I'm confused. If this needs to be used with a PC, and being only 24" in size is something you'd want to use on your desk sitting a yard away not hanging from the wall with you sitting several times farther away on a couch; what exactly makes it "console" friendly?
I wouldn't get caught up in the marketing of "console" in the name, unless ASUS knows something we don't - that perhaps these AMD-powered consoles will get FreeSync over HDMI support (which would be a great idea).
No, I think the only purpose this serves is to take an inexpensive FreeSync display and cross-promote its value to PC (DP) and console (2x HDMI) gamers at the same time.
I don't care about color accuracy as long as something is vaguely close (blue looks sort of blue, red looks sort of red, etc). I don't care about viewing angles as long as I have a 30-ish degree cone so I can see what I'm doing. I couldn't care less about pixel response as long as the screen doesn't get smeary like an old passive matrix screen on a mid-90s era budget laptop did. The only thing I care about is getting a crappy ~15 inch screen with a 1366x768 or higher resolution, integrated speakers that has an HDMI, DP, DVI, and VGA connector for under $100 because spending money a lot of money on consumer electronics is dumb. For people like me TN is good enough and I'll happy keep buying it or whatever else happens to end up as the bottom feeder of display tech. Life's too short to care about screen technologies.
I almost always agree with you, but I can't go there with you on this. A 15" monitor? There are tablets bigger than that! 768p is pretty low for a monitor too. I can understand if you were ok with a TV that you sit ten feet away from having such low resolution, but when sitting close to a monitor (which is typical) that's just too low. I agree with TN being just fine for most purposes (other than professionals you don't NEED perfect color accuracy) but I'm not sure that saying every piece of tech over $100 is dumb. You seem to have jumped the shark a little bit on this one.
Those standards of mine really are just mine. I thought I made it pretty obvious I was talking about a personal preference in support of why TN panels still exist -- for people like me that don't really care about image quality because we have other things to worry about that are more significant.
Lack of standards more like it. You can buy a "budget" display without over-the-top trash specs like that. Why not go dumpster-diving or to a pawn shop if you're really that much of a cheap-ass?
You're lashing out too? Do you really suffer from so much buyer's remorse that you can't just feel secure in what you're doing with your own money in the privacy of your own home?
Many peope make the same mistake, thinking that "TN being just fine for most purposes (other than professionals you don't NEED perfect color accuracy)"
Actually it's not about only color accuracy, it's mostly about if don't sit at a perfect and centered 90% angle from your tn screen then you're gonna suffer from horrid contrast + brightness +color shift. If you move from that perfect position then the image you'll see is absolutely horrenduous. That's why TN should have died a long time ago
Not everyone cares about everything. It is not necessary that they care about everything. It is not stupidity that they don't care about everything. The market addresses those people with less expensive products because paying for everything doesn't make sense to them. The technology is still around because it sells. It sells because people want it and are willing to accept the tradeoffs. Could we please quit denigrating people just because their personal tastes disagree with what we feel is necessary?
Asus' RoG, G-sync 144Hz gaming monitor impressed me, despite being a TN panel. Yes, the viewing angles are not that good, but the color reproduction was even better than cheap IPS/MVA panels. (and I am spoiled by Surface Pro 4's excellent screen)
What impressed me most, was the low input lag and excellent ghosting reduction, which helps a lot when playing faster paced games.
What seriously needs to go are bottom of the barrel TN panels, because some of them are simply unusable when they're used on laptops. I am talking about color inversion at arm's length, which is just stupid on a laptop. (It was a Lenovo X130e and that thing totally ruined any further purchases from them)
Overpriced and stupid. You can already get ~20 inch 1080p IPS panels with freesync for 100$ every day from amazon. Was this posted because it's TN which makes it magically faster?
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DanNeely - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
I'm confused. If this needs to be used with a PC, and being only 24" in size is something you'd want to use on your desk sitting a yard away not hanging from the wall with you sitting several times farther away on a couch; what exactly makes it "console" friendly?TheITS - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
Some people game in their bedroomsMakaveli - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
So this is mostly for College students living on residence then?Murloc - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
or the hordes of teen-agers whose parents don't want to give up their living room and TV.nathanddrews - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
I wouldn't get caught up in the marketing of "console" in the name, unless ASUS knows something we don't - that perhaps these AMD-powered consoles will get FreeSync over HDMI support (which would be a great idea).No, I think the only purpose this serves is to take an inexpensive FreeSync display and cross-promote its value to PC (DP) and console (2x HDMI) gamers at the same time.
Diji1 - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
You make it sound as though it isn't a normal thing for businesses to research the market before they design or market something.
nathanddrews - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
Sometimes their research is poor. I'm sure someone will buy this display based upon its "console" marketing, just not anyone visiting this site.Mikuni - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
Let TN die already..PseudoKnight - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
Cheaper and faster pixel response. Why shouldn't this be an option in the marketplace? Side-by-side, I prefer to game on my TN over my IPS.iMic - Monday, October 2, 2017 - link
Can you tell the model names of you TN and IPS monitor?mobutu - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
I agree, TN must die of an horrible death, so at least all the ignorants can't choose subpar tech on their devices ...BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
I don't care about color accuracy as long as something is vaguely close (blue looks sort of blue, red looks sort of red, etc). I don't care about viewing angles as long as I have a 30-ish degree cone so I can see what I'm doing. I couldn't care less about pixel response as long as the screen doesn't get smeary like an old passive matrix screen on a mid-90s era budget laptop did. The only thing I care about is getting a crappy ~15 inch screen with a 1366x768 or higher resolution, integrated speakers that has an HDMI, DP, DVI, and VGA connector for under $100 because spending money a lot of money on consumer electronics is dumb. For people like me TN is good enough and I'll happy keep buying it or whatever else happens to end up as the bottom feeder of display tech. Life's too short to care about screen technologies.Diji1 - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
You must be poor.BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
You must feel threatened.fanofanand - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
I almost always agree with you, but I can't go there with you on this. A 15" monitor? There are tablets bigger than that! 768p is pretty low for a monitor too. I can understand if you were ok with a TV that you sit ten feet away from having such low resolution, but when sitting close to a monitor (which is typical) that's just too low. I agree with TN being just fine for most purposes (other than professionals you don't NEED perfect color accuracy) but I'm not sure that saying every piece of tech over $100 is dumb. You seem to have jumped the shark a little bit on this one.BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
Those standards of mine really are just mine. I thought I made it pretty obvious I was talking about a personal preference in support of why TN panels still exist -- for people like me that don't really care about image quality because we have other things to worry about that are more significant.cwolf78 - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
Lack of standards more like it. You can buy a "budget" display without over-the-top trash specs like that. Why not go dumpster-diving or to a pawn shop if you're really that much of a cheap-ass?BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
You're lashing out too? Do you really suffer from so much buyer's remorse that you can't just feel secure in what you're doing with your own money in the privacy of your own home?mobutu - Thursday, April 6, 2017 - link
Many peope make the same mistake, thinking that "TN being just fine for most purposes (other than professionals you don't NEED perfect color accuracy)"Actually it's not about only color accuracy, it's mostly about if don't sit at a perfect and centered 90% angle from your tn screen then you're gonna suffer from horrid contrast + brightness +color shift. If you move from that perfect position then the image you'll see is absolutely horrenduous.
That's why TN should have died a long time ago
desolation0 - Monday, May 8, 2017 - link
Not everyone cares about everything. It is not necessary that they care about everything. It is not stupidity that they don't care about everything. The market addresses those people with less expensive products because paying for everything doesn't make sense to them. The technology is still around because it sells. It sells because people want it and are willing to accept the tradeoffs. Could we please quit denigrating people just because their personal tastes disagree with what we feel is necessary?meacupla - Thursday, April 6, 2017 - link
Asus' RoG, G-sync 144Hz gaming monitor impressed me, despite being a TN panel.Yes, the viewing angles are not that good, but the color reproduction was even better than cheap IPS/MVA panels. (and I am spoiled by Surface Pro 4's excellent screen)
What impressed me most, was the low input lag and excellent ghosting reduction, which helps a lot when playing faster paced games.
What seriously needs to go are bottom of the barrel TN panels, because some of them are simply unusable when they're used on laptops. I am talking about color inversion at arm's length, which is just stupid on a laptop. (It was a Lenovo X130e and that thing totally ruined any further purchases from them)
garbagedisposal - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
Overpriced and stupid. You can already get ~20 inch 1080p IPS panels with freesync for 100$ every day from amazon. Was this posted because it's TN which makes it magically faster?zodiacfml - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
Same thoughts here. I think there is a price premium once they attached the word "gaming" to their productsChaitanya - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
You are forgetting the tax on that crap for Asus Badge thats slapped on it.PseudoKnight - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
I did a general search on Amazon for "IPS freesync" and didn't get anywhere near $100. Cheapest was $165. Amazon search must suck.Holliday75 - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
I found a mistake. "ASUS stupid smart contrast ratio" with stupid crossed out. Get rid of the cross out on stupid and remove smart.DanNeely - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
That's deliberate commentary on the utterly beyond BS numbers ASUS's marketing dept is lying about.boozed - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 - link
Ooh, what's the awful looking FPS in the "serving suggestion" product shot there?MattMe - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
"ASUS stupid contrast ratio" :)docofkult - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
You have made a type in the inputs section. VG245Q does not have 2 DisplayPorts.euskalzabe - Wednesday, April 5, 2017 - link
LOL that Asus stupid contrast ratio made me laugh. Well done.