If I'm reading that table correctly, will they be releasing every memory speed across every line? I would LOVE some heatspreaderless DDR4-3600, and even 3200 really.
Why do people always feel the need to whine about RGB products when a news story about them comes out? They're obviously for a different demographic, and nobody is making you use them.
Just look at the number of new high quality cases/fans/keyboards/mice(to a lesser extent) in 19 with RGB and compare it to the number without RGB lighting. You will see that you don't really have a choice and this is forced on everyone...
You understand that LEDs can be disconnected or disabled, right? My case and motherboard both have RGB LEDs. After playing around with it for a few minutes after the build, both have been firmly in the "off" setting. This is not a problem.
You people keep saying that but there will always be translucent grey plastic/ or unnecessary acrylic windows all over the place if you disable the leds (even my G pro mouse looks like ass when I disable the light).
The whole design of all that RGB crap is made in a way that makes it only look acceptable when at least some light is on. Just look at those DIMMs above. How would they look with lights off? At leas we still have choice for DIMMs.
In time where the DIY PC market is in decay with a shrinking general PC market, the only thing that is getting attention is gaming. People who want to build a reasonably good looking PC without RGBs have much less components to choose from.
BTW I don't care about RGB mobos because they can be hidden in a non-windowed case (but with less and less choices for cases). Turning RGBs off is not enough on most RGB mobos because the design is just bad.
Yeah, just look at new cases this year and say that again. You barely have any good new non-RGB / non-windowed / non-meshed cases. Most of those are either super cheap business PC cases (where nobody cares how they look) or super expensive cases. The middle segment is lost to "gamers".
Even companies like Lian Li or Fractal Design offer less and less non-gaming cases.
How is RGB bling a "gaming" element? It has nothing whatsoever to do with playing computer games.
I get that PC enthusiasts can generally be sold anything under the "gaming" label, but Anandtech shouldn't mindlessly buy into it too. Instead, you should be making this same point.
That's not how colloquialisms work sir. Once they become part of the standard vernacular, it's the standard operating procedure to reference them as a material aspect of a given category or concept.
"Gaming" refers to a lot of things in society, to various different people. RGB is also just a choice to enable or not. You do understand that it costs them less to manufacture RGB-based tech and add it to their product lines than it costs to split the product lines, etc.
Do you know what else doesn't have anything to do with playing computer games directly? Ascetics as a whole! See below for other examples:
1. LED keyboards 2. Any design or coloration on a case 3. Any cooling beyond stock/cheapest air 4. Any case lights 5. Monitor designs being anything other than a box with light (the panel is all that matters) 6. Any material other than plastic in a case
Just because YOU feel like it's not part of gaming and vernacular surrounding it doesn't make that true. Your opinion isn't a fact, nor is it a basis of determining the wants or needs of others. This argument is getting older than RGB on everything. At least RGB can be shut off; unfortunately, people complaining about RGB don't have said off-switch.
Just because YOU feel like it's a part of gaming and vernacular surrounding it doesn't make that true.
And your reading comprehension could be improved. I didn't complain about the RGB being present. I complained about marketing that aspect of the product as an adjunct to gaming. I game pretty steadily without the slightest concern about how my PC case appears. And, as a computer gamer, I'm offended by the inference that because of that I will automatically value bling. You, apparently, don't mind being packaged, talked down to, and sold. But I think we need to draw the line somewhere. Hence the complaint.
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xnor - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
Yuck RGB.LordSojar - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
Yuck, opposition to having options and a choice.azfacea - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
RGAYB in 2019 LULValantar - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
If I'm reading that table correctly, will they be releasing every memory speed across every line? I would LOVE some heatspreaderless DDR4-3600, and even 3200 really.mjz_5 - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
sad thing about RGB is that even adults like them.. they are here to stay :(YoloPascual - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
RGB/s > GB/sDizoja86 - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
Why do people always feel the need to whine about RGB products when a news story about them comes out? They're obviously for a different demographic, and nobody is making you use them.brakdoo - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
Just look at the number of new high quality cases/fans/keyboards/mice(to a lesser extent) in 19 with RGB and compare it to the number without RGB lighting. You will see that you don't really have a choice and this is forced on everyone...Valantar - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
You understand that LEDs can be disconnected or disabled, right? My case and motherboard both have RGB LEDs. After playing around with it for a few minutes after the build, both have been firmly in the "off" setting. This is not a problem.brakdoo - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
You people keep saying that but there will always be translucent grey plastic/ or unnecessary acrylic windows all over the place if you disable the leds (even my G pro mouse looks like ass when I disable the light).The whole design of all that RGB crap is made in a way that makes it only look acceptable when at least some light is on. Just look at those DIMMs above. How would they look with lights off? At leas we still have choice for DIMMs.
In time where the DIY PC market is in decay with a shrinking general PC market, the only thing that is getting attention is gaming. People who want to build a reasonably good looking PC without RGBs have much less components to choose from.
BTW I don't care about RGB mobos because they can be hidden in a non-windowed case (but with less and less choices for cases). Turning RGBs off is not enough on most RGB mobos because the design is just bad.
Dizoja86 - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
There are tons of options without RGB. I've never had an issue doing PC builds without RGB. It's really not forced on anyone.brakdoo - Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - link
Yeah, just look at new cases this year and say that again. You barely have any good new non-RGB / non-windowed / non-meshed cases. Most of those are either super cheap business PC cases (where nobody cares how they look) or super expensive cases. The middle segment is lost to "gamers".Even companies like Lian Li or Fractal Design offer less and less non-gaming cases.
Arbie - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
How is RGB bling a "gaming" element? It has nothing whatsoever to do with playing computer games.I get that PC enthusiasts can generally be sold anything under the "gaming" label, but Anandtech shouldn't mindlessly buy into it too. Instead, you should be making this same point.
LordSojar - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
That's not how colloquialisms work sir. Once they become part of the standard vernacular, it's the standard operating procedure to reference them as a material aspect of a given category or concept."Gaming" refers to a lot of things in society, to various different people. RGB is also just a choice to enable or not. You do understand that it costs them less to manufacture RGB-based tech and add it to their product lines than it costs to split the product lines, etc.
Do you know what else doesn't have anything to do with playing computer games directly? Ascetics as a whole! See below for other examples:
1. LED keyboards
2. Any design or coloration on a case
3. Any cooling beyond stock/cheapest air
4. Any case lights
5. Monitor designs being anything other than a box with light (the panel is all that matters)
6. Any material other than plastic in a case
Just because YOU feel like it's not part of gaming and vernacular surrounding it doesn't make that true. Your opinion isn't a fact, nor is it a basis of determining the wants or needs of others. This argument is getting older than RGB on everything. At least RGB can be shut off; unfortunately, people complaining about RGB don't have said off-switch.
Diji1 - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
Thank you Captain Obvious.Arbie - Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - link
Just because YOU feel like it's a part of gaming and vernacular surrounding it doesn't make that true.And your reading comprehension could be improved. I didn't complain about the RGB being present. I complained about marketing that aspect of the product as an adjunct to gaming. I game pretty steadily without the slightest concern about how my PC case appears. And, as a computer gamer, I'm offended by the inference that because of that I will automatically value bling. You, apparently, don't mind being packaged, talked down to, and sold. But I think we need to draw the line somewhere. Hence the complaint.
PeachNCream - Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - link
Hmm, those look like stupid products.