On the other hand, it has been this way since Windows XP and even Windows 95/98, so you could argue that for those that use the command prompt (I use it all the time), changing it might be confusing/irritating. One thing I really like about the Windows command prompt is that I can actually specify the window location rather than letting the OS determine where to place the window... I wish certain other apps/dialogs were better about remembering screen location.
I just tried it and it made the window totally cover up my double monitors with ONE BIG f ing CMD window lol Now how do I get it back to the other way? There is no bar to select the properties now.
Complaining about a single window that most users wont ever see, when OSX has only just got the ability to make windows/apps full screen??
Even now in 2011 that still dont even work properly! You can only have one window full screen, and if you have multiples monitors you cant even make anything full screen on any monitor but the first.
BTW hows that blu ray and USB3 support coming along?
Or maybe the ability to change the DPI without breaking the entire UI.
Or perhaps the ability to change the size of system fonts for menus without text running off the sides and overlapping.
Windows has it's problems with UI customizability, but I will take a hard to resize cmd window over the problems with trying to get OSX working with less than perfect vision.
fuck your stupid Sony BR shit, suck Sony dick yourself and I don't care about USB3 either (why would I, it's mostly useless now and this new intel lightpeak tech will suffocate it anyway, so why bother), I want UI done by smart humans, not by idiots, is that too much to ask you say?
Wait, have you accepted it can be done or not? Come on, just because it's not minimalist (still doesn't take more than a few mouse clicks) doesn't mean it's not proper. But then again trolls keep trolling.
Actually, it is resizable, as others have mentioned.
However, main reason why it's so hard... it's unix fault. Cmd.exe is application and thanks to our dear linux failures, we're still locked to 80x40 cml tools, because OMG SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO USE THEM WITH HARDWARE TERMINAL FROM 50ties AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE COMPATIBILITY!!!!one!!!!!eleven
yeah ok you got a point here, OS X always sucked dick in windows resize too, I know, but still this doesn't make MS cmd window resize less idiotic
the only explanation I gonna buy from that redmond fatso is that they forgot about cmd because they got their asses deep into that new fancy powershell shit. well that kinda explains why MS will never fix this
Actually, the joke would be on you. The old command shell is basically dead. Power users and sysadmins are supposed to step up to the plate and learn PowerShell. Anyone who has been to any events like MMS in recent years can tell you this is inevitable and it is a very big advancement.
This is cute and all, but what you've told us is properties of Windows Explorer (ie the UI).
Apple runs its file copying on top of a public API (which in turn does the work via a process called Locum). The point is that all the smarts of this process (which include things like copying at the highest speed possible, handling metadata properly, handling network devices appropriately, etc) are available to any app.
Does Windows offer the same? On the one hand, this seems an obvious thing to provide; on the other hand I'm constantly amazed at how insular the different groups at MS are, with something invented by Office, then re-invented by Explorer, then re-implemented in MFC, with no-one ever bothering to do the job RIGHT one time, and stick it in the base OS for everyone to use.
It would seem to me that file copy operations are getting to be more and more critical with people consolidating information into central systems at home and at the office. I wish MS would put more work into this space. I would love to see them rework the basic unerlying protocol to make it more efficient and faster for the user. I would think that there are tricks that their engineers could implement to make file copies fly...but maybe I'm wrong...
Does anyone still use Windows brain dead copy? I started using TeraCopy quite a while ago. It actually gives a good estimate of time to copy vs Windows random number generator. It is also faster. I am sure there are other copy programs out there.
One of the things that I would like in W8 is the ability to copy/paste everywhere. An example of this would be when Windows throws an error code. Instead of having to type it into google by hand it would be nice to be able to copy/paste it. There are several other places within Windows where MS breaks their own UI rules (like resizing certain windows - msconfig anyone?). It would be nice if they would follow their own d*mn rules.
why does the interface look like windows 7? microsoft upgrades a little on old OS and sells in higher price. i want different look and experience totally
Amazingly no comments on the actual subject at hand.... How about instead if these mostly unneeded enhancements we actually fix the issue that exists with the speed of copying files between windows systems.
When I DL a large file in, say, a web browser and it finally completes, it often triggers a file copy dialog as it copies the large file out of a temp folder and into the folder I specified. This dialog steals focus and has the "Cancel" button highlighted so it I was typing something all it needs is a press of the space key to cancel the dialog and simultaneously DELETE the large file from the temp directory. Because you only see the dialog for large files, it only affects the files that are going to be difficult to repalce (time for another LOOOOOONG download). I shouldn't be scared to use my PC just because something important is downloading but it has been this way since Windows 95.
I'm with fic2 on this - I've never seen that behavior either, and I download large (>5G) files fairly regularly. What browser are you using - maybe it's specific to that?
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Pirks - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
I bet the command prompt window in Windows 8 will still be the same ugly not-freely-resizable sick joke (can't resize width for some moronic reason)Nothing can fix MS UI weirdness and ugliness. Nothing.
JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Right-click, choose properties, go to "Layout", and set Width as you see fit. TADA! Thanks for trying, Pirks.EnzoFX - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
The fact that such solutions are so unintuitive also speaks towards his point.JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
On the other hand, it has been this way since Windows XP and even Windows 95/98, so you could argue that for those that use the command prompt (I use it all the time), changing it might be confusing/irritating. One thing I really like about the Windows command prompt is that I can actually specify the window location rather than letting the OS determine where to place the window... I wish certain other apps/dialogs were better about remembering screen location.piiman - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
I just tried it and it made the window totally cover up my double monitors with ONE BIG f ing CMD window lol Now how do I get it back to the other way? There is no bar to select the properties now.piiman - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
got it lol thanks for the tip I hated the size also and never knew you could do that.Pirks - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Or I can just drag the right or left hand side of the terminal window in any Unix or OS X. Thanks for failing Jarred.JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Saying someone fails isn't the same as them actually failing. But keep trying; some day you'll get there.Pirks - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
I'll get there the day MS implements proper command line window resizing, i.e. likely never :)))JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Are you trying to channel Sheen? Winning!GTVic - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
And I want WYSIWYG in DOS while they're working on that.B3an - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Complaining about a single window that most users wont ever see, when OSX has only just got the ability to make windows/apps full screen??Even now in 2011 that still dont even work properly! You can only have one window full screen, and if you have multiples monitors you cant even make anything full screen on any monitor but the first.
BTW hows that blu ray and USB3 support coming along?
Belegost - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Or maybe the ability to change the DPI without breaking the entire UI.Or perhaps the ability to change the size of system fonts for menus without text running off the sides and overlapping.
Windows has it's problems with UI customizability, but I will take a hard to resize cmd window over the problems with trying to get OSX working with less than perfect vision.
Pirks - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
fuck your stupid Sony BR shit, suck Sony dick yourself and I don't care about USB3 either (why would I, it's mostly useless now and this new intel lightpeak tech will suffocate it anyway, so why bother), I want UI done by smart humans, not by idiots, is that too much to ask you say?mesome - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
I'll take that bet! I bet you $50 I can resize the command prompt width in Windows 8 when it comes out.Pirks - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
I accept your bet. Ping me here on the DT forums when the Windows 8 is out. Deal?Dark Legion - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Wait, have you accepted it can be done or not? Come on, just because it's not minimalist (still doesn't take more than a few mouse clicks) doesn't mean it's not proper. But then again trolls keep trolling.Pirks - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
I accepted it can be done but not by MS :)))JoeTF - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Actually, it is resizable, as others have mentioned.However, main reason why it's so hard... it's unix fault. Cmd.exe is application and thanks to our dear linux failures, we're still locked to 80x40 cml tools, because OMG SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO USE THEM WITH HARDWARE TERMINAL FROM 50ties AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE COMPATIBILITY!!!!one!!!!!eleven
Pirks - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
hahahaaaaathe irony is...
IT'S 100% RESIZABLE ON UNIX AND OS X NOW!!!!
JUST DRAG THE DAMN MOUSE
GRAB THE WINDOW LEFT/RIGHT SIDE AND DRAG!
Everyone does it now, everyone but lousy MS coders
hahaha
Shining Arcanine - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Using Windows has had a negative effect on your world view. I suggest that you cease all use of Windows immediately.damianrobertjones - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Then don't use it.Both OSX and Windows have their issues.
You couldn;t damn well resize a standard window on osx (other than bottom right) until the latest 'service pack'.
B3an - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Exactly. The latest "patch" for OSX is adding lots of "features" that Windows 95 had.Pirks - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
yeah ok you got a point here, OS X always sucked dick in windows resize too, I know, but still this doesn't make MS cmd window resize less idioticthe only explanation I gonna buy from that redmond fatso is that they forgot about cmd because they got their asses deep into that new fancy powershell shit. well that kinda explains why MS will never fix this
Prana - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Actually, the joke would be on you. The old command shell is basically dead. Power users and sysadmins are supposed to step up to the plate and learn PowerShell. Anyone who has been to any events like MMS in recent years can tell you this is inevitable and it is a very big advancement.name99 - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
This is cute and all, but what you've told us is properties of Windows Explorer (ie the UI).Apple runs its file copying on top of a public API (which in turn does the work via a process called Locum). The point is that all the smarts of this process (which include things like copying at the highest speed possible, handling metadata properly, handling network devices appropriately, etc) are available to any app.
Does Windows offer the same? On the one hand, this seems an obvious thing to provide; on the other hand I'm constantly amazed at how insular the different groups at MS are, with something invented by Office, then re-invented by Explorer, then re-implemented in MFC, with no-one ever bothering to do the job RIGHT one time, and stick it in the base OS for everyone to use.
Cr0nJ0b - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
It would seem to me that file copy operations are getting to be more and more critical with people consolidating information into central systems at home and at the office. I wish MS would put more work into this space. I would love to see them rework the basic unerlying protocol to make it more efficient and faster for the user. I would think that there are tricks that their engineers could implement to make file copies fly...but maybe I'm wrong...fic2 - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Does anyone still use Windows brain dead copy? I started using TeraCopy quite a while ago. It actually gives a good estimate of time to copy vs Windows random number generator. It is also faster. I am sure there are other copy programs out there.One of the things that I would like in W8 is the ability to copy/paste everywhere. An example of this would be when Windows throws an error code. Instead of having to type it into google by hand it would be nice to be able to copy/paste it.
There are several other places within Windows where MS breaks their own UI rules (like resizing certain windows - msconfig anyone?). It would be nice if they would follow their own d*mn rules.
dhakamanila - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
why does the interface look like windows 7? microsoft upgrades a little on old OS and sells in higher price. i want different look and experience totallyimaheadcase - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Have you not looked at WIN8 screenshots online? The UI is changed a lot if you want it to.Its like win7, you can have themes or not. Depends on what you want.
Win8 has the same type of screen as Windows Phone UI. Its tiles (unless they changed that in last 6 months since I saw that).
B3an - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
NEWSFLASH: It's not complete yet.B3an - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
How come no one else has noticed that the UI in the second pic with the graphs is different??The close/minimize buttons are different. And the window has square corners, not the usual small rounded edges. It's cleaner.
Maiyr - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Amazingly no comments on the actual subject at hand.... How about instead if these mostly unneeded enhancements we actually fix the issue that exists with the speed of copying files between windows systems.Maiyr
Maiyr - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Well I see some had made the comments already... bravo. I couldnt make it past the pointless cmd prompt window resizing nonsense.Maiyr
CZroe - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
When I DL a large file in, say, a web browser and it finally completes, it often triggers a file copy dialog as it copies the large file out of a temp folder and into the folder I specified. This dialog steals focus and has the "Cancel" button highlighted so it I was typing something all it needs is a press of the space key to cancel the dialog and simultaneously DELETE the large file from the temp directory. Because you only see the dialog for large files, it only affects the files that are going to be difficult to repalce (time for another LOOOOOONG download). I shouldn't be scared to use my PC just because something important is downloading but it has been this way since Windows 95.fic2 - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
I pretty regularly download 1-2G files and I have never seen this. How big of files are you talking about?cjl - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
I'm with fic2 on this - I've never seen that behavior either, and I download large (>5G) files fairly regularly. What browser are you using - maybe it's specific to that?WesleyEley - Thursday, January 28, 2016 - link
Amazing piece of content, but What is the Catch?WesleyEley - Thursday, January 28, 2016 - link
Amazing piece of content, but What is the Catch?