10GbE is seriously overkill on mid-range boards like this. People are not going to have any other equipment for that at home for years to come, and it only drives the cost up.
Add-In cards are not that expensive anymore if you want one.
While I don't disagree with that assessment I find it unfortunate that that most of the mid-spec (and even high-end) boards have little differentiation between vendors.
I find myself uninterested in 80-90% of the additional features, like additional M.2 slots, Wi-Fi, multiple x16/8 slots etc., while still unable to find reasonably priced (~300ish, presumably...) boards with 10 GbE.
Even worse the boards that do offer 2.5 GbE uses a RealTek controller and while those may be much better than the their older offerings I have a real hard time settling for RealTek in the networking space. :P
I suppose the solution would be to get a board with a good/cool VRM, good integrated sound, USB 3.1g2 support for the front panel and then get a 10 GbE add-in board.
Just would be nice to have more differentiation among the huge number of boards we're seeing.
And you know, more than one high-end offering for passive chipset cooling. :P
With PCIe 4.0, I think you can settle for a single lanes to get 10 Gb? It should give you 1.969 GB/s in each direction, which is almost 16 Gb. Seems worth it to me.
A big problem with smaller boards and PCIe 4.0 M.2 slots on the underside of the board. They won't accommodate a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive with cooler. It will be interesting to see what solution they come up with. Right know you simply can't use the M.2 slots and PCIe 4.0 SSD's.
You're right, didn't notice that. But still, some X570 mini-ITX boards still have their M.2 slot(s) at the underside like the Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX.
Wasn't CEO Charles Chiang caught boot-licking Intel in the last year?
Micro-Star is down -34.70% this year but with a dividend yield of 5.45% ii I guess that's a bad/good news kind of thing. Maybe Chuckles backed the wrong horse ...
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sircolby45 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
I wish more boards had 10GBE...At the least they should all have 2.5GBE.nevcairiel - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
10GbE is seriously overkill on mid-range boards like this. People are not going to have any other equipment for that at home for years to come, and it only drives the cost up.Add-In cards are not that expensive anymore if you want one.
Exodite - Saturday, June 1, 2019 - link
While I don't disagree with that assessment I find it unfortunate that that most of the mid-spec (and even high-end) boards have little differentiation between vendors.I find myself uninterested in 80-90% of the additional features, like additional M.2 slots, Wi-Fi, multiple x16/8 slots etc., while still unable to find reasonably priced (~300ish, presumably...) boards with 10 GbE.
Even worse the boards that do offer 2.5 GbE uses a RealTek controller and while those may be much better than the their older offerings I have a real hard time settling for RealTek in the networking space. :P
I suppose the solution would be to get a board with a good/cool VRM, good integrated sound, USB 3.1g2 support for the front panel and then get a 10 GbE add-in board.
Just would be nice to have more differentiation among the huge number of boards we're seeing.
And you know, more than one high-end offering for passive chipset cooling. :P
Martin_Schou - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
With PCIe 4.0, I think you can settle for a single lanes to get 10 Gb? It should give you 1.969 GB/s in each direction, which is almost 16 Gb. Seems worth it to me.5080 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
A big problem with smaller boards and PCIe 4.0 M.2 slots on the underside of the board. They won't accommodate a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive with cooler. It will be interesting to see what solution they come up with. Right know you simply can't use the M.2 slots and PCIe 4.0 SSD's.Doc Rob - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
I think you missed something the NVMe location is on the top of the board under the heat-sinks.5080 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
You're right, didn't notice that. But still, some X570 mini-ITX boards still have their M.2 slot(s) at the underside like the Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX.trparky - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
If you want small there's going to be some sacrifices.Smell This - Saturday, June 1, 2019 - link
Wasn't CEO Charles Chiang caught boot-licking Intel in the last year?Micro-Star is down -34.70% this year but with a dividend yield of 5.45% ii I guess that's a bad/good news kind of thing. Maybe Chuckles backed the wrong horse ...