Their point was that at 17” the resolution should be higher. But wait maybe the thing you care about is higher performance from the better thermals/power delivery of a large notebook. Oh the hardware is weak too. So then it’s just big and heavy with no added benefits. You could shrink the same laptop by 50% and get the same performance and display resolution.
1200p is not 1080p. There is no identical ZBook 17 G5 spec for this notebook, at least not in Germany. The highest G5 has a 6 core (Xeon or Core). The G6 has a Quadro RTX 5000 option on the Core CPU (no ECC and 6 core) or a Quadro 3000 option for the Xeon (8 core ECC). I didn't see any way to modify that on their website, but maybe that is just me not liking that site and being blind. The ZBooks are also 3.2kg vs 2.5kg of the Asus, which is important, seeing how you replied to someone who specifically stated the weight of devices. The RTX 5000 and 6 core Core CPU Zbook (1080p) also costs a bit more than the Asus RTX 5000 6 core Core CPU. So while shopping around is a good idea in general, it isn't nearly as clean cut as you make it out to be.
When use cases of the two machines overlap so heavily, I think we can, at one point, for the sake of conversation, simply say that one is better than the other. Comparing and contrasting every single spec item is tedious.
The US site also says i9, not Xeon, and that's 3.5TB less storage(it's either all SSD or a mix with an HDD), one touchscreen short, 16:9 main screen, and ~700g more dead weight for the same price. The only apparent upsides are a 16GB Optane of which I question the necessity as long as their SSD is decent, and a couple more ports. For the exact same price, model 8FP67UT#ABA.
To his "You could shrink the same laptop by 50% and get the same performance and display resolution" I said: "Find me a 1.25kg laptop running RTX5000 with 64GB RAM." To which you replied: "zBook 17 G6" which the official site states: "Starting at 3.2 kg" "41.6 x 28.8 x 3.3 cm" What's your problem? That obese ZBook, at least 28% heavier and 40% fatter is a cumbersome traditional workstation, exactly the type of product this Asus and Blade Studio Editions are made to replace.
You can't even see all the pixels on a 17" display from a decent distance. You need a 22" display on a laptop to make "full" use of all those pixels. 1440p would have been a great option but unfortunately no one makes 1440p displays for laptops
There is no need for the built in screen to have a higher resolution. It is difficult to look at, when icons and menus become to small. It uses more battery, and they have got a very good 17" color calibrated display included. Its ideal.
The trackpad may be OLED, but the screen is most definitely IPS, probably the same JDC panel used in the 17.3" MacBook.
They are the only OEM that makes a 17.3" WUXGA panel. Dell/Alienware and even MSI use this same panel.
Asus is probably going through some additional calibration\validation for Pantone certification but in my experience all of these panels are really amazing.
I agree with others, great machine and then 1080p? 17" 1080p at that?
All of my home workstations (3D Animation, Compositing etc) are at *minimum* 4K now, and one is a 5K for editing/compositing with 4k/8k. I do have an older 1440p in the corner, but I literally use 1080p for my raspberry pi's and watching youtube at this point.
Do you strap a microscope to your face when you use your 8K and 5K 17-inch screens? Or are you one of those who prefers to overpay for hyper-DPI, then runs everything at a 250% magnification factor?
The point of higher DPI is to render more detail, not more content. You are *supposed* to increase the scaling factor, which is why Windows will do it for you automatically.
1080p at 13" is adequate, if not great. At 17" it's not even adequate.
Yeah, the chassis is nice, if there's one matching the specs of the Blade 15 Studio Edition it'll probably be cheaper than that, then I'd choose this. The current tier is overkill for me.
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willis936 - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
You have to wonder if the name is apropros.timecop1818 - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
17" 1080p with Quadro? what an absolute waste.PeachNCream - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
Because it is no longer possible to connect a laptop to an external display.willis936 - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
Their point was that at 17” the resolution should be higher. But wait maybe the thing you care about is higher performance from the better thermals/power delivery of a large notebook. Oh the hardware is weak too. So then it’s just big and heavy with no added benefits. You could shrink the same laptop by 50% and get the same performance and display resolution.s.yu - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
Really? Find me a 1.25kg laptop running RTX5000 with 64GB RAM.Samus - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
zBook 17 G6. And insultingly to the Asus above, they're 4K.If you wanted something closer in spec to this from HP, the zBook G5 has identical specs and a 1080P screen....for almost half the price.
Asus is out of their God damn minds pricing this at $5000.
Death666Angel - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
1200p is not 1080p. There is no identical ZBook 17 G5 spec for this notebook, at least not in Germany. The highest G5 has a 6 core (Xeon or Core). The G6 has a Quadro RTX 5000 option on the Core CPU (no ECC and 6 core) or a Quadro 3000 option for the Xeon (8 core ECC). I didn't see any way to modify that on their website, but maybe that is just me not liking that site and being blind. The ZBooks are also 3.2kg vs 2.5kg of the Asus, which is important, seeing how you replied to someone who specifically stated the weight of devices. The RTX 5000 and 6 core Core CPU Zbook (1080p) also costs a bit more than the Asus RTX 5000 6 core Core CPU.So while shopping around is a good idea in general, it isn't nearly as clean cut as you make it out to be.
lazarpandar - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
When use cases of the two machines overlap so heavily, I think we can, at one point, for the sake of conversation, simply say that one is better than the other. Comparing and contrasting every single spec item is tedious.s.yu - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
The US site also says i9, not Xeon, and that's 3.5TB less storage(it's either all SSD or a mix with an HDD), one touchscreen short, 16:9 main screen, and ~700g more dead weight for the same price. The only apparent upsides are a 16GB Optane of which I question the necessity as long as their SSD is decent, and a couple more ports.For the exact same price, model 8FP67UT#ABA.
s.yu - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
To his "You could shrink the same laptop by 50% and get the same performance and display resolution"I said: "Find me a 1.25kg laptop running RTX5000 with 64GB RAM."
To which you replied: "zBook 17 G6"
which the official site states:
"Starting at 3.2 kg" "41.6 x 28.8 x 3.3 cm"
What's your problem? That obese ZBook, at least 28% heavier and 40% fatter is a cumbersome traditional workstation, exactly the type of product this Asus and Blade Studio Editions are made to replace.
boeush - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
Look again: it's not 1080p. It's 1920 x **1200**. A 16:10 aspect ratio display! Will wonders never cease??Too bad I just recently got me a new computer; this one's a very strong contender - at least on paper...
8lec - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
You can't even see all the pixels on a 17" display from a decent distance. You need a 22" display on a laptop to make "full" use of all those pixels.1440p would have been a great option but unfortunately no one makes 1440p displays for laptops
Alistair - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
Looks nice, but it should be at least 90hz.milkywayer - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
$5500 (if you pay taxes) and a 1080p~ screen. Artsy indeed.BGADK - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
There is no need for the built in screen to have a higher resolution. It is difficult to look at, when icons and menus become to small. It uses more battery, and they have got a very good 17" color calibrated display included. Its ideal.skavi - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
it's going to use a lot of battery anyways. It's an OLED.s.yu - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
Where did you get that? It's most likely IPS. Also IIRC it only covers most of P3 with very poor ARGB coverage.Shame.
Samus - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
The trackpad may be OLED, but the screen is most definitely IPS, probably the same JDC panel used in the 17.3" MacBook.They are the only OEM that makes a 17.3" WUXGA panel. Dell/Alienware and even MSI use this same panel.
Asus is probably going through some additional calibration\validation for Pantone certification but in my experience all of these panels are really amazing.
PixyMisa - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
You do realise you can adjust the size of icons, right? In fact, Windows does it automatically.Scalarscience - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
I agree with others, great machine and then 1080p? 17" 1080p at that?All of my home workstations (3D Animation, Compositing etc) are at *minimum* 4K now, and one is a 5K for editing/compositing with 4k/8k. I do have an older 1440p in the corner, but I literally use 1080p for my raspberry pi's and watching youtube at this point.
boeush - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
Do you strap a microscope to your face when you use your 8K and 5K 17-inch screens? Or are you one of those who prefers to overpay for hyper-DPI, then runs everything at a 250% magnification factor?PixyMisa - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
The point of higher DPI is to render more detail, not more content. You are *supposed* to increase the scaling factor, which is why Windows will do it for you automatically.1080p at 13" is adequate, if not great. At 17" it's not even adequate.
MamiyaOtaru - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
it's not 1080palittleteap0t - Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - link
The Xeon E-2276M should be 6C/12T instead of 8C/16T (what's listed in the box)yetanotherhuman - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
I love the small bottom bezel. Thank god, 16:10.s.yu - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
Yeah, the chassis is nice, if there's one matching the specs of the Blade 15 Studio Edition it'll probably be cheaper than that, then I'd choose this. The current tier is overkill for me.Bulat Ziganshin - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
there are some errors here compared to https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ProArt-StudioBook-Pro...cpu is hex-core
display is lcd with led backlight
Ro_Ja - Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - link
How can some people be blind? It's not 1080p, it's 1200p!! It's 16:10!