The use of a false FoV for Hololens demonstrations still irritates me. It's difficult enough explaining the current state of VR and AR optics without outright false public demonstrations muddying the water.
Personally, I prefer it to the alternative, which would be to show it from the perspective of the wearer, which would fail to capture what Hololens is doing with the rest of the room, Pi robots, physical accessories, etc. while you're looking only at one particular AR target. The main takeaway is that the only way to really know what any AR/VR headset is like is to actually use it.
Culling the external synthesised camera view to the view frustrum of the Hololens wearer would both show how the 'holograms' are embedded in the environment AND how much of them the wearer can actually see.
Wow, all 3 phones sound awesome. My primary issue is the same as always...will these start getting monthly security updates from *MICROSOFT*, not the phone company?
If so, I can tooooooooootally see replacing my mom's Surface 1 at some point with a Windows Phone...I mean she already uses a Windows Phone, but one of these you can plug in and actually use as a (presumably limited) PC! I wonder why they didn't upgrade the Surface 1 and 2 though to Windows 10 mobile or whatever...
Is their Insider program still going? If so, you can sign up, download the app and it side-steps the carriers as far as updates are concerned. That worked wonderfully to get my old 928 out from under the thumb of Verizon.
Get the Insider app and you can always get the latest updates directly from Microsoft, you can just wait for RTM release software and opt out during beta testing according to your choice.
Agreed the name sucks. Apple has owned to "BooK" branding for decades. At worst, this name will create confusion, and best that Microsoft is chasing the venerable (and due for a nice refresh RSN) MacBook Pro.
I like it fine. It's obviously a takeoff on the Macbook, and kind of explains what it is...except apparently it's also still a tablet, which is awesome.
Oh don't be ridiculous. You think Microsoft puts together a hardware package in less than a month based on what Apple did?
The same goes the other way --- when Apple releases hardware that matches what was shown by MS or Samsung or whatever three months ago, that is not Apple "copying" anyone --- it shows that these ideas happen to be in the air.; most likely because technology has hit the point where they are feasible and a low-level vendor has been showing off their capabilities to all the large companies.
If, as they seem to have said, this 13.5 inches 3:2 surface book is lighter than SP3 (when detached) and virtually on par with Ipad pro, this is just amazing.
Wow, I missed the weight. That's crazy. SP3 felt great in the hand, and this is larger and lighter?
Argh, so tempting. My two complaints remain-I want Marvel Unlimited as a Windows 'app' of some sort, and I want the screen to be able to get really dim for reading at night.
Other than that, the SP4 is perfect, and the Book maybe better still.
Whoa...so the Surface Book is a real tablet with attachable keyboard with an Nvidia GPU in the keyboard? At first I thought it was just a notebook, but wow is that more interesting. The Surface line as a whole and the Windows phones that can be used as a PC of sorts are WAY more interesting than anything Apple or Google are doing.
It's like some parallel universe where Microsoft is showcasing more drool worthy hardware than Apple or Google. Would have been nice if my 128GB Nexus 6P on order supported USB 3...
Microsoft has done a great job this time... what a pity however that they didn't go with USB 3.1, that would have been ideal to make these devices future proof... A 16GB RAM and 1TB PCIe SSD will last a while, especially with an I7 that is 2x faster that the fastest MBP 13... But a great device nonetheless this surface book...
The SP3 does have micro sd card support. It won't store apps there but sees it for anything else. Or are you referring to a general any size SD card reader?
I was referring to the full sized SD card, many of my cameras use full sized sd card and only software that I intend to use on the go is the Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop elements(apart from web browser for mails and other stuff). For these applications M$ Surface pro is a perfect sized device.
watching these announcement make sense and now all the SW design and HW equipments goes in the same direction. I just miss apps developers to add now new apps to have a store giving envy to come&serve yourself.
Gaming: The Surface Pro will be useless for most games. An m3 or m4 can't drive 2736 x 1824 at a decent fps. If you're happy with iOS games (I'm not), the iPad Pro will have a big advantage here.
Now the GPU in the Surface Book is another thing entirely. Here hoping.
"UPDATE: Just got official word from NVIDIA on the GPU, but unfortunately it doesn't tell us much.
The new GPU is a Maxwell based GPU with GDDR5 memory. It was designed to deliver the best performance in ultra-thin form factors such as the Surface Book keyboard dock. Given its unique implementation and design in the keyboard module, it cannot be compared to a traditional 900M series GPU. Contact Microsoft for performance information."
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tipoo - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
"That's we we call 'Console Class Graphics.'" Nice Apple burn there, Myerson.lilmoe - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
haha, true that.blackcrayon - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Guess they needed something considering they're bothering to tell us how many "visits" to their app store.Michael Bay - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
As if Apple didn`t pester everyone with those bullshit numbers before.edzieba - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
The use of a false FoV for Hololens demonstrations still irritates me. It's difficult enough explaining the current state of VR and AR optics without outright false public demonstrations muddying the water.nathanddrews - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Personally, I prefer it to the alternative, which would be to show it from the perspective of the wearer, which would fail to capture what Hololens is doing with the rest of the room, Pi robots, physical accessories, etc. while you're looking only at one particular AR target. The main takeaway is that the only way to really know what any AR/VR headset is like is to actually use it.edzieba - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Culling the external synthesised camera view to the view frustrum of the Hololens wearer would both show how the 'holograms' are embedded in the environment AND how much of them the wearer can actually see.Wolfpup - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Wow, all 3 phones sound awesome. My primary issue is the same as always...will these start getting monthly security updates from *MICROSOFT*, not the phone company?If so, I can tooooooooootally see replacing my mom's Surface 1 at some point with a Windows Phone...I mean she already uses a Windows Phone, but one of these you can plug in and actually use as a (presumably limited) PC! I wonder why they didn't upgrade the Surface 1 and 2 though to Windows 10 mobile or whatever...
nathanddrews - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
As long as I don't have to dress up like that douchey-looking guy, I'll gladly buy a 950XL.wperry - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Is their Insider program still going? If so, you can sign up, download the app and it side-steps the carriers as far as updates are concerned. That worked wonderfully to get my old 928 out from under the thumb of Verizon.BMNify - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Get the Insider app and you can always get the latest updates directly from Microsoft, you can just wait for RTM release software and opt out during beta testing according to your choice.kron123456789 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
If my calculations are right, display resolution of the New Surface should be about 2736x1824. Not bad.bleh0 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Surface Book? Come on Microsoft your teams could've come up with a better name then that....ugh.royalcrown - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
I said the same thing..ack !TEAMSWITCHER - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Agreed the name sucks. Apple has owned to "BooK" branding for decades. At worst, this name will create confusion, and best that Microsoft is chasing the venerable (and due for a nice refresh RSN) MacBook Pro.Wolfpup - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
I like it fine. It's obviously a takeoff on the Macbook, and kind of explains what it is...except apparently it's also still a tablet, which is awesome.simard57 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
payback for iPad Pro?name99 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Oh don't be ridiculous.You think Microsoft puts together a hardware package in less than a month based on what Apple did?
The same goes the other way --- when Apple releases hardware that matches what was shown by MS or Samsung or whatever three months ago, that is not Apple "copying" anyone --- it shows that these ideas happen to be in the air.; most likely because technology has hit the point where they are feasible and a low-level vendor has been showing off their capabilities to all the large companies.
at80eighty - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
it actually makes far more sense with the spine, versus the flat clamshell of other laptopssoliloquist - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
No mention of the battery life for SP4?!?!Don't really care that it is thinner. Nice that it is updated with Skylake (which was obvious). I just hope they improved battery life.
Ian Cutress - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
'Up to 9hrs' was the best we have seen from the press releasesroyalcrown - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
it's not even done yet..lol listening to closing now.digiguy - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
If, as they seem to have said, this 13.5 inches 3:2 surface book is lighter than SP3 (when detached) and virtually on par with Ipad pro, this is just amazing.Wolfpup - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Wow, I missed the weight. That's crazy. SP3 felt great in the hand, and this is larger and lighter?Argh, so tempting. My two complaints remain-I want Marvel Unlimited as a Windows 'app' of some sort, and I want the screen to be able to get really dim for reading at night.
Other than that, the SP4 is perfect, and the Book maybe better still.
at80eighty - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
just install f.lux for night time reading. takes off the blue wavelength; couple that with the dimmer and youre pretty comfyWolfpup - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Whoa...so the Surface Book is a real tablet with attachable keyboard with an Nvidia GPU in the keyboard? At first I thought it was just a notebook, but wow is that more interesting. The Surface line as a whole and the Windows phones that can be used as a PC of sorts are WAY more interesting than anything Apple or Google are doing.Bob Todd - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
It's like some parallel universe where Microsoft is showcasing more drool worthy hardware than Apple or Google. Would have been nice if my 128GB Nexus 6P on order supported USB 3...digiguy - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Microsoft has done a great job this time... what a pity however that they didn't go with USB 3.1, that would have been ideal to make these devices future proof... A 16GB RAM and 1TB PCIe SSD will last a while, especially with an I7 that is 2x faster that the fastest MBP 13... But a great device nonetheless this surface book...RazorBurnZ - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
That Lumia 950XL with Continuum is amazing.. I dont think any other phone has that feature..Chaitanya - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
I would have liked to see a SD card reader on the Surface Pro, that's one of the reasons why I keep avoiding spending money on Surface.JohnnyL53 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
The SP3 does have micro sd card support. It won't store apps there but sees it for anything else. Or are you referring to a general any size SD card reader?Chaitanya - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
I was referring to the full sized SD card, many of my cameras use full sized sd card and only software that I intend to use on the go is the Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop elements(apart from web browser for mails and other stuff). For these applications M$ Surface pro is a perfect sized device.limitedaccess - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Disappointing yet again on how much you need to pay to get >4GB of RAM on the Surface Pro.datb0yavi - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Windows 10 on Xbox One... But when Microsoft, when ?tipoo - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Interesting that the keyboard contains the GPU (and more batteries), so that future keyboards could upgrade the GPU without you tossing the Surface.mercucu1111 - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Copycat iPad Pro DOA.mdcsd - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
Lol. Gold.Michael Bay - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
Makes you wonder if they are honest retards or getting paid for this bullshit.LemmingOverlord - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
The images for the Surface Pro 4 innards has a Core i7, but that is not an option in the product customization on the MS website...LemmingOverlord - Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - link
scratch that...Sanssou6 - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
watching these announcement make sense and now all the SW design and HW equipments goes in the same direction. I just miss apps developers to add now new apps to have a store giving envy to come&serve yourself.denem - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
Gaming: The Surface Pro will be useless for most games. An m3 or m4 can't drive 2736 x 1824 at a decent fps. If you're happy with iOS games (I'm not), the iPad Pro will have a big advantage here.Now the GPU in the Surface Book is another thing entirely. Here hoping.
prophet001 - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
I was wondering if anyone knew when the Surface Book was going to be available in the 1TB version. I can only find the 512GB version for pre-order.theNiZer - Wednesday, October 7, 2015 - link
Word on the Nvidia GPU in the Surface Book:"UPDATE: Just got official word from NVIDIA on the GPU, but unfortunately it doesn't tell us much.
The new GPU is a Maxwell based GPU with GDDR5 memory. It was designed to deliver the best performance in ultra-thin form factors such as the Surface Book keyboard dock. Given its unique implementation and design in the keyboard module, it cannot be compared to a traditional 900M series GPU. Contact Microsoft for performance information."
from: http://www.pcper.com/news/Mobile/Microsoft-Surface...
microwerx - Thursday, October 8, 2015 - link
FWIW, the i7 CPU on the SP4 is the i7-6650U with 48 execution cores and 540 Iris Graphics...It's the only one that matches...http://ark.intel.com/compare/91497,88192,88972,889...
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