That would require two completely different bridge chips, and thus probably also a built-in USB hub. It wouldn't be cheaper than buying two different enclosures.
That's exactly why I was interested in TB. I notice now I wasn't very clear, I meant "even" 1 NVMe SSD over USB is not attractive. I was basically interested in multiple NVMe SSD enclosure over TB.
unfortunately, these devices still don't allow software like Samsung's clone software to work as they don't show up as a Native Samsung SSD -- see the following from their tech folks.
--- Hi,
Thanks for asking! The Samsung Data Migration software will not recognize a Samsung SSD in the USBC-NVME enclosure as a Target Disk. While the Samsung Magician does recognize the NVMe SSD in the USBC-NVME enclosure’s model number, Serial number, and firmware in the System Information, limitations in the Samsung Data Migration software prevent cloning to the NVMe SSD in the enclosure.
I am sorry this will not work with the Samsung cloning software, please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Okay then: Samsung should engineer their own brand of external USB-C-NVMe enclosure that fully works with both their Samsung Magician & Samsung Data Migration softwares.
I have a different NVMe enclosure that won't allow me to clone because the device reports 4096 bytes per sector even though the SSD is actually 512 bytes per sector. Fortunately Macrium Reflect gave a decent message about this or it would have wasted even more of my time, but that made the enclosure useless for cloning to a new drive, which was why I bought it. You might want to test these enclosures for cloning, since I'm pretty sure quite a few of us would like to know if these work. I know I'd buy it if I knew it worked, but I don't feel like building a collection testing them all myself.
Windows reported 4096 Bytes/Sector for the drive in the enclosure, but 512 when I connected it to the motherboard M2 port. That makes the enclosure useless to me as you can only use the SSD in the enclosure if it is formatted in the enclosure. Can't use it to clone or to read the data off an SSD from a dead computer. Now that it has happened to me, I can find other people having the same issue if I search comments on selling sites, but every test site seems to just test speed with freshly formatted SSDs, and never tests to see if the SSD is still readable on motherboard connections. Who wants to format their SSD in an enclosure so the SSD is unreadable outside the enclosure without reformatting and losing the data on it?
Just loading a Win10 install image plus various drivers, the thing got really hot. I'd run it again on the 8GB, but my USB3 motherboard is in the shop for a warranty fix ~
I have a few m.2 ssd cases (nvme and sata) and it really bothers me this plug-in style. It's easy to assemble, but there is no good way of "sticking" the ssd to the case, as you would need a thermal pad that is sticky on one side (SSD) and slick on the other (so it can slide while maintaining contact with the case). I just use them without the case (as I bought them for temporary uses). For best thermals, a 2-piece case is required.
yes brand name ... As to cloning software not recognizing these , well give it time they are fairly new, and maybe samsung wont recognize until they bring their own version out. Macrium etc should be more universal
Still waiting for a TB3 enclosure with backwards compatibility with usb 3.1. That TEKQ Rapide would be perfect if it could also connect to a usb 3.1 host. You get the faster speeds of TB3 and the (near) universal compatibility of usb.
I have been using something similar to this for sometime now. I use an external Wavlink M.2 SATA SSD enclosure with USB-C 3.1 Gen.2 interface. I inserted a 500GB in it and I use it as a backup to my internal Windows 10+Apps environment on my Intel Hades Canyon NUC. In the event of a corrupted system environment, I can just boot from the external M.2 and continue to carry on where I left off. I don't do this every day maybe a couple times a week to have recent environment and just a slightly out-of-phase version of my internal system environment and apps. It might not be quite as fast as the internal M.2 NVMe, but fast enough to still be productive.
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vortexmak - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
Looking for an enclosure that does both, SATA and nVME interface SSD'sBilly Tallis - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
That would require two completely different bridge chips, and thus probably also a built-in USB hub. It wouldn't be cheaper than buying two different enclosures.close - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
Any such enclosure for multiple SSDs and/or TB interface? One NVMe SSD over USB3.1 isn't that attractive.ganeshts - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
If you want the device to be bus-powered, it is unlikely you are going to get multiple NVMe SSDs in a USB 3.1 Gen 2 enclosure.Btw, the TEKQ Rapide in the comparison above has a TB3 interface.
MajGenRelativity - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
Also, two NVMe SSDs over a single USB will be heavily bandwidth limitedclose - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
That's exactly why I was interested in TB. I notice now I wasn't very clear, I meant "even" 1 NVMe SSD over USB is not attractive. I was basically interested in multiple NVMe SSD enclosure over TB.tau168 - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
How about data encryption?leexgx - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
bitlocker or veracrypt (or linux way)GreenReaper - Monday, February 18, 2019 - link
The sensible Linux way being dm-crypt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-cryptcicorias - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
unfortunately, these devices still don't allow software like Samsung's clone software to work as they don't show up as a Native Samsung SSD -- see the following from their tech folks.---
Hi,
Thanks for asking! The Samsung Data Migration software will not recognize a Samsung SSD in the USBC-NVME enclosure as a Target Disk. While the Samsung Magician does recognize the NVMe SSD in the USBC-NVME enclosure’s model number, Serial number, and firmware in the System Information, limitations in the Samsung Data Migration software prevent cloning to the NVMe SSD in the enclosure.
I am sorry this will not work with the Samsung cloning software, please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Pat
vailr - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Okay then: Samsung should engineer their own brand of external USB-C-NVMe enclosure that fully works with both their Samsung Magician & Samsung Data Migration softwares.JKJK - Sunday, February 17, 2019 - link
That's why you buy easus partition master, or similar software.People are so cheap.
Bgillander - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
I have a different NVMe enclosure that won't allow me to clone because the device reports 4096 bytes per sector even though the SSD is actually 512 bytes per sector. Fortunately Macrium Reflect gave a decent message about this or it would have wasted even more of my time, but that made the enclosure useless for cloning to a new drive, which was why I bought it. You might want to test these enclosures for cloning, since I'm pretty sure quite a few of us would like to know if these work. I know I'd buy it if I knew it worked, but I don't feel like building a collection testing them all myself.leexgx - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
i thought ssds was using the adv4k format nowadaysBgillander - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Windows reported 4096 Bytes/Sector for the drive in the enclosure, but 512 when I connected it to the motherboard M2 port. That makes the enclosure useless to me as you can only use the SSD in the enclosure if it is formatted in the enclosure. Can't use it to clone or to read the data off an SSD from a dead computer. Now that it has happened to me, I can find other people having the same issue if I search comments on selling sites, but every test site seems to just test speed with freshly formatted SSDs, and never tests to see if the SSD is still readable on motherboard connections. Who wants to format their SSD in an enclosure so the SSD is unreadable outside the enclosure without reformatting and losing the data on it?Billy Tallis - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Many, if not most, NVMe SSDs support both 4k and 512B sectors, but everything defaults to 512B.e1jones - Thursday, February 14, 2019 - link
I have the MyDigital M2X with a 128 GB XPG SX6000in it... on the basic 1GB CrystalDisk test I got:Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 348.324 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 372.226 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 36.442 MB/s [ 8897.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 86.885 MB/s [ 21212.2 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) : 609.616 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) : 608.456 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 31.224 MB/s [ 7623.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 62.234 MB/s [ 15193.8 IOPS]
Just loading a Win10 install image plus various drivers, the thing got really hot. I'd run it again on the 8GB, but my USB3 motherboard is in the shop for a warranty fix ~
mathew7 - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
I have a few m.2 ssd cases (nvme and sata) and it really bothers me this plug-in style. It's easy to assemble, but there is no good way of "sticking" the ssd to the case, as you would need a thermal pad that is sticky on one side (SSD) and slick on the other (so it can slide while maintaining contact with the case). I just use them without the case (as I bought them for temporary uses).For best thermals, a 2-piece case is required.
dromoxen - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
pretty sure it should be "pluggable" , with 2 g ? Unless its a name or brand .....Amirite?dromoxen - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
yes brand name ...As to cloning software not recognizing these , well give it time they are fairly new, and maybe samsung wont recognize until they bring their own version out. Macrium etc should be more universal
namechamps - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Still waiting for a TB3 enclosure with backwards compatibility with usb 3.1. That TEKQ Rapide would be perfect if it could also connect to a usb 3.1 host. You get the faster speeds of TB3 and the (near) universal compatibility of usb.tokyojerry - Sunday, February 17, 2019 - link
I have been using something similar to this for sometime now. I use an external Wavlink M.2 SATA SSD enclosure with USB-C 3.1 Gen.2 interface. I inserted a 500GB in it and I use it as a backup to my internal Windows 10+Apps environment on my Intel Hades Canyon NUC. In the event of a corrupted system environment, I can just boot from the external M.2 and continue to carry on where I left off. I don't do this every day maybe a couple times a week to have recent environment and just a slightly out-of-phase version of my internal system environment and apps. It might not be quite as fast as the internal M.2 NVMe, but fast enough to still be productive.JKJK - Sunday, February 17, 2019 - link
I just ordered 4x of these. I've been waiting for a tool-less version.