My guess is that they are too invested in Thunderbolt, which as of now cannot be combined with Ryzen. One can hope it changes when USB4 hopefully makes it easier for vendors to integrate Thunderbolt on non-Intel systems.
Focusing on just the CPU and this form factor, what specific benefits does Ryzen bring to this table over its competitor? Is it lower cost and power, higher performance and power efficiency, better graphics or security, better availability? I'm just curious what the business case is for choosing Ryzen for this type of product, as opposed to why any specific person might find this choice attractive.
Potentially lower cost, but more importantly, these have decent GPUs for light gaming and media streaming. These would make excellent HTPCs for that reason since they will generally get very close to Intel in CPU performance, but surpass them vastly in GPU..
You could also ask the other way around: Why would any specific person chose the Intel model over the Ryzen offering ?
If you look at the based models (G400 vs. G405) for around $500, you either get the 2C2T Celeron G4900T (2.9Ghz) or the 2C4T PRO 200 GE (3.2 Ghz) with much better performing integrated graphics and double the cache (L1-L3).
The Celeron G4900T does not support Intel vPro, whereas the Athlon Pro 200GE does support AMD's security technologies. ...
As usual the photos are deceptive, as they don't show the power supply brick. The one on my HP Z2 Mini G4 is comically large. The Mac Mini, on the other hand, has a built-in PSU with just an IEC C8 jack. It's also unfortunate it has a Realtek NIC
I will nave buy hp prodisk 400 g2. Vey bad experience. I am using these computers in IT labs in diffrent schools. In each school lab 15 computers in which almost half of computers have bios issue.
Oh gosh, that's an adorable little PC! I'm not all that interested in desktops these days, but this one is cute and it gets around Ryzen's awful idle power management problems in notebooks simply by being chained to an outlet where its a non-issue.
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BigMamaInHouse - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
Nice! Finally mini PC with usable CPU/GPU unlike some Pentium/i3 based :-).HStewart - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
There are lots of Nuc's you can get with i5 and i7's - not just Pentium/i3's.BigMamaInHouse - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
On CPU side- ok, but iGPU?Also 2400GE similar level Intel based will be much more expensive.
jimc092 - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
Dropped decimal pointThickness 34 mm | 133 inches
should be 1.33 inches
fasterquieter - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
I wish the Mac Mini had taken the Ryzen route. I'd happily sacrifice couple of CPU cores for decent graphics.AdditionalPylons - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
My guess is that they are too invested in Thunderbolt, which as of now cannot be combined with Ryzen. One can hope it changes when USB4 hopefully makes it easier for vendors to integrate Thunderbolt on non-Intel systems.nicolaim - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
No USB type-C? LOLsandtitz - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
So you didn't read the article? LOLSamus - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
LOLGreyFox7 - Saturday, March 23, 2019 - link
LKtracho - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
Focusing on just the CPU and this form factor, what specific benefits does Ryzen bring to this table over its competitor? Is it lower cost and power, higher performance and power efficiency, better graphics or security, better availability? I'm just curious what the business case is for choosing Ryzen for this type of product, as opposed to why any specific person might find this choice attractive.gijames1225 - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
Potentially lower cost, but more importantly, these have decent GPUs for light gaming and media streaming. These would make excellent HTPCs for that reason since they will generally get very close to Intel in CPU performance, but surpass them vastly in GPU..Irata - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
You could also ask the other way around: Why would any specific person chose the Intel model over the Ryzen offering ?If you look at the based models (G400 vs. G405) for around $500, you either get the 2C2T Celeron G4900T (2.9Ghz) or the 2C4T PRO 200 GE (3.2 Ghz) with much better performing integrated graphics and double the cache (L1-L3).
The Celeron G4900T does not support Intel vPro, whereas the Athlon Pro 200GE does support AMD's security technologies. ...
mooninite - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
Nice! Overpriced though. Intel's NUC has these beat price-wise. I would love to have a Ryzen tiny PC option that matches a NUC price.cosmotic - Wednesday, April 3, 2019 - link
Based on bechmarks for the GPUs, this has the NUC beat by a large margin.fazalmajid - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
As usual the photos are deceptive, as they don't show the power supply brick. The one on my HP Z2 Mini G4 is comically large. The Mac Mini, on the other hand, has a built-in PSU with just an IEC C8 jack. It's also unfortunate it has a Realtek NICJoeDuarte - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link
Why is there a cutout for another DisplayPort to the left of the DisplayPort?mathew7 - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
No spdif? NUCs seem to lost that except for the celerons. But I want.....Smell This - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
Unfortunately, time and specifications have passed on the S/PDIF . . . RIP(insert screed here on manufactured obsolescence)
Smell This - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
I'm thinkin' a fancy, new USB Type-C cable would handle a sheet-load (technical term) of 8-channel loss-less streams at serious bit-rates . . .shiraz88 - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
I will nave buy hp prodisk 400 g2. Vey bad experience. I am using these computers in IT labs in diffrent schools. In each school lab 15 computers in which almost half of computers have bios issue.SeanFL - Monday, January 20, 2020 - link
I put 20+ of the elitedesk 800 in a computer lab and they've worked wonderfully. Wonder if the 400g2 had specific issues or a bad bios update or ?PeachNCream - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link
Oh gosh, that's an adorable little PC! I'm not all that interested in desktops these days, but this one is cute and it gets around Ryzen's awful idle power management problems in notebooks simply by being chained to an outlet where its a non-issue.oRAirwolf - Friday, March 22, 2019 - link
Nice PC for a nice price but it's kind of ugly to me. I think it would look a lot better if they went with the HP Spectre design language.cosmotic - Wednesday, April 3, 2019 - link
I'm glad they went the direction they did. I find the Spectre aesthetic, especially the newer ones, quite gaudy.