Damn I don't give a fuck about most of these things beeing an Android user, but the file system has me kind of hyped :D. Does this mean that if I get an iphone xr for example and update to ios13, I can finally just plug the phone to a pc and transfer music, pdf's, images, movies etc. onto my phone and just use them like a normal person would do? If they now switch to USB-C in their next iphones they actually got a great offer for people who can live without a headphone jack.
What you are asking is, basically “Will Apple do things the same way as in 1980s?” and the answer is no. Although a song, eg, is stored as a file, for most purposes Apple wants to treat it at a higher semantic level, as a SONG, not just a bag of bits. If you don’t like that, and feel strongly that you want to continue living in the 80s, the Apple ecosystem is not for you.
This is about enriching the file experience (where files are needed) not about treating everything as nothing more than a file.
lol is that supposed to be a jab? Yes, I like to have control over my files and manage them in a file system, if that's an "80's thing" or whatever for people to want, then I guess that is what I'm asking..
A song is nothing more than a file. That file contains embedded metadata. Hiding the fact that it is just a file doesn't remove the fact that it is just a file. iTunes even stores songs 'as just files' on the local filesystem of your Mac or PC.
..or live in a fantasy world that Apple thinks is the best even though they are so far behind only moms thing they are cool now. I don't think a single person i know under 40 has a iphone anymore. lol
That was snarky. I get it Apple is treating songs at a higher semantic but at the lower one they are still stored as BLOB's in Apples music database aka files. Assume people here know what they are talking about don't assume they want to return to the 1980's. People can own files we can't own higher semantics.
We have for the least 25 years been able to treat songs in the mp3 format as both simple files and and at the same time been dealing with them on the basis of their metadata. This addition to iOS is Apple admitting defeat the same way the new Mac Pro is Apple admitting defeat over their failed previous design.
You still can't access your music as files. The Files app still is a high-level document manager and doesn't allow browsing the real structure of the filesystem.
Also I'm wondering if people also treat their emails as files? I mean, it's just text files with metadata! No, almost all people use a specialized client for that kind of data, just as for music.
Were it not for the security concern, I'm sure nobody would mind having their mails stored in a Gmail folder on their device, regardless of the fact that it is easier to handle them inside the Gmail App because it's just an additional option. In reality of course there are good reasons to store mails in encrypted form, making it impractical to acces them through a file explorer.
Usage of music mp3's is very, very different than email. Its a false comparison. With email, though I do occasionally have a need to view an email as a file (yes, it does happen) its not typical. Typically I'm just looking at mail through a mail client and it doesn't much matter which one.
Not so with music. I listen to my music through a music app but that's where the comparison to email pretty much ends. I have a Windows PC, two Android devices (phone and tablet), an MP3 player, plus three different vehicles - all from different manufacturers and from different years (2013, 2014, and 2017). All three vehicals have either usb stick support or an SD card reader. They all handle playlists differently too. It's really, really handy to just dump the MP3 files from my PC to SD cards or usb sticks to plug into the cars or copy the files to my phone or tablet.
Why is a simple copy operation such a controversial feature. Its simple. Its easy. And it works.
Jesus, you are living in the dark ages man. What year is this? Mp3 player? People want to listen to music, not manage music files, that's why services like Spotify are so popular. mp3 player?
No, I'm very much in the 21st century. I want to be able to listen to music while at the gym and a very small device (not a lot bigger than a quarter). I don't want to carry a big honking phone around and don't want to risk breaking big (expensive) phone while using a weight machine. I don't want to have to mess with WiFi or have (yet another ) data plan to access "services". I want small. I want cheap. And I want easy. MP3 player = connect to my PC, spend about 30 seconds copying a few playlists over and from there, just push a button when I start my workout. The cloud is not the solution to everything and I'm sort of sick of people who have their own way of doing something and insist on ridiculing anyone that does it any other way.
Every time I see someone at the gym with this huge phone strapped to their arm it re-enforces for me why I don't want to do that.
Not really admitting defeat. From what they have said they didn't do it at first because of security concerns and with this update they moved device drivers to userspace so now it's being done in a more secure and reliable way.
Lol. I use both an iPhone (for work) and an Android. Adding a ringtone, changing a wallpaper, or taking some music with me on the iPhone is infinitely more cumbersome than it is on Android. Maybe "doing things like in the 1980" is not so bad after all.
I can assure you, we didn't transfer files over USB in the 1980s. We didn't transfer waveform audio files over much of anything, given the processing and storage limitations of the time. I mean, you can fit A 128-kbit MP3 onto a high-density floppy disk, but it doesn't make sense to use an entire floppy disk for one song when you have a compact cassette recorder.
So yeah, in the 80s we transferred music using mixtapes.
The point is that the idea of being able to see files and manually move or copy them where we want goes all the way back, even to the 1970s. Sure, technology has improved, but the concept is still there. Even in MacOS X, you can go to the finder to copy files, so iOS just catches up now?
Wow name 99, that is the largest load of crap I have ever heard for locking users out of their own file system and making it harder to transfer files from their own devices that they paid for. Access to directly save files is not a "1980's" thing. IT is a basic computing function that should have been there all along.
Oh that's cute. Despite what Apples tells you, it's still just file with bits, the same bits we all use. Doesn't matter how they arrange it, dress it up, or market it to sheep.
Apple hasn't really done any innovative since Jobs left (shh don't tell him). Well, I was impressed reading that they were going to offer a $1000 monitor stand to their loyal customers. That's highly innovative... pricing.
yeah... "Although a song, eg, is stored as a file, for most purposes Apple wants to treat it at a higher semantic " - Priceless... Clueless, but priceless...
I am afraid but it is you still living in the 80's, when common users were rightfully considered monkeys with cash and other software ecosystems were too complex (-nix) or garbage. I wanted to watch some series on a plane, so i moved files to the ipad before downloading vlc and I did not know they had to be placed in the player folder, which is a ridiculous, inefficient, not user oriented way to "sandbox" apps. This is the result of the oligarchic way they manage the app store and their ecosystem
Some people just don't realize that wired transfers are still faster than wireless, especially if you have multiple family members using your WiFi. I believe the answer to your question is Yes, you should be able to deal with files like almost every other OS does.
@damianrobertjones The truth of the matter is they BOTH suck.
NO one has ever been able to explain to me, why, in Android, the setting to turn off banner notification is under SOUND (banner notifications doesn't make a sound if your phone is on MUTE!).
Android is also known to be less secure and more prone to viruses, malware, etc. than iOS.
And Android also doesn't have native support for Asian languages (where you can handwrite Chinese characters, for example) out-of-the-box. WHYYY should I need to download an app for something that's literally BUILT into iOS devices (meaning I can access that functionality EVERYWHERE on iOS devices). I shouldn't have to download an app for multi-language, no Latin-based language support.
This is where Android completely and utterly fails for me.
(And yes, iOS devices are annoying that they can't just be recognised as a USB mass storage device.)
I copy my pictures off my iphone just by plugging it in. I can upload stuff to it without iTunes (because, iTunes on WIndows is a horrible POC) using an app called syncios. I use this to update the musicon my phone, and to upload books to my iPad.
Notifications is under notifications, not sure as to your argument, been so for years. Older versions had notifications under sound, and grouped all in one place.
You'll have to prove android to be less secure. Only thing is it allows third party apps, without that it would probably be more secure.
Android does have Asian support, needs to be loaded on by the manufacturer, same as Apple. And no, I don't want it by default, half the world doesn't use Asian languages and there's a lot of symbols wasting space there.
”…can finally just plug the phone to a pc and transfer music, pdf's, images, movies etc. onto my phone and just use them like a normal person would do?”
Haha, you think that's what ”normal” people do? What universe do you live in? ;) I'd say managing music on to their devices by file management what what people did during the nineties (eighties was a bit early).
Normal people use streaming services and use cloud services for file transfers. I'd say the more geeky way to deal with music files this day and age is by putting them onto a media server (such as Plex or Emby).
Unlike Microsoft, PKWARE and WinZip/Niko Mak Computing, Apple should be praised for not spreading triskaidekaphobia to its products and poisoning general public mindset with this overplayed superstition. Still, I would not be using iOS product any time soon.
What a joke, new features like a file system, a swipe keyboard and maps that are automatically inferior to Google maps. Wow, that is super cutting edge.
The file manager looks incredibly crude for anything then the most basic operations? E.g., how would it be managing 2 sets of multiple files with multiple variants in 2 different locations? I guess this is not something many people do often in home usage, but many also bring their work home.
It just does not look like it would be enough for ME.
It'll be interesting to see if the new maps is going to get the same level and speed of info updates compared to Google maps, more specifically, traffic updates.
System-wide dark mode: Big deal. It should be an essential feature for every modern device. Interesting not.
Advanced Photos Editing & Photo Arrangement: Advanced as Adobe Photoshop on PC or is it just a bunch of auto edits? Can I sort my own photos into separate folders instead of making shortcuts?
Privacy & Security: Do you mean we don’t have privacy & security on iOS 12 or we will receive more privacy and security with iOS 13? This can be just another way to slow down older iDevices. I’ve seen enough exploits on every iOS version which then be jailbroken. Apple is just patching some holes like they always do. Nothing’s new.
Memoji and Messages: Oh great. I just use simple text messages. Save the useless features for yourself.
Swipe Keyboard: Better late than never.
Performance - 2x App Launch Speed: As long as Apple won’t make older iDevices slower, we’ll be thankful.
Files - An Actual Filesystem??: “it’s a gigantic step for the usability of iOS.” LMAO. I thought they’ll never crawl out of their caves. But what surprises me is that Apple and their worshippers have been so proud of their iDevices which never have had an actual file system among other things.
iOS of course always had an "actual filesystem". It's just that there was (and still is) no direct access to it. Even now the Files app is a kind of high-level document manager that does NOT show you the actual filesystem. And that's a good thing because in iOS all files from all apps are in sandboxed directories, and the app's directories are not even named after the app but with a random string of characters created when you install the app (to avoid predictable paths for malware).
If you ever had seen the actual filesystem in iOS (with a jailbroken device) you'd know that you don't WANT to see that ever again. It's utterly useless for direct consumption. What the Files app shows you has nothing to do with the actual directory layout in the filesystem and this is a good thing.
Anyway, finally having access to both external drives and to SMB servers (yeah!) straight from the Files app makes a big difference. Just as mouse support (especially with support for external displays in the iPad Pro).
Predictable paths is a dumb argument, file inside are still the same, it was more to annoy actual people that were messing with it on JB devices than security.
No, it helps tremendously with preventing malicious code from just hitting the right file in a predictable path. And yes, every single security measure is dumb if viewed in isolation, but that's just because there is no silver bullet.
What I really want to know is if it will be possible to crop video. I know they have ffmpeg under the hood there. They just need to add the damn button.
Interestingly, I was at a group meeting with a tech company yesterday. While many of the investors had iPhone, there was not a single iPad (or even Mac) being used, the total opposite of what it was like a few years ago. No wonder they are trying to beef up the iPad's attractiveness for enterprise.
I don't think you've seen an Android tablet there either. iPP isn't productive enough but it's still vastly more functional than Android tablets and has its place, perhaps not for "pro" work though.
I see that the “I hate Apple no matter what” crowd is out in force. You guys forget that Android itself is a crude copy of iOS. It was originally supposed to be a crude copy of the Blackberry.
At this point, Apple and Google copy each other’s features, mostly because they have no choice. Most of the truly big things have been done by both. Now it’s a lot of taking a feature, and trying to do it better than the other guy. There’s nothing wrong with that. Google still takes plenty from Apple. It doesn’t matter.
By the way, iOS 13 also now supports mice, trackpads and trackballs in the “accessibility” section.
I see the "I hate Android" crowd is out in force too. Its so, so tiresome. Seems I can't go on a tech forum anywhere that doesn't rapidly devolve into an "I hate xxx..." flame ware. Apple people hate Android and Windows. Android people hate iOS but not Windows (mostly). Windows people hate Mac people but swing both ways on mobile devices. And Linux people hate everybody....even Android which kind of sort of is Linux...which Ill get flamed for for sure :)
In my book, most of it these days boils down to personal preference. Too many want to make a religious experience out of it.:)
I agree. And mostly the bashers tend to have a very limited insight into the thing they bash. I definitely see good and bad things in all of tech no matter the company. While I do see downsides with Apple stuff I overall enjoy using their plattforms more than the others I also use (Android, Windows and Linux), but that doesn't mean I think those two are bad or have no benefits when it comes to certain usage scenarios.
Apple seriously needs to focus on innovation. Turning the white theme to black is not an innovation. I am afraid that apple doesn't left behind like Nokia. Although the built quality of Apple is best but still its getting expensive. David https://www.discountcodez.co.uk
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Dexter101 - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
Damn I don't give a fuck about most of these things beeing an Android user, but the file system has me kind of hyped :D. Does this mean that if I get an iphone xr for example and update to ios13, I can finally just plug the phone to a pc and transfer music, pdf's, images, movies etc. onto my phone and just use them like a normal person would do? If they now switch to USB-C in their next iphones they actually got a great offer for people who can live without a headphone jack.name99 - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
What you are asking is, basically “Will Apple do things the same way as in 1980s?” and the answer is no. Although a song, eg, is stored as a file, for most purposes Apple wants to treat it at a higher semantic level, as a SONG, not just a bag of bits. If you don’t like that, and feel strongly that you want to continue living in the 80s, the Apple ecosystem is not for you.This is about enriching the file experience (where files are needed) not about treating everything as nothing more than a file.
Dexter101 - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
lol is that supposed to be a jab? Yes, I like to have control over my files and manage them in a file system, if that's an "80's thing" or whatever for people to want, then I guess that is what I'm asking..eek2121 - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
A song is nothing more than a file. That file contains embedded metadata. Hiding the fact that it is just a file doesn't remove the fact that it is just a file. iTunes even stores songs 'as just files' on the local filesystem of your Mac or PC.imaheadcase - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
..or live in a fantasy world that Apple thinks is the best even though they are so far behind only moms thing they are cool now. I don't think a single person i know under 40 has a iphone anymore. lolweb2dot0 - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
I guess you don’t have many friends?haukionkannel - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Most likely... I have many friends with iPhone. I personally don´t have. Cost too much to my taste, but it is very popular among my friends!FreckledTrout - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
That was snarky. I get it Apple is treating songs at a higher semantic but at the lower one they are still stored as BLOB's in Apples music database aka files. Assume people here know what they are talking about don't assume they want to return to the 1980's. People can own files we can't own higher semantics.Calista - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
We have for the least 25 years been able to treat songs in the mp3 format as both simple files and and at the same time been dealing with them on the basis of their metadata. This addition to iOS is Apple admitting defeat the same way the new Mac Pro is Apple admitting defeat over their failed previous design.uhuznaa - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
You still can't access your music as files. The Files app still is a high-level document manager and doesn't allow browsing the real structure of the filesystem.Also I'm wondering if people also treat their emails as files? I mean, it's just text files with metadata! No, almost all people use a specialized client for that kind of data, just as for music.
Dexter101 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Were it not for the security concern, I'm sure nobody would mind having their mails stored in a Gmail folder on their device, regardless of the fact that it is easier to handle them inside the Gmail App because it's just an additional option. In reality of course there are good reasons to store mails in encrypted form, making it impractical to acces them through a file explorer.Ratman6161 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Usage of music mp3's is very, very different than email. Its a false comparison. With email, though I do occasionally have a need to view an email as a file (yes, it does happen) its not typical. Typically I'm just looking at mail through a mail client and it doesn't much matter which one.Not so with music. I listen to my music through a music app but that's where the comparison to email pretty much ends. I have a Windows PC, two Android devices (phone and tablet), an MP3 player, plus three different vehicles - all from different manufacturers and from different years (2013, 2014, and 2017). All three vehicals have either usb stick support or an SD card reader. They all handle playlists differently too. It's really, really handy to just dump the MP3 files from my PC to SD cards or usb sticks to plug into the cars or copy the files to my phone or tablet.
Why is a simple copy operation such a controversial feature. Its simple. Its easy. And it works.
zsh - Sunday, June 9, 2019 - link
Jesus, you are living in the dark ages man. What year is this? Mp3 player? People want to listen to music, not manage music files, that's why services like Spotify are so popular. mp3 player?Ratman6161 - Friday, July 19, 2019 - link
No, I'm very much in the 21st century. I want to be able to listen to music while at the gym and a very small device (not a lot bigger than a quarter). I don't want to carry a big honking phone around and don't want to risk breaking big (expensive) phone while using a weight machine. I don't want to have to mess with WiFi or have (yet another ) data plan to access "services". I want small. I want cheap. And I want easy. MP3 player = connect to my PC, spend about 30 seconds copying a few playlists over and from there, just push a button when I start my workout. The cloud is not the solution to everything and I'm sort of sick of people who have their own way of doing something and insist on ridiculing anyone that does it any other way.Every time I see someone at the gym with this huge phone strapped to their arm it re-enforces for me why I don't want to do that.
zsh - Sunday, June 9, 2019 - link
Not really admitting defeat. From what they have said they didn't do it at first because of security concerns and with this update they moved device drivers to userspace so now it's being done in a more secure and reliable way.yankeeDDL - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Lol. I use both an iPhone (for work) and an Android. Adding a ringtone, changing a wallpaper, or taking some music with me on the iPhone is infinitely more cumbersome than it is on Android.Maybe "doing things like in the 1980" is not so bad after all.
zsh - Sunday, June 9, 2019 - link
You actually transfer music files to your phone to listen to them? :SLord of the Bored - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
I can assure you, we didn't transfer files over USB in the 1980s. We didn't transfer waveform audio files over much of anything, given the processing and storage limitations of the time.I mean, you can fit A 128-kbit MP3 onto a high-density floppy disk, but it doesn't make sense to use an entire floppy disk for one song when you have a compact cassette recorder.
So yeah, in the 80s we transferred music using mixtapes.
FreckledTrout - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
LOL mixtapes. Kind of miss those.Targon - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
The point is that the idea of being able to see files and manually move or copy them where we want goes all the way back, even to the 1970s. Sure, technology has improved, but the concept is still there. Even in MacOS X, you can go to the finder to copy files, so iOS just catches up now?goatfajitas - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Wow name 99, that is the largest load of crap I have ever heard for locking users out of their own file system and making it harder to transfer files from their own devices that they paid for. Access to directly save files is not a "1980's" thing. IT is a basic computing function that should have been there all along.Showtime - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Oh that's cute. Despite what Apples tells you, it's still just file with bits, the same bits we all use. Doesn't matter how they arrange it, dress it up, or market it to sheep.Apple hasn't really done any innovative since Jobs left (shh don't tell him). Well, I was impressed reading that they were going to offer a $1000 monitor stand to their loyal customers. That's highly innovative... pricing.
goatfajitas - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
yeah... "Although a song, eg, is stored as a file, for most purposes Apple wants to treat it at a higher semantic " - Priceless... Clueless, but priceless...Krause - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
That's the stupidest thing i've ever read.Raghavkumar - Thursday, June 6, 2019 - link
You will look stupid when Apple introduces that in Ios 14 or 15....umano - Sunday, June 9, 2019 - link
I am afraid but it is you still living in the 80's, when common users were rightfully considered monkeys with cash and other software ecosystems were too complex (-nix) or garbage.I wanted to watch some series on a plane, so i moved files to the ipad before downloading vlc and I did not know they had to be placed in the player folder, which is a ridiculous, inefficient, not user oriented way to "sandbox" apps. This is the result of the oligarchic way they manage the app store and their ecosystem
LordConrad - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
Some people just don't realize that wired transfers are still faster than wireless, especially if you have multiple family members using your WiFi. I believe the answer to your question is Yes, you should be able to deal with files like almost every other OS does.damianrobertjones - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
This is one of the reasons why I'm using an Android phone and not an iPhone.alpha754293 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
@damianrobertjonesThe truth of the matter is they BOTH suck.
NO one has ever been able to explain to me, why, in Android, the setting to turn off banner notification is under SOUND (banner notifications doesn't make a sound if your phone is on MUTE!).
Android is also known to be less secure and more prone to viruses, malware, etc. than iOS.
And Android also doesn't have native support for Asian languages (where you can handwrite Chinese characters, for example) out-of-the-box. WHYYY should I need to download an app for something that's literally BUILT into iOS devices (meaning I can access that functionality EVERYWHERE on iOS devices). I shouldn't have to download an app for multi-language, no Latin-based language support.
This is where Android completely and utterly fails for me.
(And yes, iOS devices are annoying that they can't just be recognised as a USB mass storage device.)
Like I said, they both suck.
rrinker - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
I copy my pictures off my iphone just by plugging it in. I can upload stuff to it without iTunes (because, iTunes on WIndows is a horrible POC) using an app called syncios. I use this to update the musicon my phone, and to upload books to my iPad.RSAUser - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Notifications is under notifications, not sure as to your argument, been so for years. Older versions had notifications under sound, and grouped all in one place.You'll have to prove android to be less secure. Only thing is it allows third party apps, without that it would probably be more secure.
Android does have Asian support, needs to be loaded on by the manufacturer, same as Apple. And no, I don't want it by default, half the world doesn't use Asian languages and there's a lot of symbols wasting space there.
Your comment sucks.
star-affinity - Sunday, June 9, 2019 - link
”…can finally just plug the phone to a pc and transfer music, pdf's, images, movies etc. onto my phone and just use them like a normal person would do?”Haha, you think that's what ”normal” people do? What universe do you live in? ;) I'd say managing music on to their devices by file management what what people did during the nineties (eighties was a bit early).
Normal people use streaming services and use cloud services for file transfers. I'd say the more geeky way to deal with music files this day and age is by putting them onto a media server (such as Plex or Emby).
quanta - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
Unlike Microsoft, PKWARE and WinZip/Niko Mak Computing, Apple should be praised for not spreading triskaidekaphobia to its products and poisoning general public mindset with this overplayed superstition. Still, I would not be using iOS product any time soon.taw6 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
What a joke, new features like a file system, a swipe keyboard and maps that are automatically inferior to Google maps. Wow, that is super cutting edge.Ippokratis - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
"The new app packaging also increases the application launch times by 2x" increases -> decreases.willis936 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Perhaps they're just admitting that Wirth's Law is overtaking Moore's Law.markiz - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
The file manager looks incredibly crude for anything then the most basic operations?E.g., how would it be managing 2 sets of multiple files with multiple variants in 2 different locations?
I guess this is not something many people do often in home usage, but many also bring their work home.
It just does not look like it would be enough for ME.
versesuvius - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Practically nothing, as usual. Kind of assuring the loyal base that there is nothing to worry about; it is still an Apple.alpha754293 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
It'll be interesting to see if the new maps is going to get the same level and speed of info updates compared to Google maps, more specifically, traffic updates.chavv - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Adding a dark theme is "Most interesting visual change for iOS 13" ?!WTF?!
sonny73n - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
System-wide dark mode: Big deal. It should be an essential feature for every modern device. Interesting not.Advanced Photos Editing & Photo Arrangement: Advanced as Adobe Photoshop on PC or is it just a bunch of auto edits? Can I sort my own photos into separate folders instead of making shortcuts?
Privacy & Security: Do you mean we don’t have privacy & security on iOS 12 or we will receive more privacy and security with iOS 13? This can be just another way to slow down older iDevices. I’ve seen enough exploits on every iOS version which then be jailbroken. Apple is just patching some holes like they always do. Nothing’s new.
Memoji and Messages: Oh great. I just use simple text messages. Save the useless features for yourself.
Swipe Keyboard: Better late than never.
Performance - 2x App Launch Speed: As long as Apple won’t make older iDevices slower, we’ll be thankful.
Files - An Actual Filesystem??: “it’s a gigantic step for the usability of iOS.” LMAO. I thought they’ll never crawl out of their caves. But what surprises me is that Apple and their worshippers have been so proud of their iDevices which never have had an actual file system among other things.
Enterprise: Another useless feature.
uhuznaa - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
iOS of course always had an "actual filesystem". It's just that there was (and still is) no direct access to it. Even now the Files app is a kind of high-level document manager that does NOT show you the actual filesystem. And that's a good thing because in iOS all files from all apps are in sandboxed directories, and the app's directories are not even named after the app but with a random string of characters created when you install the app (to avoid predictable paths for malware).If you ever had seen the actual filesystem in iOS (with a jailbroken device) you'd know that you don't WANT to see that ever again. It's utterly useless for direct consumption. What the Files app shows you has nothing to do with the actual directory layout in the filesystem and this is a good thing.
Anyway, finally having access to both external drives and to SMB servers (yeah!) straight from the Files app makes a big difference. Just as mouse support (especially with support for external displays in the iPad Pro).
RSAUser - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Predictable paths is a dumb argument, file inside are still the same, it was more to annoy actual people that were messing with it on JB devices than security.uhuznaa - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
No, it helps tremendously with preventing malicious code from just hitting the right file in a predictable path. And yes, every single security measure is dumb if viewed in isolation, but that's just because there is no silver bullet.willis936 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
What I really want to know is if it will be possible to crop video. I know they have ffmpeg under the hood there. They just need to add the damn button.Speedfriend - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Apple innovating as usual.....by bringing features Android has had for years...And is it just me or does that monochromatic effect shot look very unrealistic?
Speedfriend - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Interestingly, I was at a group meeting with a tech company yesterday. While many of the investors had iPhone, there was not a single iPad (or even Mac) being used, the total opposite of what it was like a few years ago. No wonder they are trying to beef up the iPad's attractiveness for enterprise.uhuznaa - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Yes, Apple being so stubborn in many things has harmed them a lot here. All of what they do now should have happened years ago already.s.yu - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
I don't think you've seen an Android tablet there either. iPP isn't productive enough but it's still vastly more functional than Android tablets and has its place, perhaps not for "pro" work though.zodiacfml - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Sounds like they're going iOS for a new Macbook Air, at least, next yearmelgross - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
I see that the “I hate Apple no matter what” crowd is out in force.You guys forget that Android itself is a crude copy of iOS. It was originally supposed to be a crude copy of the Blackberry.
At this point, Apple and Google copy each other’s features, mostly because they have no choice. Most of the truly big things have been done by both. Now it’s a lot of taking a feature, and trying to do it better than the other guy. There’s nothing wrong with that. Google still takes plenty from Apple. It doesn’t matter.
By the way, iOS 13 also now supports mice, trackpads and trackballs in the “accessibility” section.
Ratman6161 - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
I see the "I hate Android" crowd is out in force too. Its so, so tiresome. Seems I can't go on a tech forum anywhere that doesn't rapidly devolve into an "I hate xxx..." flame ware. Apple people hate Android and Windows. Android people hate iOS but not Windows (mostly). Windows people hate Mac people but swing both ways on mobile devices. And Linux people hate everybody....even Android which kind of sort of is Linux...which Ill get flamed for for sure :)In my book, most of it these days boils down to personal preference. Too many want to make a religious experience out of it.:)
star-affinity - Sunday, June 9, 2019 - link
I agree. And mostly the bashers tend to have a very limited insight into the thing they bash. I definitely see good and bad things in all of tech no matter the company. While I do see downsides with Apple stuff I overall enjoy using their plattforms more than the others I also use (Android, Windows and Linux), but that doesn't mean I think those two are bad or have no benefits when it comes to certain usage scenarios.obama gaming - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Why couldn't they introduce the File Explorer feature earlier?UtilityMax - Monday, June 17, 2019 - link
Typical Apple stubbornness, even when it's damn obvious when they're wrong (e.g. the one-button mouse)alpha754293 - Thursday, June 6, 2019 - link
You know that Anandtech has gone downhill when I am getting the news about the pricing of the new Mac Pro from CNBC.davishannon - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
Apple seriously needs to focus on innovation. Turning the white theme to black is not an innovation. I am afraid that apple doesn't left behind like Nokia. Although the built quality of Apple is best but still its getting expensive.David
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