I would think considering the market this is going for, most people will have decent PC to do 4k60 in all but the demanding game. I mean just looking at games being streamed most can do 4k60 right now because not actually demanding games. The market they are going to sell is not going to care if a few hundred more than the 4k30....especially if the price on the 30 is not even known at launch so most thing its a normal price.
If this is aimed at streamers, than 4K anything is overkill. Streaming platforms simply don't offer the bitrates to provide high quality 1080p60, let alone 4K60.
Many streamers will record a high quality version of their broadcast that they can post to Youtube and/or grab highlights from. I agree that streaming live at more than 1080p30/720p60 is mostly pointless due to bitrate restrictions but it you're at the point of having a dedicated streaming PC you're likely interested in capturing and recording at a higher rate.
I'm assuming the point of this box is to pair it with a separate gaming PC running a dGPU, in which case this whole other PC just captures the video, encodes, and streams. Is a 2nd PC really necessary given the capabilities of QuickSync and other hardware encoders? My skylake i5 is able to transcode bluerays at 1080p at >60fps by using QSV, but the CPU usage is still pretty high 70-90% so that doesn't leave much for playing a game. I would think it makes more sense to buy a suitably powerful gaming PC with enough CPU cores to also handle streaming at the same time.
On the other hand, if 4k60 streaming is a necessity, then a box like this likely becomes necessary, which may be the whole point to begin with.
There is still an impact on performance. It's generally low, but it's there.
A separate box has other advantages aside from just performance though. For one, it's input agnostic. Want to stream a console game today? Move a few cords around and go for it.
Another advantage is stability. Games can be buggy and GPU drivers have great power to crash systems. For a streamer trying to make money having the stream go dead because a game crashed the GPU hard is not a good thing. External capture keeps the stream live, showing the crash and your reaction.
A third advantage is compatibility. Some games really don't get along with the way OBS captures video. Workarounds for this are sometimes buggy and almost always cost performance. External capture just works.
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imaheadcase - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
I would think considering the market this is going for, most people will have decent PC to do 4k60 in all but the demanding game. I mean just looking at games being streamed most can do 4k60 right now because not actually demanding games. The market they are going to sell is not going to care if a few hundred more than the 4k30....especially if the price on the 30 is not even known at launch so most thing its a normal price.jordanclock - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
If this is aimed at streamers, than 4K anything is overkill. Streaming platforms simply don't offer the bitrates to provide high quality 1080p60, let alone 4K60.wolrah - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
Many streamers will record a high quality version of their broadcast that they can post to Youtube and/or grab highlights from. I agree that streaming live at more than 1080p30/720p60 is mostly pointless due to bitrate restrictions but it you're at the point of having a dedicated streaming PC you're likely interested in capturing and recording at a higher rate.XelaChang - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
Not true at all.I having been watching amazing 1440p60 streams by SaintSam on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bofDEob1h28
Rocket321 - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
I'm assuming the point of this box is to pair it with a separate gaming PC running a dGPU, in which case this whole other PC just captures the video, encodes, and streams. Is a 2nd PC really necessary given the capabilities of QuickSync and other hardware encoders? My skylake i5 is able to transcode bluerays at 1080p at >60fps by using QSV, but the CPU usage is still pretty high 70-90% so that doesn't leave much for playing a game. I would think it makes more sense to buy a suitably powerful gaming PC with enough CPU cores to also handle streaming at the same time.On the other hand, if 4k60 streaming is a necessity, then a box like this likely becomes necessary, which may be the whole point to begin with.
wolrah - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
There is still an impact on performance. It's generally low, but it's there.A separate box has other advantages aside from just performance though. For one, it's input agnostic. Want to stream a console game today? Move a few cords around and go for it.
Another advantage is stability. Games can be buggy and GPU drivers have great power to crash systems. For a streamer trying to make money having the stream go dead because a game crashed the GPU hard is not a good thing. External capture keeps the stream live, showing the crash and your reaction.
A third advantage is compatibility. Some games really don't get along with the way OBS captures video. Workarounds for this are sometimes buggy and almost always cost performance. External capture just works.
zodiacfml - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - link
Little idea with streaming but AMD cards can do streaming/recording pretty well. This is definitely for consoles or smartphones