Imagine if Anandtech delayed playing those fucking auto-loading buy the right CPU videos which are never actually about CPUs, it keeps showing me some retarded travel shit that I have no interest in.
Yea it is a fucking joke, I don't click on it but as soon as I scroll down the advert pops up in the middle of my screen and forces me to click on it to close it, as soon as I click on the next page it starts all over again, spoiling the well written articles. It literally blocks part of the article..what a joke!.
Debatable, a hosts file only redirects requests to nowhere, the browser still has to make the requests for the OS to use the hosts file to redirect them. A good ad blocker will stop the browser from even making the requests to ad servers in the first place, probably the only difference is which one can process its list faster. But ad blockers are somewhat at a disadvantage here because they can block all or any portion of a URL and can use multiple lists instead of being limited to only domain names in one single file like the OS hosts file. But I'd say it is a good trade off for the automatically updating blacklists ad blockers offer, no need to keep updating the hosts file or run a separate utility that does it for you.
uOrigin - I'm OK with adds but autoplay vidoes is what makes me go and visit other sites - Anandtech is on the verge of getting cut from the sites I browse because of this.
It's sort of funny in a depressing way to see that readers now regularly generate lots of comments about auto playing videos rather than the contents of the articles. I'd love to continue to support Anandtech since the editors write good articles, but I had to strip the site from my whitelist because I couldn't stand the reader-abusive, stupid auto play video that gets shoveled onto us. Adblocked AT is cleaner, but the lack of ads has also made me start to realize how little actual content I was getting for bothering to read articles and deal with all of the ads to begin with.
Seriously, I'm all for supporting content producers but once these kind of obnoxious ads have repeatedly appeared on a site (Anandtech isn't the only one) I consider my obligations null and void.
Well, millenials don't watch TV so the only way to put ads down their throat is with internet.
I also use noscript. At some point, one of these ads installed malaware on my machine, or tried I should say. Since that time, I am trying to block as much popups as possible.
It's not only video ads. Some websites auto-play a video of the same article you are there to read. Some websites would even play videos completely unrelated to the article.
One of the worst offenders is forbes. I used to read their articles now and then but ever since they started auto-playing videos, I'd actively avoid opening their links whenever I see them in search results.
I tried. I seriously tried. I disabled adblock because I like what Anandtech does. But there's so many ads that it's impossible. There's tons of ads on the side, but those are bearable. The stupid around the web things are annoying, but they're at the bottom so I don't really see them. But the addition of the video did it for me... I don't need some video ad followed by a video about stuff I already know eating up my battery that I have to manually close every single time.
This has got to end with an ad-free subscription model. Regular readers just can't accommodate this level of ad distraction. It doesn't even make good tech sense -- high CPU and temps from the anandtech tabs forced me to re-enable adblock a few weeks ago. Really need a better way to support the site.
I had to disable UBlock to see what you were talking about. Why are you not blocking this stuff? They'll just keep shoving it down your throat until you take away their revenue. When it starts hitting them in the pocketbook they'll rethink the obnoxious ads.
We want to support the site that we like. When ads like that appear, we want to tell the publisher what they're doing is not right. We will wait. If it's still appear after sometimes, we will remove from our whitelist.
The MSRP is $999; manufacturers can still choose to price it higher though (much like what we saw with the 1070, where a lot of the cards were closer to $450 than $379)
Oh, it's going to get a lot better. There's a 10% tariff scheduled to hit PC components assembled in China (ie most of them) starting October 1 unless either Trump or Xi back down. Given the size of the ego's involved I don't see either leader doing so.
Medium/long term at least some of the OEMs are looking at relocating final assembly to Taiwan or Mexico to avoid the hit, but in the short term building assembly lines and training up staff mean we won't see any immediate savings from them doing so.
It will get better. Almost every part in a video card sold here doesn't come from China, it's the final assembly. That's the wisdom of only having a trade war with one country at a time, there are many substitutes. I'll gladly buy a card finished in Taiwan or Korea. Or do it in Mexico or Vietnam.
The cheapest, most crappy non-FE card rings up for $1210. You cant even find a single model that is less than the $1199 of the FE, much less approaching the $999 "claimed" MSRP.
They're all going to want to make up for having to swallow nVidia's overstock of 10 series inventory. Whichever way you slice it, the only way it'll change is if AMD perform a miracle with their next generation (unlikely) or if their customers stop bending over and taking (even less likely).
Hell, I'm likely to become part of the problem. I want a gaming notebook that's at least a slight upgrade from my desktop GTX 970. AMD options in that area are non-existent. Thanks AMD, and thanks to the fools who open their wallets for this.
well its a little different isnt it. iphone vendors dont manufacture different variations of the iphone. nvidia's msrp concept is a little different. I'm trying to remember where i read this back in pascal days but msrp is the price for the pcb and then vendors add in their own cooling solutions which is why u see an increase in price.
While we're at it, the "From the Web" ads are also really obnoxious. If I'm browsing Anandtech at my job, it looks really sketchy and nsfw (girl in tank top...some girl in bed).
Agree with the comments regarding the adds. They are now covering as much as 75% of the page. It´s getting to much. @Anandtech, please try and look into this. It´s becoming to much
The delay in the general release of the new RTX cards may be in consumers' favor. There are at the moment apparently only about 75 games in total that will have a substantial benefit from the real-time ray tracing. However, those using GPU ray tracing rendering in 3D CAD modeling, animation, and GPU compute simulation should see the value right away.
The delay will give buyers a chance to see some solid, independent benchmarks in the games / applications they use before buying. I have an idea that when these results are available, demand will drop some and in a few weeks, so will prices. If the real world results on screen are as amazing as NVIDIA demonstrated, no doubt many games will adapt in the RT direction, but I imagine that some games will move more slowly as not everyone can rush out and buy a $1,000+ GPU.
Another reason for waiting is in consideration of the many people that rushed to preorder RTX will be selling piles of GTX 1080 Ti's and etc, in about a three weeks,...
I use ray tracing rendering in 3D CAD on a combination of Quadro P2000 and GTX 1070 Ti (Strix), and I'm waiting anyway for whatever the Quadro RTX2000 or RTX 4000 will be and run a single GPU and perhaps on an i9-9900K system.
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timecop1818 - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Imagine if Anandtech delayed playing those fucking auto-loading buy the right CPU videos which are never actually about CPUs, it keeps showing me some retarded travel shit that I have no interest in.french toast - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Yea it is a fucking joke, I don't click on it but as soon as I scroll down the advert pops up in the middle of my screen and forces me to click on it to close it, as soon as I click on the next page it starts all over again, spoiling the well written articles.It literally blocks part of the article..what a joke!.
alacard - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Plug the following into your hosts file (c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts), you'll probably need to open it as an administrator, and save:https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/zero/
You're welcome.
krazyfrog - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Doesn't an ad blocker do the same thing?alacard - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
It does, but this is faster. It stops requests before they even reach your browser, so your adblock doesn't have to expand resources to block them.I consider receiving adds like the one described above as being on the receiving end of an abusive relationship, and I act accordingly.
Anandtech, your move.
IndianaKrom - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Debatable, a hosts file only redirects requests to nowhere, the browser still has to make the requests for the OS to use the hosts file to redirect them. A good ad blocker will stop the browser from even making the requests to ad servers in the first place, probably the only difference is which one can process its list faster. But ad blockers are somewhat at a disadvantage here because they can block all or any portion of a URL and can use multiple lists instead of being limited to only domain names in one single file like the OS hosts file. But I'd say it is a good trade off for the automatically updating blacklists ad blockers offer, no need to keep updating the hosts file or run a separate utility that does it for you.Cellar Door - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
uOrigin - I'm OK with adds but autoplay vidoes is what makes me go and visit other sites - Anandtech is on the verge of getting cut from the sites I browse because of this.PeachNCream - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
It's sort of funny in a depressing way to see that readers now regularly generate lots of comments about auto playing videos rather than the contents of the articles. I'd love to continue to support Anandtech since the editors write good articles, but I had to strip the site from my whitelist because I couldn't stand the reader-abusive, stupid auto play video that gets shoveled onto us. Adblocked AT is cleaner, but the lack of ads has also made me start to realize how little actual content I was getting for bothering to read articles and deal with all of the ads to begin with.Exodite - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Adblock.Seriously, I'm all for supporting content producers but once these kind of obnoxious ads have repeatedly appeared on a site (Anandtech isn't the only one) I consider my obligations null and void.
eva02langley - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Well, millenials don't watch TV so the only way to put ads down their throat is with internet.I also use noscript. At some point, one of these ads installed malaware on my machine, or tried I should say. Since that time, I am trying to block as much popups as possible.
eddman - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
It's not only video ads. Some websites auto-play a video of the same article you are there to read. Some websites would even play videos completely unrelated to the article.One of the worst offenders is forbes. I used to read their articles now and then but ever since they started auto-playing videos, I'd actively avoid opening their links whenever I see them in search results.
Dr. Swag - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
I tried. I seriously tried. I disabled adblock because I like what Anandtech does. But there's so many ads that it's impossible. There's tons of ads on the side, but those are bearable. The stupid around the web things are annoying, but they're at the bottom so I don't really see them. But the addition of the video did it for me... I don't need some video ad followed by a video about stuff I already know eating up my battery that I have to manually close every single time.voicequal - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
This has got to end with an ad-free subscription model. Regular readers just can't accommodate this level of ad distraction. It doesn't even make good tech sense -- high CPU and temps from the anandtech tabs forced me to re-enable adblock a few weeks ago. Really need a better way to support the site.SantaAna12 - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Yeah....imagine that. But Anandtech would never do something so annoying. Would they?29a - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
I had to disable UBlock to see what you were talking about. Why are you not blocking this stuff? They'll just keep shoving it down your throat until you take away their revenue. When it starts hitting them in the pocketbook they'll rethink the obnoxious ads.0iron - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
We want to support the site that we like. When ads like that appear, we want to tell the publisher what they're doing is not right. We will wait. If it's still appear after sometimes, we will remove from our whitelist.XabanakFanatik - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
"To recap, the RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition is priced at $1199, while non-Founders Edition cards will be $999."This is a straight up lie. Straight from Nvidia and you're simply perpetrating the lie for them.
Dr. Swag - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
The MSRP is $999; manufacturers can still choose to price it higher though (much like what we saw with the 1070, where a lot of the cards were closer to $450 than $379)DanNeely - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Oh, it's going to get a lot better. There's a 10% tariff scheduled to hit PC components assembled in China (ie most of them) starting October 1 unless either Trump or Xi back down. Given the size of the ego's involved I don't see either leader doing so.Medium/long term at least some of the OEMs are looking at relocating final assembly to Taiwan or Mexico to avoid the hit, but in the short term building assembly lines and training up staff mean we won't see any immediate savings from them doing so.
https://wccftech.com/exclusive-nvidia-rtx-series-m...
Alistair - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
It will get better. Almost every part in a video card sold here doesn't come from China, it's the final assembly. That's the wisdom of only having a trade war with one country at a time, there are many substitutes. I'll gladly buy a card finished in Taiwan or Korea. Or do it in Mexico or Vietnam.Death666Angel - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
Please leave planet earth.XabanakFanatik - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
The cheapest, most crappy non-FE card rings up for $1210. You cant even find a single model that is less than the $1199 of the FE, much less approaching the $999 "claimed" MSRP.jordanclock - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
The S in MSRP stands for Suggested. If the AIBs and retailers can sell out their cards at a higher price, they absolutely will.Alistair - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
nVidia manipulate's their own pricing so that nobody sells at MSRP. It is a lie. You see authorized retailers selling iPhones for $250 more than MSRP?Spunjji - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
They're all going to want to make up for having to swallow nVidia's overstock of 10 series inventory. Whichever way you slice it, the only way it'll change is if AMD perform a miracle with their next generation (unlikely) or if their customers stop bending over and taking (even less likely).Hell, I'm likely to become part of the problem. I want a gaming notebook that's at least a slight upgrade from my desktop GTX 970. AMD options in that area are non-existent. Thanks AMD, and thanks to the fools who open their wallets for this.
Hxx - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
well its a little different isnt it. iphone vendors dont manufacture different variations of the iphone. nvidia's msrp concept is a little different. I'm trying to remember where i read this back in pascal days but msrp is the price for the pcb and then vendors add in their own cooling solutions which is why u see an increase in price.nonoverclock - Sunday, September 16, 2018 - link
While we're at it, the "From the Web" ads are also really obnoxious. If I'm browsing Anandtech at my job, it looks really sketchy and nsfw (girl in tank top...some girl in bed).psychobriggsy - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
Agreed. These are the sorts of adverts that should be attached to clickbait sites, not a site like AnandTech which I consider above that level.Today's video advert really pissed me off, it must have been a minute long, and unpausable. Vile. Abusive.
mikael.skytter - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
Agree with the comments regarding the adds. They are now covering as much as 75% of the page. It´s getting to much. @Anandtech, please try and look into this. It´s becoming to muchBambiBoom - Monday, September 17, 2018 - link
Anandateers,The delay in the general release of the new RTX cards may be in consumers' favor. There are at the moment apparently only about 75 games in total that will have a substantial benefit from the real-time ray tracing. However, those using GPU ray tracing rendering in 3D CAD modeling, animation, and GPU compute simulation should see the value right away.
The delay will give buyers a chance to see some solid, independent benchmarks in the games / applications they use before buying. I have an idea that when these results are available, demand will drop some and in a few weeks, so will prices. If the real world results on screen are as amazing as NVIDIA demonstrated, no doubt many games will adapt in the RT direction, but I imagine that some games will move more slowly as not everyone can rush out and buy a $1,000+ GPU.
Another reason for waiting is in consideration of the many people that rushed to preorder RTX will be selling piles of GTX 1080 Ti's and etc, in about a three weeks,...
I use ray tracing rendering in 3D CAD on a combination of Quadro P2000 and GTX 1070 Ti (Strix), and I'm waiting anyway for whatever the Quadro RTX2000 or RTX 4000 will be and run a single GPU and perhaps on an i9-9900K system.
BambiBoom
milkod2001 - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - link
Very pleasing comment Bambi. So should we order now or wait?29a - Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - link
Is Anandtech not going to release a review? At least a half assed one like the Ryzen review?