Just a note of course-correction. Just when the ATI 9600SE's came out I needed a vidcard, and couldn't wait for the XT version to get HalfLife2 with it. I ended up rationalizing the SE version at $135 I think, and it came with Half Life 2 and was cheaper than the 9600Pro version. When I took my new card out of the box it had ATI 9600 Pro on the back of the card.
I felt it a fair bargain at $60+cheaper than the XT. Even looks better than the Matrox I upgraded from! ;-)
"I wouldnt exactly consider it a stellar card, i think the 5700 Ultra actually outperforms it. :)"
? The 5900 Non Ultra kills the 5700Ultra, they aren't in the same class. Take the scores of a 5900Ultra and knock off 10% and you have a 5900NU, if you factor in OCing I have yet to see a 5900NU that doesn't exceed 5900Ultra speeds. Even the 5900SE with the 2.8ns RAM bests the 5700Ultra at all settings all of the time, and the XFX board is one of the 2.2ns parts. In a lot of cases, the XFX 5900NU is close to twice the speed of the 5700Ultra. I'm not sure where you got the impression that the 5900NU was comparable to the mid level 9600/5700 class parts, but it most certainly isn't.
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DeadFish - Monday, December 1, 2003 - link
Just a note of course-correction. Just when the ATI 9600SE's came out I needed a vidcard, and couldn't wait for the XT version to get HalfLife2 with it. I ended up rationalizing the SE version at $135 I think, and it came with Half Life 2 and was cheaper than the 9600Pro version.When I took my new card out of the box it had
ATI 9600 Pro on the back of the card.
I felt it a fair bargain at $60+cheaper than the XT. Even looks better than the Matrox I upgraded from! ;-)
KristopherKubicki - Saturday, November 29, 2003 - link
Ben,I was originally misinformed as far as performance goes but I talked to Derek and Anand about it, and updated the article.
When I said I didnt consider it a steller card, I was more talking along the lines of XFX as opposed to the GPU.
Sorry for the confusion!
Cheers,
Kristopher
BenSkywalker - Thursday, November 27, 2003 - link
"I wouldnt exactly consider it a stellar card, i think the 5700 Ultra actually outperforms it. :)"? The 5900 Non Ultra kills the 5700Ultra, they aren't in the same class. Take the scores of a 5900Ultra and knock off 10% and you have a 5900NU, if you factor in OCing I have yet to see a 5900NU that doesn't exceed 5900Ultra speeds. Even the 5900SE with the 2.8ns RAM bests the 5700Ultra at all settings all of the time, and the XFX board is one of the 2.2ns parts. In a lot of cases, the XFX 5900NU is close to twice the speed of the 5700Ultra. I'm not sure where you got the impression that the 5900NU was comparable to the mid level 9600/5700 class parts, but it most certainly isn't.
KristopherKubicki - Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - link
Valir,Will do :) Ill have it added as soon as possible.
Kristopher
vailr - Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - link
Please include TwinMos DDR PC3700 & PC4000 memory, for comparison. Can be found: http://www.showtimecomputer.com/cpumem/ddr.aspor
http://www.memoryx.net/twinmos.html
KristopherKubicki - Monday, November 24, 2003 - link
Or you could have just asked me to add it instead of throwing accusations here and there?I added it. I wouldnt exactly consider it a stellar card, i think the 5700 Ultra actually outperforms it. :)
Cheers,
Kristopher
quikah - Monday, November 24, 2003 - link
opps, messed up that post. :)The XFX 5900 is $199 at Newegg. Seems odd that this card is not included in the list. Does it undercut some sponsors?