the x360, in both Intel and Amd versions are much cheaper models and fail most notably in having batteries that are only half the size of the x800, and in cheaper models are crippled by spinning rust instead of an SSD. The 15" x360's also about pound heavier than the 15" x800 (I'd assume the same is true for the 14 but don't have numbers in front of me).
None of that makes them inherently bad systems; but their overall specs are much lower end. It looks like the only advantage to the x360's chassis is that the hinge will support tent/tablet modes.
I can't help but wonder if the Elitebook models with a discrete RX 540 wouldn't be better served with a Ryzen 7 2700U with 25W cTDP for 95% of the people. And it should be cheaper to HP itself, since a Raven Ridge single SoC should be substantially cheaper to implement in a PCB than Intel's rather large Kaby Lake R (APU + chipset) package + discrete GPU + GDDR5. Even more considering how these laptops are all coming with DDR4-2400 which should put the Vega 10 in a good light.
Is Intel vPro that important? Even so, the Mobile Ryzen Pro equivalents are coming up in just a couple of months.
And if they play, the most they will do will be at mobas which the 2700U is well suited for.
There's no point for intel 4coreHT when Ryzen mobile exist, absolutely no need for low end dgpu. As I say always, AMD needs to give the boot to the OEM's and build their own mobile ecosystem with quality build products.
They could easily destroy any OEM at performance/price/quality. And would also let them explore to more custom APU's with HBM making any dgpu for gaming laptops WORTHLESS.
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deathdemon89 - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
Does the Thunderbolt port on these use 4 PCI-e lanes?timecop1818 - Monday, February 12, 2018 - link
Oh fuck off with your 4-lane garbage. Show me one fucking use case where this makes ANY difference.IGTrading - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
I don't see the slightest advantage over the AMD Ryzen based HP x360.Just small stuff ... for double the price .
trivik12 - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
Quality of elitebooks are at another level. Most of the consumer HP laptops are horrible.DanNeely - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
the x360, in both Intel and Amd versions are much cheaper models and fail most notably in having batteries that are only half the size of the x800, and in cheaper models are crippled by spinning rust instead of an SSD. The 15" x360's also about pound heavier than the 15" x800 (I'd assume the same is true for the 14 but don't have numbers in front of me).None of that makes them inherently bad systems; but their overall specs are much lower end. It looks like the only advantage to the x360's chassis is that the hinge will support tent/tablet modes.
ToTTenTranz - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
I can't help but wonder if the Elitebook models with a discrete RX 540 wouldn't be better served with a Ryzen 7 2700U with 25W cTDP for 95% of the people.And it should be cheaper to HP itself, since a Raven Ridge single SoC should be substantially cheaper to implement in a PCB than Intel's rather large Kaby Lake R (APU + chipset) package + discrete GPU + GDDR5. Even more considering how these laptops are all coming with DDR4-2400 which should put the Vega 10 in a good light.
Is Intel vPro that important? Even so, the Mobile Ryzen Pro equivalents are coming up in just a couple of months.
Lolimaster - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
And if they play, the most they will do will be at mobas which the 2700U is well suited for.There's no point for intel 4coreHT when Ryzen mobile exist, absolutely no need for low end dgpu. As I say always, AMD needs to give the boot to the OEM's and build their own mobile ecosystem with quality build products.
They could easily destroy any OEM at performance/price/quality. And would also let them explore to more custom APU's with HBM making any dgpu for gaming laptops WORTHLESS.
Lolimaster - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
Except for those paying 3-4K to play on a brick laptop defeating the purpose.Lolimaster - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
Im pretty sure their new i7's quads are more than twice the cost of the 2700U.nicolaim - Monday, February 12, 2018 - link
Lots of typos in the ZBook table.