I really hope they announce something big like a Arm v8 core that is completely different from the Arm v7 Krait core. I'm tired of each update on the CPU side from them being just a bit of tweaking and higher clocks.
Well, when you have the huge percentage of the smartphone market (due to their LTE implementation, I'm sure) then you can get away with being "lazy" like this. Iteration like that helps keep costs down, too. Still, they're going to have to do something serious if they're going to stave off Intel. Bay Trail is looking sweeter and sweeter all the time.
Most definitely, hell, they could just re-release S800 for H1 2014 and still get all the wins but with Intel's LTE radio nearing completion, Qualcomm better gear up for some design losses in H2 or they better release something huge,.
Holy crap. At least Nvidia had the decency to -announce- a 64-bit CPU for the high-end for late 2014. Qualcomm didn't even do that!
Do you know what that means? As I expected, Qualcomm didn't prepare to even release a 64-bit in 2014. They must've expected Apple to release it in late 2014, and then they could just release the spring after that, because hey, the public is used to Apple doing things first, and waiting a few months to push it to others right?
But Apple totally caught them with their pants down, and was offering a 64-bit chip basically a -year and a half- before Qualcomm intended to make one. Unbelievable how ARROGANT Qaulcomm was about this, thinking they can squeeze a full 3 years out of Krait, when everyone else, even ARM itself, is on 2-year next-gen schedule.
Market dominance has certainly gotten to Qualcomm's head. Time to bring them down a notch, so they can learn some humility, and next time be more prepared against the competition. I hope they lose a lot of contracts this year and significant market share, because they definitely deserve it.
Yep, pretty clear Qualcomm got caught with their pants down on both the 64-bit CPU front (Apple, Nvidia) and the GPU front (Nvidia), but in the Android space their only saving grace is they are still the only option for 3rd party integrated LTE.
May be enough to buy them the year to get their 64-bit and GPU performance in order, or the Qualcomm bubble may burst in a year.
Being the only ones with integrated LTE would keep them going in the Smartphone area, but their lack of forethought could give them trouble in the tablet area where integrated LTE demand is much lower.
Why do I get the feeling that Qualcomm just got their pants blown off and they're running around trying to find some string to hold them up!
"next generation mobile processor built for the mobile industry in particular, not scaled down or cut down from a PC type of product, purpose built for mobile"
This quote doesn't mean a thing if u got nothing to show for it. The cadence of other competitors are starting to leave them behind. Nvidia just showed them what can be done with reasonable planning and Intel is creeping in... little by little.
"The speed at which the industry is moving is increasing"
Translation; Everybody else is moving faster than us at this time! We don't have anything too compelling to show at the moment. Come back soon, you hear...!
The mobile space is about to undergo an unprecedented shake-up, whether Qualcomm can keep up after being on top for so long without much real competition, we shall see.
I got literally zero new information from this (well, apart from "64-bit is coming"). Was this conference really completely useless or am I missing something?
This time qualcomm has nothing to offer, and it's no surprise they haven't prepared AArch64, must be pretty safe with contrasts huh?... 805 just can't compete with k1 for a fact, there's no OpenGL 4.4 support and Qualcomm has the worst OpenGL Es3 drivers, they're so bad that previous v45 revision is better than a current v53, qualcomm devs are really slow (in some cases not releasing a driver for 6 months). But their HR team is always aggressively reply back, like it was with MTK Octa and K1 benchmarks. Qualcomm have just about 5 months to release competitive solution.
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gunsman - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
qualcomm and asus events at the same time? unfair!madwolfa - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Running em in two windows now :D Verge and Anandtech.dylan522p - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I really hope they announce something big like a Arm v8 core that is completely different from the Arm v7 Krait core. I'm tired of each update on the CPU side from them being just a bit of tweaking and higher clocks.DeerSteak - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Well, when you have the huge percentage of the smartphone market (due to their LTE implementation, I'm sure) then you can get away with being "lazy" like this. Iteration like that helps keep costs down, too. Still, they're going to have to do something serious if they're going to stave off Intel. Bay Trail is looking sweeter and sweeter all the time.dylan522p - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Most definitely, hell, they could just re-release S800 for H1 2014 and still get all the wins but with Intel's LTE radio nearing completion, Qualcomm better gear up for some design losses in H2 or they better release something huge,.DeerSteak - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Hey is it going to be part announcement part Q&A?Brian Klug - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Refresh and it should go away, I'm not sure why some posts repeat sometimes, but not others. It was only posted once.-Brian
DeerSteak - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
It's OK, it just struck me as really funny. :)Krysto - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Holy crap. At least Nvidia had the decency to -announce- a 64-bit CPU for the high-end for late 2014. Qualcomm didn't even do that!Do you know what that means? As I expected, Qualcomm didn't prepare to even release a 64-bit in 2014. They must've expected Apple to release it in late 2014, and then they could just release the spring after that, because hey, the public is used to Apple doing things first, and waiting a few months to push it to others right?
But Apple totally caught them with their pants down, and was offering a 64-bit chip basically a -year and a half- before Qualcomm intended to make one. Unbelievable how ARROGANT Qaulcomm was about this, thinking they can squeeze a full 3 years out of Krait, when everyone else, even ARM itself, is on 2-year next-gen schedule.
Market dominance has certainly gotten to Qualcomm's head. Time to bring them down a notch, so they can learn some humility, and next time be more prepared against the competition. I hope they lose a lot of contracts this year and significant market share, because they definitely deserve it.
chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Yep, pretty clear Qualcomm got caught with their pants down on both the 64-bit CPU front (Apple, Nvidia) and the GPU front (Nvidia), but in the Android space their only saving grace is they are still the only option for 3rd party integrated LTE.May be enough to buy them the year to get their 64-bit and GPU performance in order, or the Qualcomm bubble may burst in a year.
DarkXale - Wednesday, January 8, 2014 - link
Being the only ones with integrated LTE would keep them going in the Smartphone area, but their lack of forethought could give them trouble in the tablet area where integrated LTE demand is much lower.Assuming NVIDIA manages to deliver...
Rayb - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Why do I get the feeling that Qualcomm just got their pants blown off and they're running around trying to find some string to hold them up!"next generation mobile processor built for the mobile industry in particular, not scaled down or cut down from a PC type of product, purpose built for mobile"
This quote doesn't mean a thing if u got nothing to show for it. The cadence of other competitors are starting to leave them behind. Nvidia just showed them what can be done with reasonable planning and Intel is creeping in... little by little.
"The speed at which the industry is moving is increasing"
Translation; Everybody else is moving faster than us at this time! We don't have anything too compelling to show at the moment. Come back soon, you hear...!
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The mobile space is about to undergo an unprecedented shake-up, whether Qualcomm can keep up after being on top for so long without much real competition, we shall see.
tipoo - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I wonder if Big Bird will make an appearance again.Shark321 - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
So they had a press conference for nothing? It's hard to believe.dishayu - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
I got literally zero new information from this (well, apart from "64-bit is coming"). Was this conference really completely useless or am I missing something?zxcvbad - Saturday, February 1, 2014 - link
This time qualcomm has nothing to offer, and it's no surprise they haven't prepared AArch64, must be pretty safe with contrasts huh?... 805 just can't compete with k1 for a fact, there's no OpenGL 4.4 support and Qualcomm has the worst OpenGL Es3 drivers, they're so bad that previous v45 revision is better than a current v53, qualcomm devs are really slow (in some cases not releasing a driver for 6 months). But their HR team is always aggressively reply back, like it was with MTK Octa and K1 benchmarks. Qualcomm have just about 5 months to release competitive solution.