a happy customer, because business reasons...Seriously, though, I'd too be all over such a monitir. - if only one existed.
danielfranklin - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
RGB stripe or other?In the past all monitors like this used something different which led to major issues, particaully under Mac.
This as a proper RGB is a killer monitor for IT people.
asianjabba - Sunday, November 17, 2019 - link
anybody see this for sale anywhere? it actually works perfect for me, need something that splits my photoshop work with some plex server with some random office work and still have room for another input (maybe a xbox or something). I don't even see it start selling in japan yet