My only problem with Zotac SFF PC's is that they never actually come available until the next one, possibly two generations have been announced.
Take for example the generation before this that was announced at CES. It is still unavailable for purchase at this point, and they are now announcing new models.
It wasn't until after CES this year that you could reliably find the model announced at the 2016 Computex.
If they actually executed and produced for sale the products they announced in a timely fashion, I would buy one to replace my living room HTPC/Gaming system in a heartbeat.
Lol nice nitpicking, but R5 1600 is also topping 3.6Ghz only and it's known Intel CPUs still have a 15-20% IPC lead vs Ryzen so it's still impossible for the R5 1600 to come close to a 7700HQ's performance.
Max all-core turbo on the 7700HQ is 3.4Ghz. The Ryzen 1600 also has two extra cores for newer games that can utilize them. That's not to say that the 7700HQ won't do very well in current games, because it will. But it's certainly not nitpicking.
It's funny how everybody thinks that Intel sells only 7700k cpus... 7700HQ is a notebook cpu (45W) with way less performance than the desktop K variant (and it is also locked):
Price: $378 Cores: 4 Threads: 8 Processor Base Frequency: 2.80 GHz Max Turbo Frequency: 3.80 GHz Cache: 6 MB Bus Speed: 8 GT/s DMI3 TDP: 45 W Configurable TDP-down: 35 W
20% is way overstated. At best, Skylake and Kaby Lake have an advantage approaching ~10%. Certainly nothing like 20%. That 20% lead can manifest once you factor in the big advantages kaby lake offers in frequency, but that isn't manifesting in mobile parts.
It completely depends on the workload. 20% would be an absolute best case scenario with the least optimized code possible. As pointed out, 10% is more likely in the vast majority of scenarios, and there are a significant number where Ryzen's architecture is superior to Intel's.
It's pretty much a wash. Outside of some specific workloads most users are equally well served by either platform currently.
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Chaitanya - Saturday, June 3, 2017 - link
8 core CPU in that form factor would be awesome.Charlie22911 - Saturday, June 3, 2017 - link
I'm gonna guess from the model number that they are Ryzen 5 based...meacupla - Sunday, June 4, 2017 - link
yeah, looks that way.EK51060 -> i5 + 1060
EK71070 -> i7 + 1070
ER51070 -> R5 + 1070
Still, 6 cores, 12 threads isn't bad, assuming they use R5 1600
James5mith - Sunday, June 4, 2017 - link
My only problem with Zotac SFF PC's is that they never actually come available until the next one, possibly two generations have been announced.Take for example the generation before this that was announced at CES. It is still unavailable for purchase at this point, and they are now announcing new models.
It wasn't until after CES this year that you could reliably find the model announced at the 2016 Computex.
If they actually executed and produced for sale the products they announced in a timely fashion, I would buy one to replace my living room HTPC/Gaming system in a heartbeat.
James5mith - Sunday, June 4, 2017 - link
*Update: Of course after I read this I go look at Amazon and now the CES 2017 models are actually available in limited supply.artifex - Friday, November 10, 2017 - link
I don't see them on Zotac's own website today, Nov. 10th. At least, not the Ryzen ones.HankP - Sunday, June 4, 2017 - link
Since they're SFF PCs, wouldn't it be relevant to post their sizes? Or did I miss that?Lolimaster - Monday, June 5, 2017 - link
One is probably the R5 1500X which is already better than Skylake i5 and the other the R5 1600 which is also way better than the 7700HQ.They should remove intel from their products, they can get more profits delivering more performance :D
vladx - Monday, June 5, 2017 - link
In gaming scenarios a 7700k beats even a Ryzen 1800x, so nice try fanboy but you can't fool AnandTech readers.bb36 - Monday, June 5, 2017 - link
The 7700k is a desktop cpu topping out at 4.5 and the 7700hq is a mobile part topping out at 3.8.vladx - Monday, June 5, 2017 - link
Lol nice nitpicking, but R5 1600 is also topping 3.6Ghz only and it's known Intel CPUs still have a 15-20% IPC lead vs Ryzen so it's still impossible for the R5 1600 to come close to a 7700HQ's performance.Alexvrb - Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - link
Max all-core turbo on the 7700HQ is 3.4Ghz. The Ryzen 1600 also has two extra cores for newer games that can utilize them. That's not to say that the 7700HQ won't do very well in current games, because it will. But it's certainly not nitpicking.Mugur - Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - link
It's funny how everybody thinks that Intel sells only 7700k cpus... 7700HQ is a notebook cpu (45W) with way less performance than the desktop K variant (and it is also locked):Price: $378
Cores: 4
Threads: 8
Processor Base Frequency: 2.80 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency: 3.80 GHz
Cache: 6 MB
Bus Speed: 8 GT/s DMI3
TDP: 45 W
Configurable TDP-down: 35 W
Any Ryzen 5 will eat it for breakfast.
vladx - Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - link
Nope, Ryzen R5 clocks lower in most cases, not to mention it has a 20% IPC disadvantage as well.Drumsticks - Tuesday, June 6, 2017 - link
20% is way overstated. At best, Skylake and Kaby Lake have an advantage approaching ~10%. Certainly nothing like 20%. That 20% lead can manifest once you factor in the big advantages kaby lake offers in frequency, but that isn't manifesting in mobile parts.Reflex - Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - link
It completely depends on the workload. 20% would be an absolute best case scenario with the least optimized code possible. As pointed out, 10% is more likely in the vast majority of scenarios, and there are a significant number where Ryzen's architecture is superior to Intel's.It's pretty much a wash. Outside of some specific workloads most users are equally well served by either platform currently.
Pompompaihn - Wednesday, June 7, 2017 - link
I have a 7700HQ laptop.It's about as fast as my several year old Haswell i5 3.0ghz desktop.
Ryzen will destroy it in 95% of applications. Don't be a fanboy.